prog needs a new name ...
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Topic: prog needs a new name ...
Posted By: Guests
Subject: prog needs a new name ...
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 10:54
There isn`t any such thing as progressive rock , its all been done before , theres nothing new under the sun. The term progressive means to move forward, to break new ground , to boldly go where no one has gone before. Prog seems to slip side ways but as far as new ground, thats a joke. What prog needs to do is reinvent itself find a new name that doesn't stress the artists to live up to false expectations.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 10:58
Rap isn't rapping up
Rock n' Roll isn't rolling
Progressive isn't progressing.
I don't know, I say keep it.
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 11:21
s1ipp3ry wrote:
There isn`t any such thing as progressive rock , its all been done before , theres nothing new under the sun. The term progressive means to move forward, to break new ground , to boldly go where no one has gone before. Prog seems to slip side ways but as far as new ground, thats a joke. What prog needs to do is reinvent itself find a new name that doesn't stress the artists to live up to false expectations.
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I totally agree its needs to progress
seems kind of suprising coming from you seeing as you dont think alternative rock and prog should be mixed
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 11:27
s1ipp3ry wrote:
There isn`t any such thing as progressive rock , its all been done before , theres nothing new under the sun. The term progressive means to move forward, to break new ground , to boldly go where no one has gone before. Prog seems to slip side ways but as far as new ground, thats a joke. What prog needs to do is reinvent itself find a new name that doesn't stress the artists to live up to false expectations.
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You said it above,
but new wave is not new, nu-metal will someday be old news etc....
the architectural current Art Nouveau is not new and Art Deco for all its geometrical shapes was anything but decorative.
Forget the name and enjoy.
It has been all done before since 72, though. Maybe RIO explored until the mid-80's but that is about it.
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Posted By: Moribund
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 11:46
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
But why not use Progressive when the music (however rarely) really IS, and Prog as a label to describe the general sound of the genre. i.e. Yes were once Progressive, now they're Prog.
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 12:02
Sean Trane wrote:
s1ipp3ry wrote:
There isn`t any such thing as progressive rock , its all been done before , theres nothing new under the sun. The term progressive means to move forward, to break new ground , to boldly go where no one has gone before. Prog seems to slip side ways but as far as new ground, thats a joke. What prog needs to do is reinvent itself find a new name that doesn't stress the artists to live up to false expectations.
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You said it above,
but new wave is not new, nu-metal will someday be old news etc....
the architectural current Art Nouveau is not new and Art Deco for all its geometrical shapes was anything but decorative.
Forget the name and enjoy.
It has been all done before since 72, though. Maybe RIO explored until the mid-80's but that is about it. |
Totally agree. Is name so important?
"I know what I like and I like what I know"
------------- I know what I like and I like what I know...
Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul...
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Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 12:34
Prog doesn't need to progress at all! It's an atitude towards music and has certain characteristics, just like any other genre.
Of course it'd be nice to see new things within the prog genre as well,
but including bands that don't have these characteristics mentioned
above just for the sake of having a progress in the genre is silly.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 12:58
Let's call it Loretta.
------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:06
Evolver wrote:
Let's call it Loretta. |
Then... "Music for extremely interesting people", maybe? 
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:23
Evolver wrote:
Let's call it Loretta. |
Hmm...
Symphonic Loretta
Loretta metal
Folk Loretta
Neo Loretta
Proto Loretta
Loretta related
... perfect !
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:25
I'm going to buy the domain "LorettArchives.com" 
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:26
The Genre Formerly Known As Prog?
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:42
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 13:44
Progressive rock is just a label that stuck. It was initially called "progressive" because it was different from the other kinds of music at the time. True, it's not a perfect label but it seems to be the most common eventhough many people don't like it mainly because they are taking it to literally and can't understand that it's just a label to describe the approach to the music and not meant to be literal. Look at it this way. Prog will probably always be progressive compared to anything that you hear on the radio or anything that is "popular"(ie top 40).
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 14:07
I think it's still progressing just as any other music is.
don't forget about King Crimson, they continue to break new ground every year and they still are!
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Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 20:11
^ i agree. whats the point of changing the name.
------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants.
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:22
What would all of us old farts do if someone changed the name.
We all (think we) know what's prog. Let's keep it Prog.
------------- David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light.
http://www.myspace.com/aardvarktxusa - Instrumental rock
http://www.soundclick.com/aardvarktxusa
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:46
we can call it 'musicthatyouwontgetitbecauseisprogersiverock''
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:49
Im The Future Of Progressive Rock
Im Not Joking Give Me Five Years
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 16:54
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 17:10
I just call it all Art Rock and am done with it. Fits alot better.
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 17:21
^ Yeah, Artistic Rock is very good name
------------- I know what I like and I like what I know...
Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul...
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 12:17
Ahum if ye even bothered checking out the RIO/Avant garde section you would find there is still lots of original music around 
Just look at stuff like Fantomas or Mr.Bungle
Even some symphonic prog bands is still quite original...but ofcourse the most original bands are usually the least popular 
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 12:22
If you think rock isn't progressing anymore, maybe you're just looking in the wrong places . There are plenty of really innovative artists out there, and to deny that proves nothing but your own inability to find them.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 14:52
I don't know why, but I really think we should call it Gerald.
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: January 29 2006 at 15:55
Progs name is good as it is.
------------- We got to pump the stuff to make us tough
from the heart
Its astart
What we need is awareness we cant get careless
Mental self defensive fitness
Make everybody see in order to fight the powers that be
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Posted By: WhiskeyVegeance
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 05:55
s1ipp3ry wrote:
There isn`t any such thing as progressive rock , its all been done before , theres nothing new under the sun. The term progressive means to move forward, to break new ground , to boldly go where no one has gone before. Prog seems to slip side ways but as far as new ground, thats a joke. What prog needs to do is reinvent itself find a new name that doesn't stress the artists to live up to false expectations. |
Rock can't progress any further because it's dead.
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