Ideal Length
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Topic: Ideal Length
Posted By: memowakeman
Subject: Ideal Length
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:08
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I know there are a lot of masterpieces , ones in the 30 - 40 minute lenght, others in the 60 - 70 .... but i think or at least for me there is one ideal lenght for an album , what do you think? ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
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Posted By: santiagomo87
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:19
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I think it depends on the kind of music. Genesis albums for example always leaves me wanting for more and there are some things that I just get tired listening ------------- Santiago |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:20
Ah you are talking about ALBUM lenght....riiiight  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:21
It`s not the lenght that matters.... 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:21
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yep ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Lindsay Lohan wrote:
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:27
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35-45 but it realy doesnt matter very much. ------------- 
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Posted By: Suki
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:31
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Why? it's not like you've got something to be proud of :) |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:36
Ah well i like em as long as they get  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:40
| I've gone for 51-60, as that's how long it takes me to get to work, so one album will last the whole journey. |
Posted By: Em1ty
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 13:56
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What makes a good album IMO is the quality of the songs! You can make an album with 20 min of crap and 40 min of good music but the album would be probably better if it had contain only the 40 min of goodness for the ears! |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 14:00
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i LOOOVE double concept albums...but too many times there are a bit of filler here and there but the best ones def are: The Human Equation-Ayreon Snow-Spocks Beard The lamb lies down on broadway(Some filler music but such a great story!)-Genesis!
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:23
I agree with you Em1ty. |
Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:35
Yes, it depends of the music, if an album its very very good, you are not going to want that it finishes. Of course the double CD's concept albums are great, but they are good concept albums in one CD (SFAM for example). ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:44
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I dont think the length matters, for instance 2112 is less than 40 minutes yet is brilliant but DT's SFAM is twice as long and is also brilliant. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:47
Well lenght does not matters but if you could choose you would rather have 80 mins of great music than 40 mins of great music  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:53
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^well obviously but we cant always get that, unfortunatly. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:53
Ooh er missus! |
Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:56
Only if the 80 min are much better than te 40 min one (The Lamb vs A Trick of the Tail). -------------
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 15:59
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I just loove the lamb although there are some filler tracks i simply skip em...there is still atleast 70 mins of really great music and the whole disc 1 is perfect! Genesis always had quite long vinyls! But i think some of gentle giants vinyls are a bit too short ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Fjuffe/?chartstyle=sideRed - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/sideRed/recenttracks/Fjuffe.gif - |
Posted By: WillieThePimp
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 20:08
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31-40 minutes usually works for me. It really can go either way though,
as Lindsay has been saying, double concept albums can be incredible,
but if it is just one piece I prefer to finish it in 31-40
minutes.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 21:16
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I was raised with the LP format which usually didn't exceed 45 minutes (I taped so many in 90 minutes cassttes for my first car back in the 80's , two albums per cassette even when a few times I had to fade the volume manually So I was used to that, but normally don't care about the lenght. What I don't like are bonus tracks, in most cases sound artificial and obviously are out of their natural context. Leave masterpieces as they were originally recorded.!!! Iván ------------- 
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).Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 21:21
that's interesting Ivan.... I think the bonus tracks can be really interesting and an insight into the creative processes. Look at Tormato and it's bonus tracks.... there are two or three songs that were done during those sessions that really are as good or better than nearly anything on that yet for some reason weren't put on the album (though one ended up on Drama) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 22:31
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Ideal length? 21 - 30 minutes... certainly no more than 40! Any more than that, and you risk serious chafing
Silly, obsessive, list-making progholes!
BTW: I used to like "singles" too -- now I can't afford them. Guess I'm in it for the long-play....
------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
, but now I see that it's for grownups....
, and the wife calling a halt to the proceedings (at least until the sober light of dawn)! 
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 23:01
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I don't deny some songs may be good, but an album reached the status of masterpiece with a determined number of songs in a determined order, all this songs create an atmosphere or a concept. Anything added can change that, if the artist did it one way originally, I believe it should be kept like that. Bsnus tracks are great for box sets or for bad albums (Tormato is one of the worst Yes albums) in the first case we pay for those rare recordings, in the second case, bonus tracks can only make better a bad album, and if they make it worst...who cares, it was bad anyway. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Karn Evil 9
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 23:11
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I would like it if bands now would make albums just short of 80 minutes, since thats how much cds hold. I love getting an album with 70+ minutes of good music because in some cases, its twice what you get on most albums. and I like bonus tracks sometimes, but in many cases, the songs were left off the origional album for a reason. ------------- Watch out where the huskies go,dont you eat that yellow snow |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 23:14
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Since most my cd collection is made up of classic prog and classic rock with a adequate amount of modern rock and modern prog, i am used to listenng to albums that are about 40 minutes to 60 minutes in length.
However, i enjoy live albums that run the full 80 minutes on cd and double live albums. Also, double studio albums TFK's Unfold the Future, are good. Studio albums that are one cd that run the whole 80 minutes, like Zappa's You Are What You Is, are pretentious and overdone most of the time, |
Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 23:50
| For an album, I wish the classic ones were using a format at the time that would have allowed more than 40 minutes of music per LP. It'd be nice if they were all 60-70 minutes. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 00:38
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I see that the 40 - 50 minutes option is the most voted (along with doesn't matter), seems that all the old farts raised with the limited LP format are voting. Despite being an old fart also, I voted for doesn't matter, the artist should decide the lenght, but keeping always the lenght and tracks of the original release. Iván
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 01:28
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It really doesn't matter. Quality is the most important aspect. Classics were generally in the 30-50 minute range because of the format limitations, and that works for me; it's great music, and it doesn't take up too much time. Roine Stolt and Neal Morse are great examples of long material outputs. Neal has put out at least one 60+ minute album every year since 1999, and Roine at least one 60+ minute album every year since 1994, and for the most part, it's quality material, though some is awfully time consuming and difficult to get through in one sitting. I'm kind of ranting a bit, but the point is, I'm happy either way, as long as it's quality. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 03:28
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It DOES matter.I'm tired with silly 70-min albums filled with stupid tracks which might be archived for a bonus releases.I'd throw away few tracks from every DT's 70-min album.
Why overload someone?I think, 35-60 min is ideal lenght. I voted 51-60,to be honest
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