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Topic: rhythm section´s
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: rhythm section´s
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 16:36

Im sure there are waaaaaaay more, but from I know and have heard this are the best...or some of them!

I will choose the Levin - Bruford combination...Discipline is pure rhythm...awesome!!!

Second) Wetton - Bruford, yes again Bruford and KC, but they were the most kick as rhtythm section back in the days...and Red shows how good they worked together!

Third) Squire - Bruford...I know I am a Bruford sucker...can´t help it...the man is just what I like behind the drumms...and along with Squire they gave Yes a lot of..."swing"...

What about you???



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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 16:47
Howlett/Moerlen for me. just as you are a sucker for Bruford I am a sucker for Moerlen


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Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 16:54
I'm a sucker for Lee/Peart as well.

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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:01
Mine is Squire/White , but I'll have to choose Squire/Brufford since White is not on the list.

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Posted By: Rising Force
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:06
I'd take Butler/Ward and Harris/McBrain over any  of these people.


Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:10
 Bruford/Wetton, thoguh I hear very little swing in Yes.


Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:15

Portnoy/Myung out of those...

Although Portnoy/Levin is even better!



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:34
Hardly a surprise that I go with my personal drum God (see my signature pic). Howlett/Moerlen.

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Posted By: Mharo
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:34
Squire-Bruford for me, my favourite bass player, my favourite drummer, and a great team.
Close contenders:
Hammond-Hammond/Barlow
Shulman/Weathers
Lake/Palmer


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 18:43
Close one this between Myung/Portney and Rutherford/Collins. I went with the former (just).

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 18:52
Originally posted by Mharo Mharo wrote:

Squire-Bruford for me, my favourite bass player, my favourite drummer, and a great team.



ditto with 2nd place for me being Janik Top and Christian Vander.


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 18:59
Myung/ Potnoy..

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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 19:08
Mike Portnoy says he follows Petrucci´s guitar, his exact words! When I listen on headphones I can hardly hear John Myung. I go for Lee and Peart.Clap


Posted By: amprog91
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 19:56
Jaco Pastorius and Alex Acuna!!


Posted By: Hollow Man
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 20:05
Definately Lee-Peart... After 30 years together, nobody can lock in like those two.

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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 20:18
Bruford/Levin was definitely KC's strongest rhythm section. Powerful, solid, and also very innovative.

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Posted By: Emiaj
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 20:33
^^^ Jaco and Alex Acuña?..I'd like to listen to that jazz rythmic section..a master on the bass and a great drummer..where can I get it?


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 02:39
Lee - Peart (way out in front!)


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 02:45

Squire-Bruford. Quite a strong list.

Squire-White is also very good, although White is not here.

 



Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 03:19
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Portnoy/Myung out of those...

Although Portnoy/Levin is even better!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 03:32

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Hardly a surprise that I go with my personal drum God (see my signature pic). Howlett/Moerlen.

ditto



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 05:56
Lee - Peart

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 06:01

Originally posted by Dr Know Dr Know wrote:

Mike Portnoy says he follows Petrucci´s guitar, his exact words! When I listen on headphones I can hardly hear John Myung. I go for Lee and Peart.Clap

I never understand why people say they cant here Myung, I have no trouble on all but a few songs and I have cheap, rubbish speakers/headphones.



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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 06:37
I've gone for Squire & Bruford, (of course!!) but actually I might have gone for Squire/White if the choice was there, I think their work on Relayer was great!


Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:31
  1. LEE - PEART
  2. MYUNG - PORTNOY
  3. SQUIRE - BRUFORD
  4. LAKE - PALMER
  5. SINCLAIR - PYLE
  6. RUTHERFORD - COLLINS
  7. CLARKE - BROWN
  8. CLARKE - WHITE
  9. LAIRD - COBHAM
  10. PASTORIUS - ERSKINE


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:33
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Squire-Bruford. Quite a strong list.

Squire-White is also very good, although White is not here.

Exactly what I think.



Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 15:48
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Dr Know Dr Know wrote:

Mike Portnoy says he follows Petrucci´s guitar, his exact words! When I listen on headphones I can hardly hear John Myung. I go for Lee and Peart.Clap

I never understand why people say they cant here Myung, I have no trouble on all but a few songs and I have cheap, rubbish speakers/headphones.

I can barely hear Myung at all on OCTAVARIUM.  Which is weird because, IMO, the sound of TRAIN OF THOUGHT is a lot dirtier than OCTAVARIUM, yet I can hear Myung more clearly.



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Posted By: adamw
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 16:25
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Im sure there are waaaaaaay more, but from I know and have heard this are the best...or some of them!

I will choose the Levin - Bruford combination...Discipline is pure rhythm...awesome!!!

Second) Wetton - Bruford, yes again Bruford and KC, but they were the most kick as rhtythm section back in the days...and Red shows how good they worked together!

Third) Squire - Bruford...I know I am a Bruford sucker...can´t help it...the man is just what I like behind the drumms...and along with Squire they gave Yes a lot of..."swing"...

What about you???

just almost the same, exchange no. 1 wiht 2 only. Althought I like Levin - Brudford more in THRAK times (with Gunn-Mastelotto as opposition), where they really showed what a good rhytm section can. Now, as I think about it, your poll lacks this choice (levin, brudford, mastelotto, gunn), but I'd choose Brudford - Wetten again though.
Brudford is the best drummer of all times for me... He is the one, who made me give attention to drumming. Before drumming was only like background to the real musical content to me. But till hearing Red only, where he with Wetten showed what a rhytm was made for and how can it play a very important role in music.
And Wetton with his sometimes very slowly and almost lyrical and sometimes stormy and glorious but always great and powerful basslines is one of the bassist out there (or was ;) ).

As to the third pair of mine, I just like Squire's complicated but "catchy" basslines along with Brudfords drumming to which I wrote enought above.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 16:59
Lee-Peart (I've always been a crazy Rush fan )

2nd is prob. Squire-Bruford, but Squire-White was awesome on Ritual and Sound Chaser (among others).


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 17:05

Lee/Peart

And to name a great one not mentioned:

Carey/Chancellor(Tool)



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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 18:24

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Mharo Mharo wrote:

Squire-Bruford for me, my favourite bass player, my favourite drummer, and a great team.



ditto with 2nd place for me being Janik Top and Christian Vander.

Vander/Top is first for me. The rhythm section by which all others should be measured...

Some good choices despite this omission - I went with Bruford/Levin, with Bruford/Wetton and Hopper/Wyatt close behind.

I'd also nominate

  • Czukay/Liebezeit (Can)
  • Herve Peron/Diemaier (Faust)
  • Greaves/Cutler (Henry Cow)
  • Smith/Ledden (Guapo)

And representing non prog, Entwistle/Moon.



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 18:37
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Mharo Mharo wrote:

Squire-Bruford for me, my favourite bass player, my favourite drummer, and a great team.



ditto with 2nd place for me being Janik Top and Christian Vander.

Vander/Top is first for me. The rhythm section by which all others should be measured...

Some good choices despite this omission - I went with Bruford/Levin, with Bruford/Wetton and Hopper/Wyatt close behind.

I'd also nominate

  • Czukay/Liebezeit (Can)
  • Herve Peron/Diemaier (Faust)
  • Greaves/Cutler (Henry Cow)
  • Smith/Ledden (Guapo)

And representing non prog, Entwistle/Moon.


Vander/Top should indeed have been on the list; I'd place them 2nd after Moerlen/Howlett. And why is there no German rhythm section on the list? Hattler/Fride (Kraan) or Hattler/Neumeier (Guru Guru, Highdelberg) are excellent rhythm sections too. The same is true for Hartwig/Setz (Roman Bunka Band) or Hartwig/Neumeier (Guru Guru).


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Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:14

Lee - Peart, of course.

They are all really great tho.

Why aren't Waters-Mason on the list?



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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 22:55
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Mharo Mharo wrote:

Squire-Bruford for me, my favourite bass player, my favourite drummer, and a great team.



ditto with 2nd place for me being Janik Top and Christian Vander.

Vander/Top is first for me. The rhythm section by which all others should be measured...

Some good choices despite this omission - I went with Bruford/Levin, with Bruford/Wetton and Hopper/Wyatt close behind.

I'd also nominate

  • Czukay/Liebezeit (Can)
  • Herve Peron/Diemaier (Faust)
  • Greaves/Cutler (Henry Cow)
  • Smith/Ledden (Guapo)

And representing non prog, Entwistle/Moon.


Vander/Top should indeed have been on the list; I'd place them 2nd after Moerlen/Howlett. And why is there no German rhythm section on the list? Hattler/Fride (Kraan) or Hattler/Neumeier (Guru Guru, Highdelberg) are excellent rhythm sections too. The same is true for Hartwig/Setz (Roman Bunka Band) or Hartwig/Neumeier (Guru Guru).

The reason there are no german rhythm sections is simply because I have never heard this bands...give me some time, and when I have heard them I will re-do this poll!

 



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Posted By: Mharo
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 23:00
Originally posted by Mongo Mongo wrote:

Why aren't Waters-Mason on the list?



Because even Gilmour-Mason would rank better.


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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 23:56

lee/peart

lake/palmer

squire/bruford

and for non prog entwistle/moon and jones/bonham



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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 23:59
Originally posted by Mharo Mharo wrote:

Originally posted by Mongo Mongo wrote:

Why aren't Waters-Mason on the list?



Because even Gilmour-Mason would rank better.

 hey mason isnt bad he is just minimalist and i think his drumming is very effective for pink floyd as well as roger's bass playing even though i feel he could do better if he applied himself more. 



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 00:18

Most of my favorites are not here:

Uriah Heep

  • Gary Thain
  • Lee Kerslake

The Who

  • John Entwistle
  • Keith Moon

OSIBISA (A very complex one)

  • Roy Bedeau (Bass)
  • Sol Amarfio (Drums)
  • Spartacus R (Percussion)
  • Teddy Osei (African Drums)

Peter Gabriel

  • Tony Levin
  • Manu Katche

Yes

  • Chris Squire
  • Bill Bruford

Iván



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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 04:41
Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Dr Know Dr Know wrote:

Mike Portnoy says he follows Petrucci´s guitar, his exact words! When I listen on headphones I can hardly hear John Myung. I go for Lee and Peart.Clap

I never understand why people say they cant here Myung, I have no trouble on all but a few songs and I have cheap, rubbish speakers/headphones.

I can barely hear Myung at all on OCTAVARIUM.  Which is weird because, IMO, the sound of TRAIN OF THOUGHT is a lot dirtier than OCTAVARIUM, yet I can hear Myung more clearly.

OK, I have re-listened to Octavarium (first time in ages) and your right you can bearly hear him on this album, I'd forgoten this, but he is as clear as you would expect a bassist to be on the other albums. 



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 06:45
I can't help noticing the wrong (and strangely fashionable) usage of the apostrophe in the name of the thread. It is a plural "s" and not a genitive "s", hence it should be "rhythm sections".

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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 07:09

Ruth Underwood & Chester Thompson & Tom Fowler



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 07:24
Oh, if we have a whole army:
Francis Moze (bass), Pierre Moerlen (drums and percussion), Mino Cinelu (percussion) and Mireille Bauer (percussion) of Gong.
Freddy Setz (drums) and Lutz Oldemeyer (drums) and Helmut Meier-Limberg (percussion) and Matz Steinke (bass) of Aera.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 08:02

Fritz Hauser and Marco Cerletti repectively drummer and bassist of Swiss band Circus

Awesome pair!!!!



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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 09:59
Another nomination...how about Sean Malone & Sean Reinert?  Those guys are sick.


Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 10:46
Peart Lee. They change their sound from album to album and they always remain incredible.


Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:55
Lee - Peart (Rush)


Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 19:57

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Another nomination...how about Sean Malone & Sean Reinert?  Those guys are sick.

Are those the Cynic guys?



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Posted By: jesperz
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 12:22
I'll go for Lee-Peart!

Even though i am a gigantic huge DT fan, Mike portnoy fan, but I prefer Lee-Peart's style. They sound so tight that I am very very impressed...

For Portnoy and Myung, well, I would say Portnoy is more of a Melodic Drummer, meaning following the song rather than more of the rhythm... Therefore, I didn't cast a vote for Myung and Portnoy. They dun sounds rhythmic enough for me..

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 12:25
Originally posted by sbrushfan sbrushfan wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Another nomination...how about Sean Malone & Sean Reinert?  Those guys are sick.

Are those the Cynic guys?

Yes,and they are a great rhythm section.

They also worked together in Aghora.



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 21:05
Dr Know wrote:
Mike Portnoy says he follows Petrucci´s guitar, his exact words! When I listen on headphones I can hardly hear John Myung. I go for Lee and Peart.Clap

Thart would explain many things and why some people don't like their music despite they are so talented.

If the rhythm section doesn't work almost as one man, the band doesn't work. I can't believe Portnoy said that.

Iván



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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 01:56
It's really dificult to pick just one, i went with Högberg - Olsson  just 'cause they didn't have a vote, but Squire-Bruford, and Reingold - Csörsz i like them equally


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 03:41

1. Lee - Peart

2. Squire - Bruford

3. Wetton - Bruford

4. Lake - Giles

However, I'd add Sinclair-Coughlan (Caravan) to this list.



Posted By: Paleviper
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 03:53
Definately Squire and Bruford

I have always enjoyed Chris Squires bass and for me this periood was when Yes were at their most awsome


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Posted By: Gary the Ghoul
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 12:19
Geddy Lee and Neil Peart
that's a dynamic duo



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