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Topic: Overrated Music Icons
Posted By: Dr Know
Subject: Overrated Music Icons
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 13:53

OK, Express your views, thats what polls are for!!

Who is the most overrated here?

For me it has to be Kurt Cobain. Second would be Hendrix. Crucify meSmile




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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 15:51
how about the entirety of the Rolling Stones?

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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 15:59
The Rolling Stones played in Rio last night for an audience of over a million people. They are indeed live and kickin´, but I agree they are very overratedWink


Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 17:42
Kurt Cobain.  Nirvana suck.  Hendrix is extremely overrated too, but his music is much better than Nirvana.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 03:17

Bolan and his T.Rex thing

I have enough respect for his early folk period (mostly the Steven Took- partnership albums) than for his over-rated and over-emphasized press exposure glam rock



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 05:20
Anyone who says Hendrix is overrated does not understand his importance in the development of rock music. Playing electric guitar is more than just running the fingers up and down the neck of the gutar. Hendrix was the first really "electric" guitar player; his predecessors had more or less played their electric guitars like acoustic ones.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 06:32
I voted Kurt, a talentless muppet who couldnt sing, write or play guitar.

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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 06:41
The only person from the list whom I think is really over-rated is Kurt Cobain, not only was he limited in his talent but his "reputation" was only really cemented when he joined "the stupid club".


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:20

Kurt Cobain. He certainly had a talent for writing songs, and no doubt he was a voice of a generation, but people who get legendary because they destroy themselves... I have a problem with that.

The same goes for Jim Morrison by the way. Maybe even more so than with Kurt Cobain. The Doors were very talented, and the voice of a generation, but Jim Morrison is my least favourite Door. I can't stand it when people destroy themselves...



Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:30
Kurt Cobain. About dead men we'd rather say something good or  nothing. I'd rather say nothing.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 08:03

Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

how about the entirety of the Rolling Stones?

I guess because they're not dead (although in Keith Richards case that's debatable).



Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 08:39

Hi BaldfriedeSmile

I understand your statement about Hendrix and he did revolutionize guitar playing. I just get tired of people always saying he was the best and will always be the best.

PeaceWink



Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 11:20

Jim Morrison for me - as much as I like the Doors, his lyrics were mostly trite and he wasn't anything that special as a singer either.

Kurt Cobain has been ridiculously over praised since his death, but Nirvana's albums still pack a real punch.

 



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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 11:37

 No doubt that Kurt Cobain is ridiculosly overrated, in minor terms john lennon is overrated, i know you'll kill me for saying this



Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 14:30

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Anyone who says Hendrix is overrated does not understand his importance in the development of rock music. Playing electric guitar is more than just running the fingers up and down the neck of the gutar. Hendrix was the first really "electric" guitar player; his predecessors had more or less played their electric guitars like acoustic ones.

What about Jeff Beck?



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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 21:06
Cobain.I never really saw anything special in Nirvana.Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were way better.

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Posted By: Emiaj
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 21:52
Cobain, Morrison..ah..and Lou Reed


Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 22:06
None of them. They all brought something new into music.

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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 00:05

id have to say cobain out of hte list but i dont think he is that overratted.  I think the Rolling Stones are the most overratted band on the planet.  I still like them but i just cant stand how over hyped they are. 



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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 09:30

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Cobain.I never really saw anything special in Nirvana.Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were way better.

yes , yes , yes  



Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 09:31

from the list is Cobain

but generally it must be the R.Stones



Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 11:36
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

from the list is Cobain


but generally it must be the R.Stones



I Agree! Cobain was a ______ & yes the stones have never done that much in my opinion!! Boring!
    

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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 16:36

Originally posted by Emiaj Emiaj wrote:

Cobain, Morrison..ah..and Lou Reed

 

LOU REED??!!? NO!

bolan too, neither are overrated. cobain is. u2 is extremely overrated, same with coldplay.

 

i even think radiohead's pretty overrated.



Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 16:43
The Rolling Stones, I dont know why they're not on the list, they are very overrated IMO.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 16:45

Who voted for (against) Zappa???



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 17:23
Cobain. I hardly like anybody at all on that list except Zappa and John Lennon. Both, however, made their fair share of pointless music IMO.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 18:16

Cobain. I f**king hate his guts

Everyone else on that list is respectable, except Bolan and Vaughan whom I don't know.



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Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 00:27
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Who voted for (against) Zappa???



And why Zappa is in the list??


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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 01:48
elvis
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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 16:10

Elvis. Although he did create the whole rock and roll image and rise up against censorship, his music is not that great.

As for all the Nirvana and Cobain bashing:
I think Kurt Cobain is not overrated at all. He made music that certain people could relate to, while others just listened to it for the angry, heavy, grungy, rock out aspect of it, and could not relate to it. He just made a bad mistake of killing himself. I don't have a problem with that; he was in emotional pain and wanted to die, so why shouldn't someone be allowed to die that wants to?

I think you're all just saying Cobain because you don't like his music.

Oh, and by the way, I'm a Nirvana fan. And it isn't just teenage angt rock for punks.



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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 22:11
Originally posted by Peace Frog Peace Frog wrote:

Elvis. Although he did create the whole rock and roll image and rise up against censorship, his music is not that great.

The fact that nobody asks: "What Elvis do you mean?" proves the opposite.



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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 23 2006 at 11:20
Originally posted by Viajero Astral Viajero Astral wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Who voted for (against) Zappa???



And why Zappa is in the list??

Yeah!! Why Is He On The List?



Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: February 24 2006 at 03:39

Jimi Hendrix.

Although like other people here, I'm not a fan of Kurt Cobain either.



Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 09:46
Johnny Cash. On this list, Kurt.

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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 10:27
Sting.
On this list, Janis Joplin.


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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:33
Every one of them is overrated.... but voted for Lennon to give Cobain a break
 
perhaps Joplin is the least overrated of these.. although basically she just screams
 
 EDIT: Oh.. sorry... forgot about Zappa... why is he here BTW?


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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:35
Elvis, very much so
The only one who comes close is cobain


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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:41
Nirvana may have been overrated as a whole, but Kurt wrote some suprisingly tricky, intricate piano pieces to songs that stand alone better than the whole songWink

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:56
I don't care enough for Cobain or Nirvana to vote for him, so from this list...Hendrix, a great PERFORMER but neither the best or a good songwritter IMO.
 
I believe Fripp should be in this list, he's not the God people talk about, not even a semi god.
 
Iván


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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:01
I'll have to say Kurt Cobain. He was pretty cool, ya gotta admit, but he really didn't do enough to earn all the praise he has.

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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:03
Fripp is no god... but he's very good nonetheless... If that's the case many many great great great musicians should be here because they're considered "Gods".... I think Fripp could be at the same level as Howe in electric guitar technique, or even superior (that's a dangerous statement, so don't take it as if I'm underrating Howe in any way)... then again he's no John McLaughing or even John Petrucci

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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:06
From the List, Lennon. 
 
His solo output remains uninspired and marred by too many commercial concessions. 


Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:14
Bob Dylan is perhaps a bit overrated... good but overrated..
 
 I also find Clapton a bit overrated.... now I know I'm going to get bashed for this... but although he is very good many say he's the guitar man..... just a very good blues player... but he did sell out a bit


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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 17:02
They're all human, so I guess they're all overrated.


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 17:06
Cobain was suck a hack. Only in the realm of MTV music could mumbling over a power chord and then committing suicide cement your reputation as a musical god. Dead
 
Oh I forgot I voted against Cobain earlier in this thread. At least I'm consistent. Smile


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Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 17:43
I think from the list it is a tie between Cobain and Elvis. I can't stand any of Elvis' music, so I voted for him. Also, the Rolling Stones are ridiculously overrated.

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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: November 27 2006 at 17:48
Originally posted by yesfan88 yesfan88 wrote:

I think from the list it is a tie between Cobain and Elvis. I can't stand any of Elvis' music, so I voted for him. Also, the Rolling Stones are ridiculously overrated.

    

Without Elvis, rock and roll would have never caught on. He was the guy that could sing like a black man but he was white (sad, I know, but this was the only way to tap into the huge, relatively wealthy white market). Elvis was not the first rock star, nor the most talented, but he is also, tied with Chuck Berry, the most important man in early rock and roll.

I don't care for his music, but he is certainly not overrated. His value for rock is very underappreciated, actually. He's just know as "Elvis, superstar," and not "Elvis, important rock icon."

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Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:43
Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

how about the entirety of the Rolling Stones?
 
Thank you.  I hear they sold their souls to the devil to become famous.  It has to be true.  But, since they were not one of the Choices, of course I has to go with Kurt cobain.


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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 05:27
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

They're all human, so I guess they're all overrated.

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