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Topic: All Egoists Apply here!
Posted By: Guests
Subject: All Egoists Apply here!
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:46

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.




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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:49


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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:52

Billy Joe Armstrong

...considering that I can't play at all



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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:53


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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:53

I smoke Vinnie Colaiuta in air drumming. Also my free form guitar playing is a lot more free form than David Torn's. 



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:54


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:57
hmmmm....


better drummer than Ron Bushy
better bassist than Roger Waters
better singer than Steve Howe
better piano player than ....well my son.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:59
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Billy Joe Armstrong

...considering that I can't play at all

Very bold, sir. Yet not quite so bold...



Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:01
And this is EGO, ladies and gentlemans.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:03
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

I smoke Vinnie Colaiuta in air drumming. Also my free form guitar playing is a lot more free form than David Torn's. 

Delusions of grandeur, eh?



Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:04
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:14
Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?

I only ever made one album with one of my bands, and it wasn't prog, it was a sort of experimental free jazz-metal-60's pop. Think King Crimson fronted by Roy Orbison, and you'll have an idea of what we sounded like. And we had mediocre songs, but we had great musicians (including yours truly, of course). Burning Squash Junkies was the name of our selff-titled debut. It was released in the mid 80s. I think it was on 8-track. If you find it, feel free to gloat over my wasted career in music.



Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:15
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

I smoke Vinnie Colaiuta in air drumming. Also my free form guitar playing is a lot more free form than David Torn's. 

Delusions of grandeur, eh?

Why the need to insult my art?

Consider:

When have you last seen Mr Colaiuta air drum?

Well?

I hate to flaunt my ability, but after the air drum battle I had with him a few years ago he could only hang his head in shame and decide to stick to hitting things.

And Mr Torn could only shake his head in disbelief after witnessing the degree of freedom my guitar improvisations attain.

No delusions here, only concrete facts.

 

 



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:17
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

I smoke Vinnie Colaiuta in air drumming. Also my free form guitar playing is a lot more free form than David Torn's. 

Delusions of grandeur, eh?

Why the need to insult my art?

Consider:

When have you last seen Mr Colaiuta air drum?

Well?

I hate to flaunt my ability, but after the air drum battle I had with him a few years ago he could only hang his head in shame and decide to stick to hitting things.

And Mr Torn could only shake his head in disbelief after witnessing the degree of freedom my guitar improvisations attain.

No delusions here, only concrete facts.

 

 

I concede to your obvious skills then. You are truly an unplugged force to be reckoned with.



Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:21
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

I smoke Vinnie Colaiuta in air drumming. Also my free form guitar playing is a lot more free form than David Torn's. 

Delusions of grandeur, eh?

Why the need to insult my art?

Consider:

When have you last seen Mr Colaiuta air drum?

Well?

I hate to flaunt my ability, but after the air drum battle I had with him a few years ago he could only hang his head in shame and decide to stick to hitting things.

And Mr Torn could only shake his head in disbelief after witnessing the degree of freedom my guitar improvisations attain.

No delusions here, only concrete facts.

 

 

I concede to your obvious skills then. You are truly an unplugged force to be reckoned with.



'air' drumming is a truly.... underrated art form hahahhah.


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Posted By: Gomurisu
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:22
I must say that I'm a better guitarist than Kurt Cobain.


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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:22
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?

I only ever made one album with one of my bands, and it wasn't prog, it was a sort of experimental free jazz-metal-60's pop. Think King Crimson fronted by Roy Orbison, and you'll have an idea of what we sounded like. And we had mediocre songs, but we had great musicians (including yours truly, of course). Burning Squash Junkies was the name of our selff-titled debut. It was released in the mid 80s. I think it was on 8-track. If you find it, feel free to gloat over my wasted career in music.



That may be the point. You may be a better musician. I can’t argue that. But talent isn't the only thing it takes to make it professionally. Perhaps Rutherford and Lee were more determined to make it than others.




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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:30
Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?

I only ever made one album with one of my bands, and it wasn't prog, it was a sort of experimental free jazz-metal-60's pop. Think King Crimson fronted by Roy Orbison, and you'll have an idea of what we sounded like. And we had mediocre songs, but we had great musicians (including yours truly, of course). Burning Squash Junkies was the name of our selff-titled debut. It was released in the mid 80s. I think it was on 8-track. If you find it, feel free to gloat over my wasted career in music.



That may be the point. You may be a better musician. I can’t argue that. But talent isn't the only thing it takes to make it professionally. Perhaps Rutherford and Lee were more determined to make it than others.


Rutherford just happened to be in the same band as musicians who were far more talented than him, so "Eehh..." to that.

Rush... okay, determination probably had something to do with that, and Lee is a fine instrumentalist.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:33
Besides, you can't llive in that kind of world forever. At some point in the early nineties I settled down and opened up a bookstore with my beautiful  Irish wife and two children. Haven't looked back ever since.


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:40
Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?

I only ever made one album with one of my bands, and it wasn't prog, it was a sort of experimental free jazz-metal-60's pop. Think King Crimson fronted by Roy Orbison, and you'll have an idea of what we sounded like. And we had mediocre songs, but we had great musicians (including yours truly, of course). Burning Squash Junkies was the name of our selff-titled debut. It was released in the mid 80s. I think it was on 8-track. If you find it, feel free to gloat over my wasted career in music.



That may be the point. You may be a better musician. I can’t argue that. But talent isn't the only thing it takes to make it professionally. Perhaps Rutherford and Lee were more determined to make it than others.


Rutherford just happened to be in the same band as musicians who were far more talented than him, so "Eehh..." to that.

Rush... okay, determination probably had something to do with that, and Lee is a fine instrumentalist.

Rutherford was no slouch, watch videos of early 70s Genesis with him switching between bass (with pedals), 6-string and 12-string guitar within the same song

pretty impressive imo.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 14:45
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Originally posted by Catholic Flame Catholic Flame wrote:

Originally posted by FuzzyDude FuzzyDude wrote:

Name one famous musician that you know that you yourself can play better than.

For myself, I know I'm a MUCH better bassist and guitarist than Mike Rutherford of Genesis.

Also a much better singer than Geddy Lee of Rush.



And where can I buy your CD?

I only ever made one album with one of my bands, and it wasn't prog, it was a sort of experimental free jazz-metal-60's pop. Think King Crimson fronted by Roy Orbison, and you'll have an idea of what we sounded like. And we had mediocre songs, but we had great musicians (including yours truly, of course). Burning Squash Junkies was the name of our selff-titled debut. It was released in the mid 80s. I think it was on 8-track. If you find it, feel free to gloat over my wasted career in music.



That may be the point. You may be a better musician. I can’t argue that. But talent isn't the only thing it takes to make it professionally. Perhaps Rutherford and Lee were more determined to make it than others.


Rutherford just happened to be in the same band as musicians who were far more talented than him, so "Eehh..." to that.

Rush... okay, determination probably had something to do with that, and Lee is a fine instrumentalist.

Rutherford was no slouch, watch videos of early 70s Genesis with him switching between bass (with pedals), 6-string and 12-string guitar within the same song

pretty impressive imo.

He's diverse, but his actual melody skills with ANY instrument were dismal.

P.S. I love long quotes.



Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 19:10
you play better than rutherford in your dreams!

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 02:25
Let's face it, it may sound like bragging, but it's certainly a possibility ... especially on a site like this, where so many musicians reside

Having said that, as a specialist keyboardist I am way behind any specialist keyboardist I admire ... and that's despite 21 years of playing under my belt ...

As a bassist, I am even further behind any specialist bassist that I admire ... took up the bass about 5 years ago and I think I only have enough ideas for one album before I start repeating myself ...

And as a vocalist, I stink, but I believe I'm ever so slightly better than Lee Jackson of The Nice/Refugee

BTW, Manunkind ... I think you should take up underwater keyboards ... you seem to have a real talent there!


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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 04:56
I could smoke anyone on cowbell


Posted By: pero
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 06:32

Better drummer than Ray Charles

Better singer then John Weathers



Posted By: paradigm
Date Posted: February 16 2006 at 16:49
i have recently mastered the art playing the kazoo while also playing a bit ot of free form contrabasoon

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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: February 16 2006 at 16:55
Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

I could smoke anyone on cowbell


And I smoke Ed Grimley on triangle.


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Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 12:51
Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

I could smoke anyone on cowbell

Not the guy from Blue Oyster Cult.

Anyway, I play guitar better than... no one famous.

I play piano better than... no one famous, but if I practiced a lot I might get there.


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Posted By: Gary the Ghoul
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 16:21
Johnny Ramone


Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 09:34
I can play the intro of 'Blood on the Rooftops' much better than Hackett!
I mean with he's talent why does it sound so carppy...
  • the guitar sounds like a broomstick with strings (I know, I happen to have one myself)
  • Hackett doesn't stay in tempo (don't tell me that it's just music - music has a way of progressing somewhere but this is just foul playing)
  • there are very few dynamics (a slight diminuendo at some places)
I respect Hackett and all. He's one of my favourite guitarist but I hope that the problem is that Steve was just running out of studio time and he had no choice but to play with a second-hand guitar and half a century old strings.




Great music Steve - keep on playin'


I can also sing better than Steve Howe


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 16:54

Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

I could smoke anyone on cowbell


And I smoke Ed Grimley on triangle.

Am I the only one who found that hilarious (or maybe even the only one who got that in the first place)?



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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: March 13 2006 at 17:27
I can perfectly imitate Johnny Cash' voice.

I think I'm a great vocalist.
 I don't know if I can tell that I'm better than anyone because everyone have pretty diverse vocal tastes.

On keyboards, I suck compared to my heroes


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Posted By: BigHairyMonster
Date Posted: March 16 2006 at 19:30
Ego?

I won't say that I am better than anyone else at my instrument (keyboards), but I could probably give several a run for their money.

Well, ok, I could shred Tony Kaye.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 10:33
I could probably play Bass better than the guys from McFly and Busted

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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 17 2006 at 13:17
We are better players than the most of MTV´s artist like simple plan good charlotte and that kind of sh*t

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Posted By: bongofury
Date Posted: March 19 2006 at 02:33
I rather like Rutherford's bass playing(this from a drummer). Have you listened to the bass line in No Reply At All? Not prog, but very groovy. Maybe it was a studio cat? I dunno. He's no Squire or Levin, but neither is Whetton....


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 18:21
Originally posted by Pafnutij Pafnutij wrote:

I could smoke anyone on cowbell


not me LOL


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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 18:24
we're about to experience a bumping of all threads featuring the word "cowbell" somewhere in their bodies o:)

on topic I'm better at composing for the NES console than Koji Kondo ever was. (brave lapi)

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 16 2008 at 18:26
^ that would be trollish behavior now wouldn't it LOL

*good thing I resisted bumping the BOC thread hahahha that was next on the list.. it was a mother beautiful post*


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Posted By: arnoldlayne
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 04:58
Er... I'm a better singer than 90% of singers that have ever been recorded, possibly, ok maybe that's a bit far fetched, but I'm a better singer than most of the rubbish at the moment!
 
Actually, I've just realised this post is pointless, this thread even...?
 
Of course some guys are not as good as some who didn't make it. Rutherford is a good example here. He may not be the greatest bassist there ever was, but he made it as a part of a dream team in the classic Genesis line up. Like football, you need star players and team workers for a truly great whole. How many supergroups equal the sum of their parts?
 
Nick Mason by his own admission ain't the world's best drummer, but can you imagine how horrible the Floyd might have sounded with a more complicated drummer? 



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