The Future Of Prog?
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Topic: The Future Of Prog?
Posted By: Tony R
Subject: The Future Of Prog?
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 19:08
So who is going to be top dog amongst the newcomers this time next year and why? Is there any band or project waiting in the wings that is going to "knock our socks off"?
Thoughts please.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 19:11
Out of those, TMV. They are doing something completely new and different from the rest, which is the ultimate progression, IMO.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 19:28
The Mars Volta, unquestionably. They have already put out incredible, original and groundbreaking material, and will continue to do great things. Coheed and Cambria is going to be the band getting prog out in the mainstream, and make a great bridge for mainstream people to cross into the world of prog (and yes, they are prog). Also, I wonder what Coheed is going to do when they finish the story, but that's somewhat off topic. I'm sure Riverside and Wobbler are going to do some noteworthy things in the future, but not up to the level of The Mars Volta.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 19:53
If Mind Sky get a settled line up they could go far. Izz have got a killer album waiting to spring forth (My River Flows is good but not great)
Riverside diasappoint me slightly,to me the second album is a step backwards.Dont get me wrong its a fine album but this time last year I was predicting great things for them and it isnt going to happen on the back of Second Life Syndrome.
TMV are probably too off-the-wall for prolonged mainstream success but will continue to wow Prog audiences and Coheed and Cambria,though interesting,aren't really a Prog Rock band,yet.
Wobbler and Magic Sky are fantastic bands who could produce wonderful clasic Prog albums in the future,if they can sell enough records to us hardcore fans.They will never achieve mainstream appeal which is a shame.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 20:44
Im going to try and compare the new bands with exsisting prog bands from the past...
The mars volta - the next King Crimson. Pretty notisable with the experimentations and noises.
Wobbler - the next Anglagard. Retro sounds, vintage instruments, "mellotron drenched"
Magic Pie - the next Flower Kings. Alot of prog cliches and very uplifting almost never sad
IZZ - sorry, haven't heard them
Riverside - The next Camel. Very melodic and soft but heavy when they supose to, and with 90's Camel voice
Oceansize - haven't heard them either
Mind sky - not yet
Coheed and cambria - The
next Rush. People who listen to them might not know their prog. Kind of
like what happened with Rush at times, plus the vocals
Bonus
Guapo - the underdogs of the genre, keeping things cool and true to the genre. I really like their "about the band" article.
Is it just me?, or is there a pattern in this so called "progressive" rock
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 21:23
Got to be the Mars Volta. Hopefully they will have a long career and be able
to continue their creativity for albums to come.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 21:28
Listening to Wobbler`s Hinterland... and if it is their first album...
Wobbler will be the future of prog.... ( if i have one vote, then this is my vote)
TMV..... i dont like them yet...
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Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 21:33
Almost a toss-up between Riverside and Wobbler for me. I voted
for Wobbler, as Hinterland was an excellent debut and they show lots of
potential. Riverside's first two albums are both excellent as
well.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 21:44
Porcupine Tree anyone?
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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 22:12
All of the ones you listed are good (The Mars Volta are an acquired
taste but they are worth it), but my vote goes to RPWL.
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Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 22:25
GPFR wrote:
Porcupine Tree anyone?
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PT is great, but they're not exactly newcomers.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 22:53
I don't know all the bands that are in this poll, but for me Riverside is really good and I hope to hear a lot more from them.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 22:59
Wobbler and especially Magic Pie are going to go to even greater heights(I hope).
I voted for Magic Pie,great guitar driven symphonic prog.
BTW,I was very impressed with Mind Sky and their debut album Timewise.I look forward to hearing more of them in the future.
If Strangefish would get more exposure they could be pretty popular,their debut album is very good.
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 23:18
Wobbler is excellent, but in many ways the band is the "past of prog"
To me, it is unquestionably The Mars Volta who are the future of prog!
They are a whisker away from glory ... to me, it hangs on the third album being a significant step up and away from what has come before (maybe they should rope in the Wobbler keyboardist to help )
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 23:27
I'm behind on the times then... I have only listened to the Mars Volta out of all those groups...
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 23:28
TheProgtologist wrote:
If Strangefish would get more exposure they could be pretty popular,their debut album is very good.
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I cannot agree more.
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Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 23:38
I voted for Oceansize
Anyone knows Amplifier? They are another prog/post-rock band in the
vein of Oceansize but I just can't find anything about them and can't
find their album.
If anyone knows about them, could they cue me on how they are?
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Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 02:24
Its difficult to say. Riverside is promising, as is
Wobbler but I believe that TMV is the real future
Of prog. I like Wobbler the most and they write
The most genuine 70’s prog from that list.
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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 03:27
Magic Pie
TMV
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 04:27
Inferno wrote:
I voted for Oceansize
Anyone knows Amplifier? They are another
prog/post-rock band in the
vein of Oceansize but I just can't find anything about
them and can't
find their album.
If anyone knows about them, could they cue me on
how they are?
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i know AMPLIFIER and they are excellent. you might
like to check out their "the astronaut dismantles hal"
EP as an introduction?
FWIW i also voted for OCEANSIZE because i like
them best out of the given list. great band!
as for porcupine tree, absolutely, also a favourite of
mine, but difficult to judge whether they are THE
referential new prog band (i wish that it was so!)
since they have been going for a long time now and
cannot really be graded as a complete newcomer.
but their undoubted ability to reinvent themselves
with each release is certainly helpful in keeping
progressive music alive.
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 04:36
pain of salvation ''thats'' the future of progresive rock/metal
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 09:38
Porcupine Tree???
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:02
For me The Mars Volta arent the prog of the future...but from the present...
for me right now "the" young prog bands are
The Mars Volta
Pain of salvation
Riverside
Opeth
...wish there were any new symph band with some new ideas...till then Wobbler are pretty damn good!
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:07
For me its The Mars Volta adn Coheed adn Cambria all the way!
But some to look out for are Opeth, Pagan's Mind etc, but keep an eye out for the old/nu-guard like Porcupine Tree, Tool etc
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Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 17:26
I strongly believe in Magic Pie, their debut deserves more listeners.
TMV ain't exactly new in the market, are they?
Unfortunately I have not heard Riverside yet.
And I hope Circus Maximus manage to find their own path!
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 19:12
Zenith wrote:
TMV ain't exactly new in the market, are they? |
They've only been around for a few years, but this isn't about the
newest bands, it's about the bands who are paving the way for the
future, and TMV is definitely doing that.
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:04
Having heard ALL of those bands and ALL their CD's except Mind Sky, it's quite a hard choice. The four that seem to be the most timeless and classic are Wobbler, The Mars Volta, Riverside, and Magic Pie. These will stand the test of time for sure! If I had to pick I would have to say The Mars Volta is the future of progressive rock. My reasons for saying this are many, but I think it's easy to make the point that the Mars Volta gets attention and could be the breakthrough band, as "In The Court of the Crimson King" for King Crimson perhaps was for prog-rock back in the day. By doing something "progressive" musically by the dictionary sense, the Mars Volta has gained attention, while Wobbler, Magic Pie, and Riverside are all stuck in a certain time period or time periods (even though they make great music). ProgMetal will eventually grow old and run out of ideas (Riverside seems to be in this genre a lot of the time), Wobbler's got the golden age of prog, and Magic Pie seems to sound a little similar to Genesis, Yes, and all sorts of classic rock bands such as Deep Purple. But if classic rock, progmetal, and the golden age of prog-rock were going to take the mainstream media by storm yet again, it would have happened already!!! These three "genres" have been around for a long enough time to do so and they haven't returned.
It's that sense of new invention that the Mars Volta has, which can carry progressive rock at least for a little while. I hope the best for all these bands though, except for Coheed which is just 'MTV rock' to me, I can get the same dissatisfaction by listening to Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance.
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:05
martinprog77 wrote:
pain of salvation ''thats'' the future of progresive rock/metal
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That could be, but the vocalist sounds so much better with the flower kings. He fits in so well.
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Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:26
In my opinion, Radiohead is creating part of the future of prog, but thats not a work for one only band; I think a lot of bands of every part of the world are creating the prog elements of the future. An example: Listen 'cabezas de cera' from mexico.....
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 22:21
moonlapse wrote:
GPFR wrote:
Porcupine Tree anyone?
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PT is great, but they're not exactly newcomers.
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But recently they've changed dierection of there music
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 22:51
I predict guys clad in aluminum foil, and gals in bras and short skirts, all skeet shooting with rayguns....
Mars re-volta?
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 23:22
^So your vision of the future of prog is like something out of Flash Gordon?
Mine happens to be something like this:
Should it be in 9/8?
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 00:43
^ Hey, isn't that the guards of Magog swarming around in the background?
Armageddon outta here!
Better watch it, Cyggie -- there's an angel standing in the sun!
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