Paice or Bonham?
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Topic: Paice or Bonham?
Posted By: Dr Know
Subject: Paice or Bonham?
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:31
| Although their styles are very different, who would you say is better? |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:35
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Definitely Bonham...the man is a legend! Never really liked Paice's drumming much...not that i think he'ds bad or anything. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:36
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Out of those two I like Bonham.His power was unbelievable,I have never heard another drummer quite like him. -------------  |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:42
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There is no drummer like him! Nice we agree Jodester! I always found Paices drumming kinda.....I dunno...untidy! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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TheProgtologist wrote:Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:43
Paice's drumming never really did anything for me. ------------- |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:45
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Bonham baby! yeah! ------------- 
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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 10:51
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I voted Paice. After seeing the DVD Deep Purple 72/73 and watching his solo during The Mule I was totally blown away. Another interesting thing I saw was during the song Fireball they attached another bass drum to his kit. I think that was the first time for anyone to use double bass drums.
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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 11:27
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na i think ginger baker or keith moon were the first to use double bass drums. please correct me i want to know who used them first. but i vote bohnam but i havnt heard much of paice though. ------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants. 
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Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 11:34
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Paice used them in 1972, I also would like to know who was first to use double bass drums Any drummers out there |
?Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 14:27
| Ian Paice |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 15:28
Though I really love both. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 16:34
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Both=good But Bonzo is just, well, better. -------------  
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 16:36
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: February 18 2006 at 18:52
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What band is Paice in? Never heard of him. I am a big fan of Bonham though, so I would probably pick him anyway. ------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough from the heart Its astart What we need is awareness we cant get careless Mental self defensive fitness Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 06:52
Bonham for his power and unique sound!  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 07:56
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Ian Paice ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: February 19 2006 at 15:29
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Ian Paice is from Deep Purple |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:36
| I think Bonham was a bit better, but overall I prefer Deep Puple over Led Zeppelin. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 07:39
| Paice is probably a better technician than Bonham, and is one of the fastest drummers around (listen to the intro to "You Fool No One"), but Bonzo is the best! No one else could play "When the levee breaks" or "In my time of dying" in quite the same way. |
Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 16:06
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John Bonham is my god. Well, not really since I don't play drums, and he's not alive. But he's the best drummer. Bonzo lives forever, man. So what if he's dead? He can play from beyond the grave. ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
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Posted By: Diarrhea
Date Posted: February 22 2006 at 01:56
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John Bonham for me....
I love Zep a lot and I think Bonham has more powerful sound....I like Purple too but I think Bonham's better.. ------------- The World is a Big Ball!!! |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 10:52
Jethro Tull started using double bass drums very early in their career. BTW, Bonham is 10 times better than Paice and I will always prefer Led Zeppelin than Deep Purple. But I voted for Paice beacuse I like his style more: Bonham is a rolling bulldozer beast, Paiste is frenetic skinny puppet plugged in 220V electricity circuit.And he looks geeky, which I like  ------------- |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 05:50
where's Sasquamo?! he shouldn't hurt himself keeping his opinions for him, on this thread & poll!  ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:18
| Bonzo, but Paice is great too! |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:32
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Terry Bozzio  ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 09:39
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Bonzo, the most powerfull drummer ever
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: November 23 2006 at 16:20
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Bonham's technical skills were limited to say the least. Anyone who doesn't realise this is probably not a drummer. However, he did have a style that he managed to make his own (probably the first guy to use an unshamedly straight rock approach in a blues context) and that made him have a huge influence on basically anyone who has heard him play. For me at least, his style is highly contagious - it's probably what people feel as "power" in his playing. His use of the bass drum in particular was delicious and there's no denying it changed many drummers' approach towards playing in the following years. Well, it even changed mine a few years ago, so that's really something. Also, the fact that he played in a great band with a unique creative personality as a whole helped things a lot.
Paice on the other hand is way more accomplished technically and more imaginative (oh, come on, listen to "Burn" if nothing else). Well, he wasn't always very inspired, but he could be really impressive at times. I think he could have played in basically any rock band of that time and do a marvelous job, and he probably could have easily fit in a jazz formula. Then again, maybe that's part of what makes him not as "unique" as Bonham (excuse the pleonasm). I mean, I could picture Paice in a different context than Deep Purple or Deep Purple without him, but I couldn't imagine Led Zeppelin without Bonham.
To conclude, the first post in the thread contradicts the poll question itself - is it "who is your favourite" or "who is better"? I'd say Paice is obviously the more skilled of them, but my favourite is Bonham, so... I can't really vote here. ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: November 26 2006 at 11:16
True that.
Ian Paice isn't bad, either.
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 05:16
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Although I quite like Ian Paice, my favourite drummer is and will always be - at least until somebody as unique as him appears - JOHN HENRY BONHAM !!
------------- "We've got to get in to get out" |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 05:23
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Nice to see the love for Bonzo. This persistent idea that JB was not technically accomplished is just wrong and rather bizarre. In the prog world he is of course seen as technically inferior to Bruford, White, Bozzio or Peart, which is quite right. But before prog took hold (and even right up to his death in 1980) Bonham was the finest rock drummer in the world. And frankly, he still is, sorry.
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 05:02
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My vote goes to Paice, although both are great. I think Paice's drumming can be soft and subtle when it is needed - Bonham couldn't play like this.
About the question of two bass drums: Art Blakey played with two bass drums on a studio recording at the early Fifties, sorry, don't know exactly when nor in which song. Probably the first rock drummer who used two bass drums was Ginger Baker - as far as I know, he was playing with it in his Graham Bond Organization days.
By the way, Atavachron: IMHO Bill Bruford is the finest rock drummer in the world! ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 05:18
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Ian Paice - he is a more technically varied in his style of drumming. I have always admired his work. ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 10:53
| Ian Paice, for me. I understand nothing in drumming techniques, so my attitude is purely emotional. I never liked Bonham's way of playing too much. |
Posted By: Tenken
Date Posted: December 05 2006 at 17:20
Difficult!!! but.... mmm Bonzo!!!  -------------  ¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Posted By: Timsan
Date Posted: December 11 2006 at 05:45
I think Moon where one of the first, he used it on the studio recording "bargain" from Who´s next!!!
In my opinion the only two that can compete with bonham is moon and baker, but i think bonham wins a narrow win over moon!
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 11 2006 at 10:57
He played drums on The Velvet Underground's Squeeze LP.
------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 11 2006 at 13:37
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I've voted for John Bonham; one of my favourite drummers.
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Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 10:38
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I prefer Bonzo.... ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: Howe Protege
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 00:26
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I feel that Bonham is slightly overrated
------------- My favorite pasty faced British pal. 
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Posted By: Speesh
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 11:21
| I like both a lot, but I'm going to go with Bonham on this one. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 00:00
| I don't care much for either, but I vote for Ian Paice because he plays some stuff that a drum machine couldn't do. |
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 00:28
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Paice is better... Bonham was just stronger... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 08:39
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I voted Bonham.
I like Paice very much (as Palmer, Brufford, White, Thompson, Collins and of course Keith Moon).
Both are one of the greatest drummer of the rock history but when you SEE "Mody Dick" versus "The Mule" for instance, I believe that his incredible ability makes Bonham a better drummer.
I saw Bonham in December 1975 (in Brussels). Paice : five times.
Always a great experience. Both.
Cheers. ------------- ZowieZiggy |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 08:43
| Bonham |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: January 26 2007 at 15:19
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I vote for Paice here. He has more subtleties to his playing and is a better technician on drums than Bonham was. Sure, Bonham's power is only rivaled by that of skin basher Keith Moon, but I find both to be 'all over the place'.
Enjoy both styles though, but Paice I prefer. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |