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Topic: should reviews be in 10 stars?
Posted By: thanos
Subject: should reviews be in 10 stars?
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 10:52

in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.

well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate

excuse my bad english



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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:01
Yes, that would be good, there would be more differences within the various albums. Now there are many albums, rated the same, but which are actually totally different in their degree of brilliance.

0%-100% would also be a good idea!

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Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:05
yes thats a good idea but kind of difficult to make a review

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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:13
yeah, probably 100 possibilities are too much

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 11:27

10 stars would be good in principle, but what would you do about all the existing ratings?

I guess all you could do is double their existing rating, but then you'd end up with a load of 10 out of 10s, which would definitely be wrong.



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 12:21
Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.

well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate

excuse my bad english

I prefer 15 steps:

1 2 3  4 5 6  7 8 9  10 11 12  13 14 15
  *      *      *       *         *

The big advantages:

  • More than one step between two stars
  • The masterpiece category (5 stars) has three steps - that enables you to be very selective for the real masterpieces (15), but you still have two steps for other albums which you consider to be really essential.
  • The existing ratings could be better converted to this schema. With 10 steps you get either a too high, or too low rating.
  • The schema is not as complicated as it looks.


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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 12:47
Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.

well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate

excuse my bad english

But what if I want to put a 7.5 rating? 



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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 14:17
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:


in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.


well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate


excuse my bad english



I prefer 15 steps:


1 2 3  4 5 6  7 8 9  10 11 12  13 14 15<FONT face="Courier New" color=#009900 size=4>  *      *      *       *         *


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color=#000000 size=2>The big advantages:



  • <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>More than one step between two stars

  • <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The masterpiece category (5 stars) has three steps - that enables you to be very selective for the real masterpieces (15), but you still have two steps for other albums which you consider to be really essential.

  • <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The existing ratings could be better converted to this schema. With 10 steps you get either a too high, or too low rating.

  • <FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The schema is not as complicated as it looks.


good idea

basic school system, I think it will work really well.





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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 14:32
"basic school system, I think it will work really well".


What schools??


I've guessed already - now where are the bald ladies??

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 14:45
I like that 1-15 system. Just like the regular five stars, but more accurate.


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 15:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.

well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate

excuse my bad english

I prefer 15 steps:

1 2 3  4 5 6  7 8 9  10 11 12  13 14 15
  *      *      *       *         *

The big advantages:

  • More than one step between two stars
  • The masterpiece category (5 stars) has three steps - that enables you to be very selective for the real masterpieces (15), but you still have two steps for other albums which you consider to be really essential.
  • The existing ratings could be better converted to this schema. With 10 steps you get either a too high, or too low rating.
  • The schema is not as complicated as it looks.

Nice one, Mike!

It's pretty too.



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Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 16:54
It seems like a really good idea. There are way to many 5 stars albums as it is, meaning it's to easy to rate an album you have heard maybe just a few times much to high. It would problaby be a lot of 8 and 9 stars ratings aswell as maybe 2 and 3 stars but I believe is harder to give maximum score without twisting your brain a bit. 

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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 17:16
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in my opinion it is better that reviews should be on 10 stars.if someone wants to put 3,5 stars on an album he must put 3 or 4 stars.but if he could judje in 10 stars he could put 7.

well the lists of the best albums would be more accurate

excuse my bad english

I prefer 15 steps:

1 2 3  4 5 6  7 8 9  10 11 12  13 14 15
  *      *      *       *         *

The big advantages:

  • More than one step between two stars
  • The masterpiece category (5 stars) has three steps - that enables you to be very selective for the real masterpieces (15), but you still have two steps for other albums which you consider to be really essential.
  • The existing ratings could be better converted to this schema. With 10 steps you get either a too high, or too low rating.
  • The schema is not as complicated as it looks.

Nice one, Mike!

It's pretty too.

Yeah - I like that idea as well!

Although I'm a bigger fan of classic 10 star ratings..

but the 15 are far better then the darn 5 stars



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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 18:08

What about an 1.5, 2.5, 3.5 and 4.5 option along with the standard 1,2,3,4,5 option. Like this:

5.0 out of 5 stars

4.5 out of 5 stars

4.0 out of 5 stars

3.5 out of 5 stars

3.0 out of 5 stars

2.5 out of 5 stars

1.5 out of 5 stars

Instead of this:

5.0 out of 5 stars

4.0 out of 5 stars

3.0 out of 5 stars

Also, the average rating of an album would be more accurate.



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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:37
would be kind of a 10 star rating.

But this could work well. Many reviewers wrote anything like 4.5, etc, but then they gave it 4 stars. Well, anyone would have to check every review and change it then. That would be a possibility to introduce a 10 star system without deleting all the ratings and the average rating for the albums from 1-5 would remain as well.

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Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 07:49

well yes the 15 star idea is pretty nice!!!

as far as the older reviews are concerned,thats a problem...



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Posted By: Jazzis
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 13:59

5, 10, 15 - it is all silly.

Any attempt to "grade" Art is just absurd. If you have something to say - say it, forget the grades.

Would you grade paintings? sculptures? poems?



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 14:30
Originally posted by Jazzis Jazzis wrote:

5, 10, 15 - it is all silly.

Any attempt to "grade" Art is just absurd. If you have something to say - say it, forget the grades.

Would you grade paintings? sculptures? poems?

sure. As long as you keep in mind that the ratings are subjective, they can be used for many useful things. One of them is recommendations.



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Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 14:48
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Jazzis Jazzis wrote:

yes i agree

5, 10, 15 - it is all silly.

Any attempt to "grade" Art is just absurd. If you have something to say - say it, forget the grades.

Would you grade paintings? sculptures? poems?

sure. As long as you keep in mind that the ratings are subjective, they can be used for many useful things. One of them is recommendations.



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Posted By: Sharier
Date Posted: January 31 2006 at 06:22
I strongly support a 10-star system for good reasons. The number one reason is that under the 5 star system, people tend to rate 5 starts to any album they like-- although that album may not be a 'master-piece'. What they really want to do is put a 4.5 star rating. Its not possible in the 5 star system.

Secondly, in the 5 star system-- there is no way you can give an album a 50-50 credit/discredit. The flaw is built-in for you to either put a nice- 50/50 album to either a better album rank or worse album rank.




Posted By: progaeopteryx
Date Posted: February 04 2006 at 14:00
I would support a 10 or 15 star system if the system was designed to let reviewers go back and adjust their previous reviews' ratings. In other words, old reviews on the five-star system would be doubled. Then reviewers, at their leisure, would adjust their ratings to what they feel appropriate (i.e., the 10 should really be a 9, etc.). Admittedly that would take quite some time and some people may not bother readjusting (for some that would mean hundreds of changes!).

The 15-star system could be set the middle value of the sets of three, and then reviewers could adjust accordingly after the change was made.

That does sound like a lot of work, but it wouldn't be fair to move a 5-star album to a 10-star album if the reviewer prefers it to be 9 stars and has no convenient way of changing it. Resubmitting reviews would be way too much work

One of those things that hindsight always does.



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