the worst you like the most
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Topic: the worst you like the most
Posted By: tortellino
Subject: the worst you like the most
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:33
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Is often easy to discuss with friends or other people interested in the same genre of music and point out the best albums that identify that genre, but... What happens if you go against the flow? Which is the "prog album that everybody loves to hate" that you like the most? Some example of what I see as "commonly hated" albums? I'd put on the table "Abacab", or "Big Generator", or "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason"... ------------- tengo 'na minchia tanta |
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:36
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"A Momentary Lapse Of Reason"... is not worst; |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:46
| There are a couple of very good songs on We Can't Dance. I also like 90125 quite a lot, but I'm not sure if it's that hated. |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:49
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90125!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant album! ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: zaxx
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:53
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"A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" is a nice album... ------------- Destiny... Infinity... Eternity... |
Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 12:59
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"A Momentary Lapse Of Reason" is very good album ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:04
| "Testimony" |
Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:16
I like the modern genesis discography as well.
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:19
Although I've read mediocre reviews of Peter Gabriel's "Us", I absolutely LOVE the album! 
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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:27
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I agree with most of the posts, especially the ones about Genesis and Peter Gabriel...
------------- tengo 'na minchia tanta |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:34
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Lets see...does Octavarium count as a hated album? jejejej No, I dont have any album that is that hated really...thought I do not like at all an album which most fans of the genre like pretty much...Rush´s Counterparts...awful! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: tortellino
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:38
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Counterparts was one of the first three by RUSH that I owned, and I think is not that bad... I bought Roll The Bones almost at the same time, and I like it more, by the way...
------------- tengo 'na minchia tanta |
Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 13:55
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------------- Pylo |
Posted By: calgary669
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 14:09
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I actually like both the Floyd and the Genesis (I'm a Genesis freak after all), but I can't stand the Big Generator one... ------------- What happened to this song we once knew so well??? |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 14:14
| I love "A Momentary..." and "Counterparts". |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 14:24
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I like ALL rush albums- and a Momentray Lapse of Reason, AND Final Cut ------------- |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 14:32
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ELP's 'Brain Salad Surgery' - nr.47 in the prog top 100 I know many people who hate this album(and to make things worse, they completely hate ELP) But now serious: Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
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Posted By: kokoryn
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 14:44
Don't really like it but it's not as bad as many say. As for me it would be Camel's "Breathless". Maybe it's not hated but is definetely underappreciated and unjustifiably bashed for being too poppy. Well, it is poppy but it doesn't make it bad, at least not as much as "Abacab", "Invisible Touch" or "Big Generator". I wouldn't understand if somebody likes any of the three and in the same time says that "Breathless" is cheesy or poppy or whatever. |
tortellino wrote:Posted By: XTChuck
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 15:44
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Rush - Caress of Steel Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Yes - Tormato
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 16:13
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I like 90125 still, probbably because it was my favourite album when i was a kid for some reason (i was an odd kid) so it has a nestalgia element to it for me ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 17:17
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I like Talk and Tormato. I don’t see what’s So bad about them. ------------- "I can't see through my eye lids" |
Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 17:25
Everytime you post something I imagine you speaking in your avatar's voice 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 17:32
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Rush - Power Windows. Yep I like that one.To me its dynamic and stirring rock/prog.To others its an horrid eighties abomination.Second place would be Genesis 'And Then There Were Three' which I also like a lot.And must also mention ELP's 'Pictures At An Exhibition'....I'll get my coat then
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 17:34
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I like the final RENAISSANCE album "Time-Line". Very eighties production
(and cover!), but some excellent compositions. |
Posted By: el_Sethro
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 18:02
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Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity
(I absolutely love this album! "Lines In The Sand" and "Trial Of Tears"
more than make up for "You Not Me" and "Take Away My Pain") Dream Theater - When Dream And Day Unite (I don't see what's wrong with it. The only song I don't like is "The Ones Who Helped To Set The Sun". But "Only A Matter Of Time" is amazing, and I actually like Dominici's voice just as much as LaBrie's) Rush - Hold Your Fire (It has some great songs like "Force Ten", Time Stand Still" and "Turn The Page". It's kind of poppy and different than their older stuff, but no worse, in my opinion) *By the way, this pretty much goes for all of Rush's albums that's about all I can think of at the moment ------------- Who you gonna call? |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 18:06
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Genesis trio, Yes with Rabin, Love Beach are natural choices, I hate late Genesis as well, but I think Rabin Yes was Ok, 2-3 star albums. Another one some people love to hate is Trout Mask Replica, which I love ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 18:08
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I am a big 80's Genesis fan ------------- 
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 18:11
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Land of Cockayne, although it is not a proper Softs album. I also like
Abacab and other early 80s Genesis material. Actually, I think
Invisible Touch was my first Genesis album!
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 18:25
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I love "The ConstruKction of Light". here, most of people hate it. |
Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 20:09
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Genesis-ATTW3 Dream Theater-WDADU Yes-Tormato Rush- all of em ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 20:12
Couldn't agree more! Aside from their first effort, Counterparts is the RUSH album I like the least.
------------- David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light. http://www.myspace.com/aardvarktxusa - Instrumental rock http://www.soundclick.com/aardvarktxusa |
Posted By: ambriz
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 20:16
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Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity Pain Of Salvation - BE (It's perfect, for me) ------------- Progressive music, a kind of life. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 23 2006 at 20:42
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Genesis:
Dream Theater:
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 00:01
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I have always liked: Yes - Union & Talk (only one of their albums i can't listen to is 'Open your eyes'..that is dreadful) Genesis - ALL their 80's & 90's albums Pink Floyd - Atom heart mother, Momentary lapse and Division bell Rush - I love 'Hold your fire' also, I believe it is one of their best IQ - I always liked 'Are you sitting comfortably'...great album! |
Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 00:18
whoa seriously we must be on the same wave length or something. i was going to mention that 'brain salad surgery' was way down on the fav's list but i love that album heaps. also was going to mention 'the final cut' and KC's 'islands' & 'larks tongues' Prog On! ------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right... 
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Posted By: shanocles
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 00:32
...or 'passion play' ( don't worry tull fans, i'm a big fan of this album)------------- if left is wrong i don't wanna be right...
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 00:34
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I love Momentary Lapse Of A Reason... very underrated... ------------- 
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Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 01:56
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The good songs from post-Hackett Genesis make two or three good albums. Down and Out, Burning Rope, Deep in the Motherlode, The Lady Lies, Behind the Lines, Duchess, Guide Vocal, Man of Our Times, Duke's Travels, Duke's End, Me and Sara Jane, Dodo-Lurker, Mama, That's All, Home by the Sea, Second Home by the Sea, Silver Rainbow, Tonight Tonight Tonight, Land of Confusion, Domino, The Brazillian, No Son of Mine, Dreaming While You Sleep, Driving the Last Spike, Fading Lights, The Dividing Line. Sure, not as good as the stuff that came before, but leaving out the sappy love songs and eighties cheese there was still some shining moments there. As for Yes, I really can't get into Big Generator at all. They just went too deep into synthy eightees cheese with that one. But Talk was pretty good. And Union actually grew on me. As for ELP, I like some of Love Beach and a lot of Black Moon, but aside from Pictures at an Exhibition, In the Hot Seat sucks. King Crimson's weakest album is probably Beat. But I'll take that over the worst albums from most other bands. I love everything Pink Floyd ever released as well. I don't think they ever had a bad album. As for Jethro Tull, they kind of lost me after Heavy Horses. Some moments of Brilliance, but it isn't my cup of tea. |
Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 01:58
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I think some of the latter Marillion-works is excellent. I understand that many people signed off Marillion when the big fish left the building, but my opinion is that they were good before, and are good now. ------------- A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!! |
Posted By: progrockgirl
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 02:17
| I think Tormato had some very strong tracks on it, namely On the Silent Wings of Freedom and Release, Release. Madrigal is also very beautiful, as I love the use of harpsichord. |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 02:21
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Styx and Asia! I like the following Asia/Styx songs a lot: Sole Survivor Renegade I saw Styx in concert last summer and they put on a really memorable show. Maybe not entirely prog, compared to Amon Duul II or Can or Van der Graaf Generator, but definitely more prog than a lot of their competition in the 80s. ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 02:29
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for further reading and further disbelief check this
thread 'ere: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.as p?TID=9631&KW=songs+you+hate+to+love ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 03:11
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I like A momentary lapse of reason. It's not great, but still enjoyable. And the song Abacab, too (not the whole album, though) ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 04:43
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It puzzles me to learn that Counterparts is low rated...to me it's one of the best Rush albums!
Anyway, let's move on to the most critical items...
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 04:56
everybody[ok, yes fans ] hate ''drama'',because jon anderson is not in it,which is really a shame because drama is better that '' close to the edge''
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Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 04:58
As a matter of fact you're right, since Trevor Horn does not possess such a pleasant voice... ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 05:16
boy, you truly qualify as an outcast now... but i'm with you, since i have suprisingly little problems with that album, too. "new state of mind", "open your eyes" & "universal garden" are excellent songs and there are a few more good things to discover, but also a lot of dross, which is probably in the majority.. BTW the link in my previous post seems not to work so if you're interested please use the "search"-function and look for the thread "songs you hate to love". enjoy! ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: BiGi
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 10:41
Rightly so...the title track is the song by Yes that struck me the most since Owner of a lonely heart and Changes as concerns freshness and listenability combined with skill and complexity!  ------------- A flower?
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Posted By: Page to Squire
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 14:17
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Works volume 2 ------------- I talk to the wind... It tells me to burn things |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 14:37
I personally cannot think of anything. It seems like I'm so picky about the albums I buy that if I hear a lot of people say an album crappy then I won't buy it.  -------------  
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 16:51
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Well I dont know if hated...but Atom heart mother is my favorite Floyd album! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 18:32
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Jeez, I LOVE 'Drama' i think it is a very strong album.... I also agree about 'Tormato'...'On the silent wings...' and 'Future times/Rejoice' are great songs!! I have said it before, but I also like 'Calling all stations'...it did take a while, but 'The dividing line' and 'one mans fool' are very strong Genesis songs.. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 18:40
| Just for the record - I don't think "Falling Into Infinity" is considered the worst DT record, I've seen lots and lots of enthusiastic opinions on it, and I love it myself. |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 18:47
| I hate Volumen 1 and 2 of Soft Machine. Too overrated IMO. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 21:39
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ELO - (insert album) never understood the bad rap they have here. Is a brief period of disco... done after prog was near dead anyway wipe out nearly a decade of great albums bahhh..... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 02:59
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Probably the only ELP album with no prog on it whatsoever and yet all the music stands up well.Its actually quite an achievment for a major prog band like ELP to make an album like that but few prog fans will agree! |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 09:34
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the division bell pink floyd 90125 yes |
Posted By: Derraine
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 10:00
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The Final Cut? - Great, anti-Thatcherite lyrics. ------------- Witness the man who raves at the wall! |
Posted By: MegaMoog
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 10:50
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ELP- works I and II but I love Works live Yes - Tormato and I am sure that everyone is going to hate me
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Posted By: Crimsoner
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 11:00
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emmmm
I can't think of more... ------------- Just BE! |