Influences on Italian Prog
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Topic: Influences on Italian Prog
Posted By: Prog-jester
Subject: Influences on Italian Prog
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:26
Italian Symphonic Prog - the most original and unique music I ever heard  .I adore it
But... ... you can always hear a bit of Gentle Giant in PFM,a bit of ELP in Banco and A GREAT DEAL of Genesis in Locanda delle Fate 
But my vote goes to Crimson - IMHO,EVERY ItalProg band was influenced by their music |
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:30
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From all those many, many Italian bands I have heard, in my opinion ELP is the most pivotal band, perhaps Andrea C. will agree and I am sure Andrew will deliver another impressive and extensive list of bands .. ..!
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 04:50
Hi Erik! BTW Le Orme is much better to my ears than ELP.I found "L'Infinito" absolutely astonishing work |
erik neuteboom wrote:Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:08
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Hello Prog-jester! Le Orme has more passion, emotion, etc. in one song that ELP in their entire work but ELP sounds so techincally impressive, every time I hear those magnificent Moogs and Hammonds I got so exicited! By the way, Le Orme is my favorite Italian band, Felone E Sorona, Uomo Di Pezza, Contrapuntti and Collage are top notch Italian progrock albums |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 05:43
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Yeah, "felona e sorona" is my fav.
I think italian prog has been mostly influenced by KC, hence the big mellotron "layers" (i can't find the right word). This KC influence is blended with italian baroque style and sometimes quiet acoustic/pastoral mood (such as in "Celeste" for example.) |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 06:04
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I think that ELP is quite influential as well. Many Italian bands have an ear for complex, dissonant song structures, and I get the impression that there were a lot of ELP records being put on Italian turntables. I hear ELP influences in Le Orme, Il Paese Dei Balocchi, Banco, PFM, I Giganti... By the way, Van der Graaf was the most popular prog band in Italy in the early seventies. In what way were they influential. The passion? There's a lot of passion in Italian prog, but that can maybe be retraced to Italian opera. There are so many good Italian singers. I have the idea that they were all heavily drenched in Verdi, Puccini etc. when they were kids. |
Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 06:55
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Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot were the most influential albums on Italian prog in my opinion, so I vote Genesis. ------------- 
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 07:03
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I agree with you Erik on ELP's strongest influence. Also KC seem to have influenced a lot. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 07:54
and agree with you Andrea that ELP and King Crimson, from everything I read and heard, were the two biggest influences on Italian prog... though at this point I'm more the fanboy/cheerleader than an expert on it hahahhaha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 15:39
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ELP:
But even JETHRO TULL influenced many Italian prog bands ( OSANNA, QVL, UNO, CERVELLO, etc...), and GENESIS (ACQUA FRAGILE,etc...). |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 16:09
agreed... I thought the options were pretty good, the lack of Yes as an option showed an understanding that Yes really didn't have much impact in Italy, which is undertandable I guess since, if I remember correctly, they only toured Italy once in the 70's... and that was in early '71 ( two stops, shows in Milan and Rome) before they really hit the big time. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 17:10
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Sorry Erik, I didn't read your post. You already said what I said about ELP being the biggest influence. I should read better what other people say before I state my own opinion |
Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 17:16
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No problem, Moogtron III I have always wondered about the popularity and influence from VDGG, I am not up to their music but they were an acclaimed band in Italy! |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 19:38
In my opinion Cherry Five are more influenced by Yes than by ELP. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 19:46
ahhh.... I thought so too... but sort of reticent to correct people whose knowledge dwarfs my own hahahahhah. It was one reason I got it, was to hear the Yes influence and that Rickenbacker bass..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 08:00
Yes, but even ELP and THE NICE (thanks to fine keyboards passages played by Claudio Simonetti). |
Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 08:12
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Nursery crime (1971) Foxtrot (1972)....le Orme started in 1969....there's something wrong! I don't think there'a a direct influence but it was a global scenary where it's impossible to define a dirct and exclusive influence! ...anyway King Crimson had been one of the first prog examples...even if after Moody Blues and Beatles and The Nice and many many others... ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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