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Topic: Jethro Tull
Posted By: Panoramic
Subject: Jethro Tull
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 15:34

Hey guys...and girls?

I am new here and relatively new to prog. I was curious about Jethro Tull. I had bought Thick As a Brick and I thought it was fantastic. Now at one time I had owned Aqualung and Warchild and wasn't overly impressed. It was many years ago, however, and perhaps my feelings would be different these days. Also I had a compilation and while all the songs were good I do not want to go that route this time.

I was wondering if you could point me at one or two others that may be on the same level as TAAB or if you feel that was their one swansong please let me know. Also, please do not give me a shopping list of their albums...just 1 or 2 suggestions would be great.

I appreciate any assistance you can give me.

Thanks

Pan




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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 15:38
Wow, You didn't care for Aqualung? Along with TAAB, I've always felt that was JT's best. I understand about War Child, but it's still not a bad album. Songs from the Woods is pretty good.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 15:39
Songs From The Wood & Heavy Horses - if you don't get into these albums, there really is no hope......

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Posted By: Panoramic
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 15:46

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Wow, You didn't care for Aqualung? Along with TAAB, I've always felt that was JT's best. I understand about War Child, but it's still not a bad album. Songs from the Woods is pretty good.

Aqualung as I remembered was the better of the two and I thought it was okay, but I just think it paled in comparison to TAAB...it was about 20 years ago since hearing it. Maybe I should give it another try.



Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 16:15
The "problem" is that Tull only made two actual,proper prog albums. "Thick As A Brick" and "A Passion Play". Most of the others are also very good but I don't think they can be called prog,even Ian Anderson himself says that Tull's prog period really only incorporated the two aformentioned albums and that was it as far as Tull as a prog band was concerned. Anderson says Tull was a prog band for "a little while",and who are we to argue with the great man himself? As for the rest of them,"Minstrel In The Gallery" is rather proggy so if you're looking for something not a million miles away from "Thick..." you could check that one,Panoramic.

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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 16:29
Originally posted by Panoramic Panoramic wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Wow, You didn't care for Aqualung? Along with TAAB, I've always felt that was JT's best. I understand about War Child, but it's still not a bad album. Songs from the Woods is pretty good.

Aqualung as I remembered was the better of the two and I thought it was okay, but I just think it paled in comparison to TAAB...it was about 20 years ago since hearing it. Maybe I should give it another try.

By all means, listen again, and again... and then some more...



Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 17:04
I think Songs for the Wood had Gentle Giant light written all over it.


Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 17:32
Aqualung is my personal favorite, go back and check that one out again.  As everyone else has said, A Passion Play is their other real prog album, but it's also probably the least accessible album they've ever recorded, so don't give up on it if it doesn't click right away.  Minstrel In the Gallery is also very worthwhile.


Posted By: Carlos
Date Posted: October 22 2004 at 18:12

THE 4 GREATEST WORK FROM THE TULL ARE:

-THICK AS A BRICK

-MINSTREL IN THE GALLERY

-SONGS FROM THE WOOD

-STAND UP

AQUALUNG AS I RECALL I RATED IT WITH 4 STARS, IT DIDN'T REALLY IMPRESSED ME AT ALL, BUT IT'S A GREAT ALBUM. JT IS A BAND THAT DINDN'T CONSIDER THEMSELVES AS A PROG BAND, TOUGH THIER WORK IS GOOD AND PROG ENOUGH TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS WEBSITE... I WOULD RECOMMEND THIER WHOLE 70'S WORK, SOME OF THE 80'S ALBUMS ARE SOMEWHAT WORTWHILE TOO... FOR INSTANCE "A", "BROADSWORD..." AND "CREST OF A KNAVE", AND MAYBE I CAN SHARE THE SAME FEELINGS PANORAMIC ABOUT THE BUYING OF COMPILATION ALBUMS, THEY'RE A GOOD STRATEGY TO GET NEW LISTENERS, BUT SINCE I BOUGHT THOSE ALBUMS AND I COULD GET LITTLE BY LITTLE THE WHOLE COLLECTIONS, COMPILATION HAVE BECOME A CERTAIN UNDESIRABLE BURDEN ON MY SHELVES...BUT I HAD TO ADMIT THAT THANKS TO THESE COLLECTION I LEARNED TO APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE JT CAREER, BUT THE OTHER PROG BANDS



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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 06:40

I agree Garion - it's clear in SFTW that touring with GG had rubbed off on them a bit! I'd say many of Tull's albums had a prog feel to them, mostly because I take an open-minded view of what constitutes prog. For me it's not making 20+ minute songs, concept albums or anything like that, it's simply SOUNDING DIFFERENT TO ANYONE ELSE. Tull always did that. Personal recommendations:

A Passion Play - Takes a few listens but it's well worth it

Minstrel In The Gallery - Great arrangements; strings + rock group never complimented each other so perfectly

Songs From The Wood - Subtley and complex but awfully catchy songs. Very polished.

Heavy Horses - SFTW's rustic cousin. Much more than just "folk rock".



Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 07:07

I don't agree AT ALL with you

I'm amazed with the albums you quote!

here's my selection:

-This was (1968)(first and very bluesy)

-Stand up (1969)(wonderful guitar/wha wha solos)

-Aqualung (1971)(the acoustic pieces are simply sublime):"Won'd ring aloud", "up to me", "cheap day return", "mother goose"

-Thick as brick(1972) (the most prog)

HERE ARE tHE VERY BEST, MOST INSPIRED!!!!!!!!!!

AFTER, IT'S VERY DISAPOINTING and PAINTFULL

(excepting "a passion play" and "benefit", both average)

 

 



Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 11:05
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Songs From The Wood & Heavy Horses - if you don't get into these albums, there really is no hope......
Jim, one of my favourite Tull albums is Heavy Horses. Wow! how much more prog can you get! Great cover. Say hi to Tarkus and the rest of the zoo!


Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 12:47

I love "Heavy Horses" but you can certainly get a lot more prog than that!



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 13:37

My favourite was always Thick as a Brick, closely follwed by 'Songs from the Wood' and 'Heavy Horses'

I'm going to be contraversial here and say I wasn't that keen on Aqualung either  and actually prefered 'Broadsword & the Beast' (1982)  There are some rather weak tracks on there, but it has 'Clasp' and 'Pussywillow' which I think are among some of the best Tull songs.



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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 14:35
I also prefer "Broadsword..." to "Aqualung" and I thought I was the only one. Good to see that there is at least one more weirdo like me,Blacksword!

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Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 14:40
hey, the only jethro tull album i hjave is thick as a brick. i really dont like the other ones really.. i guess i just dont like folk proggresive... but taab is dspecil in the folk prog. i dont know why


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 23 2004 at 23:10

Originally posted by Pixel Pirate Pixel Pirate wrote:

I also prefer "Broadsword..." to "Aqualung" and I thought I was the only one. Good to see that there is at least one more weirdo like me,Blacksword!

Thats good to know Pixel

 



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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: October 24 2004 at 04:38
Originally posted by Panoramic Panoramic wrote:

Hey guys...and girls?

I am new here and relatively new to prog. I was curious about Jethro Tull. I had bought Thick As a Brick and I thought it was fantastic. Now at one time I had owned Aqualung and Warchild and wasn't overly impressed. It was many years ago, however, and perhaps my feelings would be different these days. Also I had a compilation and while all the songs were good I do not want to go that route this time.

Relatively new to prog-but a history of buying prog records.

Sounds a little gay to me!Wink



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: October 24 2004 at 22:45

you should try

Minstrel in the gallery.

songs from the wood.

heavy horses.

a passion play



Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 08:25
I know you wanted to stay away from compilations, but I really love "Bursting Out"...it's a great live show, the band is at their strongest and Ian is great in between songs, it includes a lot of the band's best material, and the sound quality is not too bad (for a 70s live album). If you're any kind of guitar fan, Barre is really prominent in the mix too (and if you're a bass fan, you can actually hear it clearly on all the tracks, unlike on many Tull releases).

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 09:59

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

I know you wanted to stay away from compilations, but I really love "Bursting Out"...it's a great live show, the band is at their strongest and Ian is great in between songs, it includes a lot of the band's best material, and the sound quality is not too bad (for a 70s live album). If you're any kind of guitar fan, Barre is really prominent in the mix too (and if you're a bass fan, you can actually hear it clearly on all the tracks, unlike on many Tull releases).

I couldn't agree more, 'Bursting Out' is a great document of the band at the height of it's creative powers. I think it was recorded on the 'Songs From The Wood' tour but correct me if I'm wrong.



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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 10:02
Heavy Horses Tour

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Billy Connolly
Dream Theater
Terry Gilliam
Hagen Quartet
Jethro Tull
Mike Keneally


Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 10:31

Bursting Out was the first Tull album I bought and the minute i heard the first track 'no lullaby' i knew i would love this band.

Heavy Horses is a wondefully uplifting album but Aqualung is probably my favourite, i prefer the darker heavier Tull.

 



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 11:38

Originally posted by Velvetclown Velvetclown wrote:

Heavy Horses Tour

Ithangyew....



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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill


Posted By: Panoramic
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 21:17
Thanks guys...I think I'll check out Song from The Wood and Minstrel in the Gallery and perhaps Bursting Out


Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 22:48

Originally posted by Panoramic Panoramic wrote:

Thanks guys...I think I'll check out Song from The Wood and Minstrel in the Gallery and perhaps Bursting Out

Can't go wrong with any of those. I just bought the remastered Bursting Out and it sounds terrific.  It has a a great 12 minute version of Thick as a Brick which shows off the talents of John Glasscock and Barymore Barlow (Bass and Drums). I happend to see that tour and the one before that, Great set and music was just on the money. Great picture of the "classic" Tull lineup.



Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: October 26 2004 at 22:53
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

I know you wanted to stay away from compilations, but I really love "Bursting Out"...it's a great live show, the band is at their strongest and Ian is great in between songs, it includes a lot of the band's best material, and the sound quality is not too bad (for a 70s live album). If you're any kind of guitar fan, Barre is really prominent in the mix too (and if you're a bass fan, you can actually hear it clearly on all the tracks, unlike on many Tull releases).

I couldn't agree more, 'Bursting Out' is a great document of the band at the height of it's creative powers. I think it was recorded on the 'Songs From The Wood' tour but correct me if I'm wrong.

 

It was the year after, 1978 Heavy Horses tour I think because it has One Brown Mouse and Songs From the Woods is abbreviated.




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