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canterbury vs german 70’s rock (krautrock

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Topic: canterbury vs german 70’s rock (krautrock
Posted By: kebjourman
Subject: canterbury vs german 70’s rock (krautrock
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 08:09

 

these groups

soft machine

caravan

hatfield and north

 gong

national health

egg

and other canterbury groups

VS

kraftwerk

can

faust

neu!

amon duul

and other german rock

 

who will YOU vote for?

 

i thought about this for 10 minutes and came out with canterbury




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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 08:14
Canterbury


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 08:28
I would not oppose these two schools as they are antithetic.
I'd say that german prog is more inventive and experimental and that Canterbury plays in a much pop (Caravan) or jazzy side (SM).
More important, german prog is far more acid than Canterbury (except Gong, but i don't agree that they are canterburyan), which leads to a very cerebral, cosmic music not as accesible as Canterbury.


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 08:30
Klautrock! (leaving out Kraftwerk )

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 09:05
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I bet you don't know the two first Kraftwerk.


Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 09:53
Canterbury.  Easy choice.  Sorry repetitive, droning music doesn't do it for me, nor do I see the cosmic quality in it.  Canterbury hands down

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 11:12
"repetitive, droning music"

You can't reduce german prog to that.

Agitation free, Popol vuh, Ash ra temple or Amon dull -to name a few- makes much more than that.


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 11:58
Totally agree with you there, Oliver. I see a lot of similarities between Canterbury and Krautrock though. Both tried to expand the musical spectrum, although in different ways.  And I am pretty sure drugs played a big role in both scenes. And a lot of Krautrock is much more jazzy than people realize (Embryo, Kraan, Annexus Quam, some Guru Guru, a little later Aera). On the other hand some Canterbury albums sound like Kraut. (Just listen to the only album of Arzachel, especially side 2. Or some of the experiments of Soft Machine, Gong, the first solo album of Daevid Allen).

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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.


Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 12:08
That's tough, I love both of them. However, I voted for Canterbury. Soft Machine is pure genius.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 12:57
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Totally agree with you there, Oliver. I see a lot of similarities between Canterbury and Krautrock though. Both tried to expand the musical spectrum, although in different ways.  And I am pretty sure drugs played a big role in both scenes. And a lot of Krautrock is much more jazzy than people realize (Embryo, Kraan, Annexus Quam, some Guru Guru, a little later Aera). On the other hand some Canterbury albums sound like Kraut. (Just listen to the only album of Arzachel, especially side 2. Or some of the experiments of Soft Machine, Gong, the first solo album of Daevid Allen).


Yes. LSD played a significant role in german music.
And i think that german youth wanted to break from the former generation and the heavy historical past and that why they gone so far in their experiment.

Talking about Gong, i've ordered Fairy tales CD, following your advice (or was it your sister's advice?).
I scored it for less than 3€ new through Amazon!!!!


Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 13:39
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Totally agree with you there, Oliver. I see a lot of similarities between Canterbury and Krautrock though. Both tried to expand the musical spectrum, although in different ways.  And I am pretty sure drugs played a big role in both scenes. And a lot of Krautrock is much more jazzy than people realize (Embryo, Kraan, Annexus Quam, some Guru Guru, a little later Aera). On the other hand some Canterbury albums sound like Kraut. (Just listen to the only album of Arzachel, especially side 2. Or some of the experiments of Soft Machine, Gong, the first solo album of Daevid Allen).


Yes. LSD played a significant role in german music.
And i think that german youth wanted to break from the former generation and the heavy historical past and that why they gone so far in their experiment.

Talking about Gong, i've ordered Fairy tales CD, following your advice (or was it your sister's advice?).
I scored it for less than 3€ new through Amazon!!!!

She is my wife, Oliver. Same-sex marriage is legal here.


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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 15:34
"She is my wife, Oliver. Same-sex marriage is legal here."

Yes, i used the term "sister" as "soul sister".

I know she's your wife and that "Same-sex marriage is legal here", you had repeat it us often enough



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