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Topic: Collaborators Top 5 Albums of 2005
Posted By: Tony R
Subject: Collaborators Top 5 Albums of 2005
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:24
Prog Archives Collaborators’ Top 5 Albums Of 2005:
The inaugural Collaborators annual top 5 certainly has a controversial edge to it. Some commentators might be of the view that 3 of the 5 albums aren’t even Prog Rock, but there can be no denying the freshness and vitality that Porcupine Tree, Opeth and TMV bring to the scene. Traditional Prog Rock is represented by “Present” from the re-emergent VDGG and Wobbler’s paean to the 70’s “classic era”. There was very little between the top 3 albums and in all over 80 albums were nominated.
1. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7289">
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=290 - – Deadwing.
This album follows the pattern (plan?) of PT’s albums getting progressively heavier musically, but still managing to be Prog Rock. A real grower it features emergent Porcupine Tree classics such as Halo, Deadwing, Open Car, Lazarus and the fans-favourite Arriving Somewhere But Not Here. To quote reviewer Bryan Adair:” Deadwing has the best flow of any release they've made since Signify…recommended for all music fans, but hardcore progheads may frown upon it.”
2. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7535">
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=343 - - Present.
Twenty –Seven years VDGG fans have waited for a new studio release and they weren’t to be disappointed. Two CDs “Songs” and “Improvs” prove that musically they still have what it takes and in Hammill they have a vocalist who transcends time. Choice tracks include Nutter Alert, Every Bloody Emperor and the sax-driven instrumental Boleas Panic.
“I was hooked! Right from the first moment Hammill's vocals filled my speakers and ears, shivers ran down my spine , goose bumps stated appearing all over my starved body” enthused Prog Archives own Hugues Chantraine
3. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=8133">
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1122 - - Ghost Reveries
Seen as a more honest representation of Opeth’s Prog Rock credentials than the well-received but restrained Damnation, this album is almost the perfect synthesis of Death Metal and Prog. Open-minded prog-fans will be able to see beyond the growls and enjoy the joyous power-prog of such tracks as Ghost of Perdition and The Baying Of The Hounds as well the exotic Atonement and quirky The Grand Conjuration. “Highly recommended album, intelligent music for progressive metal lovers of all ages, only those suffering from chronic allergic reactions to progressive death metal should stay far away from Ghost Reveries.” Reported PA Prog-Metal Specialist Vanwarp.
4. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7305">
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1033 - - Frances The Mute
Seen by many as the future of Prog Rock this TMV magnum opus has certainly helped re-awaken mainstream press interest in our favourite genre. The 30 minute epic Cassandra Gemmini will tell you everything you need to know about TMV and more besides.
As PA Collaborator Kurt Zander put it:” stop reading this review and go buy this, whooaaaaah!!” Quite.
5. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=8030">
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1698 - – Hinterland
Brimming with Mellotron and unabashed 70’s prog references this is an album that most Prog Rock fans should enjoy immensely. The title track Hinterland is the best of a very good bunch and clocks in at a very pleasant 27 minutes.
“This album harkens back to the glory days of symphonic prog and is a must have for your prog collection” stated PA’s The Progtologist back in July.
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Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:33
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:48
An interesting selection
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 13:25
Winter Wine wrote:
An interesting selection |
Not really much of an "interesting" selection. These were all standout albums
that deserved to be in the top 5. I would have chose them all (with the
exception of Wobbler, for not hearing it) just in a different order.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 13:34
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 15:00
Not my top 5 of the year, although pretty consensual choices. I personaly give a honourable mention to Riverside's "Second Life Syndrome" and Kate Bush's "Aerial".
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 15:15
 ...some interesting choices...
I must admit, I wondered what you lot did in there....
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Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 15:24
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 15:34
I'll probably post the Top 15 at some stage,but for now let's let the Top 5 be the topic of conversation....
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 15:41
No Shadow Gallery
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 16:57
No Neal Morse! 
No Roine Stolt! 
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Posted By: Mahonster
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 17:09
I must say that I can't help but agree that Deadwing was the album of 2005
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:18
Bah. I tried to rig things by voting for the Residents as my no 1 choice but it just wasn't going to happen, was it?
Anyway, good to see 3 of my choices there at least.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:56
I still have to hear Wobbler and Van Der Graaf Generator, but the other three are surely in my top list.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 19:05
Only one of my choices made the top 5 (VDGG). It's a good selection of contemporary progressive rock, although the absence of Guapo is a bit of a mystery (or am I biased?).
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 19:18
Trouserpress wrote:
Bah. I tried to rig things by voting for the Residents
as my no 1 choice but it just wasn't going to happen, was it?
Anyway, good to see 3 of my choices there at least.
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Which 3?
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 19:21
TMV IN TOP 5.... YES.
Otherwise, couldn't say much for other albums.
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 11:45
Kotro wrote: my top 5 of the year, although pretty consensual choices. I
personaly give a honourable mention to Riverside's "Second Life
Syndrome" and Kate Bush's "Aerial".
Yup, Aerial was on my list - a cd-long concept piece. Perfectly
conceived and executed. Defintely one of the standout albums of the
year for me. Just unfortunate that not enough of the other collabs
thought so too... Shame on them
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 14:52
All pretty safe and mainstream. What were the top 5 jazz fusion albums, Tony?
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:11
FragileDT wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Bah. I tried to rig things by voting for the Residents
as my no 1 choice but it just wasn't going to happen, was it?
Anyway, good to see 3 of my choices there at least.
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Which 3? |
Van Der Graaf, Volta and Wobbler.
I also voted for Animal Lover by the Residents and Fantomas' Suspended Animation.
...oooh hang on. I voted for Guapo too, I seem to recall. Maybe I didn't vote for Wobbler after all.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:12
Dick Heath wrote:
All pretty safe and mainstream. What were the top 5 jazz fusion albums, Tony?
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What did you expect, Dick? This isn't fusion archives, much as you may prefer it. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:14
^ more importantly: The TMV album is not exactly safe or mainstream.
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:35
Only in this crowd would TMV ever seem "mainstream"
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 16:41
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 17:06
Madonna, Shakira, Ricky Martin, Robbie Williams, The Mars Volta
which of these artists is the least mainstream one?
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 17:57
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Madonna, Shakira, Ricky Martin, Robbie Williams, The Mars Volta
which of these artists is the least mainstream one?
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Ricky Martin. Duh.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 19:56
Empathy wrote:
Only in this crowd would TMV ever seem "mainstream"
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I'll give you that - and that album was
somewhere in my top X. But as several of us voted for albums beyond the
safety net of mainstream prog - I think that was a fair question!
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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 21:17
I think that one factor that may have influenced the list is that it takes time to wade through albums and I think by now I have heard only around 10 new prog albums for 2005 ... for eg, I'll only get to hear the Kate Bush a little later because it's not out yet in Malaysia ...
I know that this year, I fell in love with IQ's Dark Matter which was released in 2004 ... so I wouldn't have voted for it in a 2004 list even though I now think it's one of the best albums of the decade
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 21:19
I'm sad, yet not surprised to see that neither Pallas's The Dreams of Men nor Pendragon's Believe are on the list. 
If it were a top 10 list, one or both should have been there. 
It appears that the collabs don't find neo-prog yummy...
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 21:56
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 21:57
stonebeard wrote:
I'm sad, yet not surprised to see that neither Pallas's The Dreams of Men nor Pendragon's Believe are on the list. 
If it were a top 10 list, one or both should have been there. 
It appears that the collabs don't find neo-prog yummy...
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I had Believe on mine as well as Pepper's Ghost mind you!
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 22:19
Good for you, Cyggie. 
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 06:05
I was very disappointed with Pepper's Ghost Cyggie. It just lacks that indescribable "something". Its on my re-listen list for 2006 though.
As for Pallas' Dreams Of Men,well it starts out a killer and you think that it is going to be a classic album.Then it just flatlines...............
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 07:05
Hmmm...
I haven't heard the new Arena yet, but the Pallas was very good IMO, and doesn't flatline as you put it Tony. Just my opinion. 
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 10:40
Too bad Glass Hammer's The Inconsolable Secret didn't make the cut. It's
definitely one of 2005's most amibitious and best sounding progressive
works.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 10:46
stonebeard wrote:
Hmmm...
I haven't heard the new Arena yet, but the Pallas was very good IMO, and doesn't flatline as you put it Tony. Just my opinion. 
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And just as relevant as my own.However,to declare my Pallas credentials,I did buy Arrive Alive in 1982 and The Sentinel on day of release?
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 13:30
Tony:
Do you want a cookie?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 13:41
Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 14:21
Cool choices, I'm hoping to pick up Wobbler's album soon.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:15
Trouserpress wrote:
Bah. I tried to rig things by voting for the Residents as my no 1 choice but it just wasn't going to happen, was it?
Anyway, good to see 3 of my choices there at least.
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I haven't heard Animal Lover yet ... but I'm pretty sure that even if the both of us would have put it on the no. 1 spot (mine was Suspended Animation now), we still couldn't have made it happen... 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:33
Cinema:
I'm glad you mentioned Glass Hammer's new album. It completely slipped my mind! I must say that if certain albums are on the list that harken back to the "glory days" of prog (ie. the 70s) like the VDGG and the Wobbler albums, then I certainly hope The Inconsolable Secret is not far behind. 
BTW: I've been so caught up retracing the past, that I haven gotten any of the albums in the top 5. 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:34
BTW: I seem to be having trouble quoting members in this thread, which is why I haven't done so in awhile. The page loads, but the text isn't displayed. 
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 15:53
Yeah, that's been happening to me too lately. What browser are you using Stonebeard? I'm on Firefox 1.0.7.
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 20:15
several people have mentioned Glass Hammer's Inconsolable Secret. I for
one thought long and hard about it as GH are one of my favourite modern
prog bands. However, I couldn't find it in my heart to find a place for
it in my top 5. I just think it's flawed in several ways. The second CD
is pretty extraneous, for me, and the epics on the first CD fall
a bit flat. They're just over ambitious and sound slightly feeble in
parts. The lyrics, too, are abominable, marring the listening
experience more than usual. It's good, just not great, certainly not in
the league of TMV's album (which just gets better and better) or
Porcupine Tree etc.
Close, but no cigar...
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Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 20:17
BTW I'm on Firefox 1.0.4 and I'm having the same quoting problems, also it won't let me edit posts either. Any explanation?
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2006 at 20:30
arcer wrote:
BTW I'm on Firefox 1.0.4 and I'm having the same quoting
problems, also it won't let me edit posts either. Any explanation?
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I've just quoted you using Firefox 1.07.
Maybe you need to update?
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 01:36
Tony R wrote:
I was very disappointed with Pepper's Ghost Cyggie. It just lacks that indescribable "something". Its on my re-listen list for 2006 though.
As for Pallas' Dreams Of Men,well it starts out a killer and you think that it is going to be a classic album.Then it just flatlines...............
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Although it was a bit of a departure from Immortal? and The Visitor, I feel it still is a strong album, not as strong as say... Believe or Side One.
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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 01:52
What about OCTAVARIUM??? 
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Posted By: elusive shadow
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 04:36
The Best prog album of 2005 is The Fullness Of Time - Redemption! You must hear this!
Very good class are:
Neal Morse-?
Carptree-Man Made Machine
Tomas Bodin-I AM
Arena-Pepper`s Ghost
Allen/Lande-The Battle (melody power,not exactly prog)
Dream Theater-Octavarium
Riverside-Second Life Syndrome
Circus Maximus-The 1st Chapter
Magic Pie-Motions Of Desire
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Posted By: Gatot
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 07:21
GREAT WORK, Tony!!!!
It's not what I thought but I was not involved during vote due to work schedule was really tight. I wonder that "Frances The Mute" is here, because I don't think it deserves. Their previous album is better. Deadwing? It's not the best album by PT - so I'm wondering why it's number one? And why NEAL MORSE "One" is not here?
WOBBLER deserves it. Yeah! VdGG is OK without disc 2 which is so boring.
BTW, I fully RESPECT the team decision with this TOP 5. Most importantly we start new thing this new year. Congrats!!!!
Gatot
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Posted By: Carlos Perez
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 11:34
Echolyn - The End is Beautiful
is
missing here!!!!!!!

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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 11:48
Frances should be number 1, but 4th place is good too.
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 12:28
^ Logos, I couldn't agree more.
Gatot wrote:
GREAT WORK, Tony!!!!
It's not what I thought but I was not involved during vote due to work schedule was really tight. I wonder that "Frances The Mute" is here, because I don't think it deserves. Their previous album is better. Deadwing? It's not the best album by PT - so I'm wondering why it's number one? And why NEAL MORSE "One" is not here?
WOBBLER deserves it. Yeah! VdGG is OK without disc 2 which is so boring.
BTW, I fully RESPECT the team decision with this TOP 5. Most importantly we start new thing this new year. Congrats!!!!
Gatot
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Do you mean Neal Morse's "?"?
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Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: January 07 2006 at 23:45
I miss...
Riverside - Second Life Syndrome
Shadow Gallery - Room V
Anyway, I think Ghost Reveries is the best of those 5, and Opeth's album or TMV one deserves more than Deadwing the number 1 position, although, of course, Deadwing must be in the top five.
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Posted By: Schizoid Man
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 00:25
The Top Ten should have
Riverside's "Second Life Syndrome"
Neal Morse's "?"
They are worthy imho!
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Posted By: NegativeTrend
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 20:01
Machine And The Synergetic Nuts - Leap Second Neutral seems to be missing...
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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: January 08 2006 at 20:36
i'm also having teh quoting problem...but i dunno which browser i'm using?
my top 5:
1. Frances the Mute
2. Ghost Reveries
3. Deadwing (just heard it though...)
4. Second Life Syndrome
5. ???? don't think i've hearde another this year...
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Posted By: wowie
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 09:35
hello, good thread to start
here are some lists from the TFlowerK forum:
Spock's Beard - Octane Kaipa - Mindrevolutions Opeth - Ghost Reveries Riverside - Second Life Syndrome The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute
or
1. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing 2. Opeth - Ghost Reveries -3. Neal Morse - ? - 4. Blackfield - 5. Sigur Ros - Takk - 6. The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute -
peoples talk: Echolyn - The End is beautiful / KINO - Picture / Neal Morse - ? / dredg - Catch Without Arms / My Morning Jacket - Z / Coheed & Cambria - ApolloiV / Glass Hammer - the inconsolable secret
my 2005 pick (down to 5;) where are your other 65 picks Tony? ) would be:
Tomas Bodin - I A M / Aisles - The Yearning / Sieges Even - t.a.o.n.b.t.s. / BrockenSocialScene - BSS / dredg or My Morning Jacket
special mention to: Under Byen, Product, R. Fripp, A.Belew and Redemption ( killer! ), LAdyLake - SuperCleanDreamMAchine, Overhead - Meta...
keep rockin'n'lovin in 2006 :)
christian
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 20:39
SirPsycho388 wrote:
What about OCTAVARIUM???  |
But we were voting on the GOOD albums of 2005.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 21:53
Posted By: weedeatersquid
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 10:05
album #4 The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute.
Incredible. Nuff said.
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Posted By: Wilson
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 10:44
Interesting to compare this with the top 10 for 2005 culled from the overall most popular list http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?MostPopular= 250 The top three are definitely my top three.  It would be fun to have a way to automatically generate lists like this for every year...
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4.35

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3.85

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4.69

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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 11 2006 at 11:22
hmm,
only album I miss is :
Dark Suns - Existence
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Posted By: luc4fun
Date Posted: January 12 2006 at 05:58
I have 3 out of the 5 best albums of 2005....not bad!
I would have also added Dracula (PFM)...
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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: January 12 2006 at 06:29
http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?year=2005 - http://www.progarchives.com/top-prog-albums.asp?year=2005
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Posted By: porcupine_boy
Date Posted: January 12 2006 at 19:42
I
agree in all these albums and their positions but, in my opinion, you
forgot to mention Oceansize "Everything Into Position", Dream Theater
"Octavarium" and Meshuggah "Catch 33"
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 13:08
porcupine_boy wrote:
I agree in all these albums and their positions but, in my opinion, you forgot to mention Oceansize "Everything Into Position", Dream Theater "Octavarium" and Meshuggah "Catch 33"
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Well it was a Top 5 and you agree with all the positions....
Here is the TOP 80 ,in order (but alpahbetical where equal votes)
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing |
VDGG - present |
Opeth - Ghost Reveries |
The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute |
Wobbler - Hinterland |
Izz - My River Flows |
Pendragon - Believe |
Fantomas - Suspended Animation |
Shadow Gallery - Room V |
Guapo - Black Oni |
Sigur Ros - Takk |
Kate Bush - Aeriel |
Magic Pie - Motions Of Desire |
Arena - Pepper's Ghost |
Ulver - Blood Inside |
Echolyn - The End is Beautiful |
Adrian Belew - Side One |
Allan Holdsworth - Against The Clock |
Djam Karet - Recollection Harvest |
Kayak - Nostradamus |
Machine And The Synergetic Nuts - Leap Second Neutral |
Meshuggah - Catch 33 |
Pallas - Dreams Of Men |
Riverside - Second Life Syndrome |
RPWL - World Through My Eyes |
Soft Machine - Out-Bloody-Ragous |
The Residents - Animal Lover |
Traffic Sound - GREATEST HITS |
K2 - Book Of The Dead |
Nima & Merge - Separate Worlds |
David Cross - Closer Than Skin |
Hidria Spacefolk - Live Eleven a.m |
Indukti - SUSAR |
kRé - El Radio Está en la Cocina |
Liquid Scarlet- II |
Roine Stolt - Wallstreet Voodoo |
Salem Hill - Mimi's Mad Moment |
Steve Hackett - Metamorpheus |
Adrian Belew - Side Two |
Arcturus - Sideshow Symphonies |
Dream Theater - Octavarium |
Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know |
KOENJIHYAKKEI - Angherr Shisspa |
Oceansize - Everyone Into Position |
Steve Hackett - Live Archives |
Kamelot - The Black Halo |
Anti Depressive Delivery - Anti Depressive Delivery |
Cryptic Vision - Live At Rosfest |
Dredg - Catch Without Arms |
Frogg Cafe - Fortunate Observer of Time |
Kingston Wall - Real Live Thing |
Neal Morse - ? |
Quantum Fantasy - Agapanthustra |
Stream of Passion - Embrace the Storm |
Amplifier - The Astronaut Dismantles HAL |
Cro Magnon - Brosella suite |
Dark Suns - Existence |
dEUS - Pocket Revolution |
Exsimio Carbono 14 |
Glass Hammer - The Inconsolable Secret |
James LaBrie - Elements of Persuation |
Pineapple Thief - 10 Stories Down |
Wigwam - Some Several Moons |
A Silver Mt. Zion - Horses in the Sky |
Brian Eno - Another Day on Earth |
Dead Soul Tribe - The Dead Word |
Green Carnation - The Quiet Offspring |
John Petrucci - Suspended Animation |
Kaipa - Mindrevolutions |
Kino - Picture |
Mercury Rev - The Secret Migration |
Mostly Autumn - Storms Over Still Water |
Roger Waters - Ca Ira |
Royal Hunt - Paper Blood |
Sigh - Gallows Gallery |
Spock's Beard - Octane |
Steve Vai - Real Illusions: Reflections |
Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft |
Toby Driver - In the L..L..Library Loft |
Tomas Bodin - I Am

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 13:36
What I've heard this year:
6. Izz: My River Flows
7. Pendragon "Believe"
23. Pallas "The Dreams of Men"
41. Dream Theater "Ocatvarium"
46. Kamelot "The Black Halo"
60. Glass Hammer "The Inconsolable Secret"
Red = Mildly Disagree With Position
Blue = Incredibly Disagrees With Position

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Posted By: Chris_Kemp
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 13:42
Echolyn remains underrated and underappreciated. No "The End is Beautiful"? 
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Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 13:53
Dracula is excellent. Too bad PFM released so late in the year. This is my album of the year!!!!!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 13 2006 at 16:58
^ Echolyn are at number 16 (if I've counted right).
What are Soft Machine doing there?
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Posted By: beebs
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 18:30
I'm all for Deadwing as the #1 CD of 2005, but conspiculously missing is 'Second Life Syndrome' (as others have echoed) by Riverside. Haven't heard enough of the others to argue their merit or lack of it.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: January 15 2006 at 18:40
Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know
these guys are crazy...
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: January 16 2006 at 10:59
I have to say, though, I am pretty surprised to see Sigur Ros's Takk... so high up there. It came out pretty late in the year, I didn't think it would be recognized as much as it was. Then, of course, there was Neal Morse's ?, which I expected to be WAY higher. WAY higher.
Eh, oh well. 
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Posted By: slipperman
Date Posted: January 19 2006 at 15:07
NO COMPLAINTS!
I have and enjoy all 5 of those albums. Especially nice to see Wobbler make it. So there is great new prog coming out in the 2000s after all. For those of us usually stuck in the '70s, that's a nice thing.
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Posted By: Keke
Date Posted: January 19 2006 at 15:38
I'm very pleased that Ulver made it so high in the list. Perhaps they aren't as overlooked as I had thought.
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 01:24
What about system of a down's mezmerize?...  
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 03:09
OK so what were the top 5 of 2004 and the year before that? Sorry but I only joined in mid 2005.
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Posted By: Rochacrimson
Date Posted: January 20 2006 at 10:57
VDGG is the great return of 2005.
We want more VDGG albuns in the future!
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 21 2006 at 12:44
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: January 21 2006 at 12:45
aapatsos wrote:
Ephel Duath - Pain Necessary to Know
these guys are crazy...
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I am just getting into them.What a great prog metal band.
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Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 08:06
Let's not forget this fantastic debut from a band that will bring us genuine prog in the years to come:

 Motions Of Desire 2005

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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 12:29
Zenith wrote:
Let's not forget this fantastic debut from a band that will bring us genuine prog in the years to come:

 Motions Of Desire 2005

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Add to that Wobbler and Mind Sky...
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 12:41
Ok, fair choice but where is DT? Surely their album is better than VDGG!
I know there have been some other bands like Pagan's mind and Shadow gallery, Biomechanical, Co&Ca, Angra and John Petrucci that may not be included but defently DT should be in the top 5!
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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 00:06
What about my favorite???

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 02:09
There's a complete list on the previous page ... Octavarium is ranked somewhere in the middle ... of the 80 albums that got votes
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Posted By: Yito
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 13:53
Best album of the year:
Riverside Second Life Syndrome
Best song of the year:
Octavarium¡¡¡ http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=9336 -
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Posted By: KansasRushDream
Date Posted: January 27 2006 at 22:05
The Black Halo should've definitely made this list in my opinion. Masterpiece.
I would like to say Octavarium, but it's too widely debated about whether it's really a "great" album or not.
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Posted By: labbai
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 16:51
I Think System Of Down Did 2 great albums last year...njah...
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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 17:39
Motions of Desire is my favorite album of 2005 without a doubt.
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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 06 2006 at 17:53
glad you jumped on the bandwagon great debut looking forward to their next album due out in april
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 22:18
Space Dimentia wrote:
Ok, fair choice but where is DT? Surely their
album is better than VDGG!
I know there have been some other bands like Pagan's mind and Shadow
gallery, Biomechanical, Co&Ca, Angra and John Petrucci that may not be
included but defently DT should be in the top 5! |
I don't think so. Octavarium is a mediocre Dream Theater album. Both Volta
and VDGG far surpassed Octavarium in my book.
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But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Posted By: Rorro
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 11:00
I did't listen to wobbler's and VDGG's albums but the other are top 10 at least, i would include Neal Morse's album too
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Posted By: Goldenavatar
Date Posted: February 10 2006 at 16:49
Hmmm, none of those would make my top 5 (or probably even 10). Although I am unfamiliar with a couple of them, Wobbler for instance, though I am quite interested in hearing them. I've noticed a definite Metal leaning of most of the people who say they listen to prog. Which is totally fine, but where are all the symphonic nuts?
In my opinion Glass Hammer was very slighted in this list. The musicianship alone puts them far above Porcupine Tree. And I like Porcupine Tree, don't get me wrong, but they don't hold a candle as far a musicianship is concerned, again in my humble opinion.
I am upset, but not surprised, to see some excellent albums missing.
Mimi's Magic Moment by Salem Hill
Welcome Humans by Thirteen of Everything
Fortunate Observer of Time by Frogg Cafe
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Posted By: AfanSpur
Date Posted: February 10 2006 at 21:21
Only heard TMV Frances and Deadloss sorry Deadwing by Porcupine 'we hate prog' Tree.
IMHO there is a big difference and Frances is the standout album. Deadloss erm sorry wing is ok and has it's moments but am i the only person to find it a bit dreary?
I wouls not be surprised that in the future the PT album the lostdead sorry lostwing no,no, dead wing will be revised downwards and that Frances will be hailed as a classic. It took Vivaldi 200 years to be recognised so theres plenty of time.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 12 2006 at 01:25
AfanSpur wrote:
Only heard TMV Frances and Deadloss sorry Deadwing by Porcupine 'we hate prog' Tree.
IMHO there is a big difference and Frances is the standout album. Deadloss erm sorry wing is ok and has it's moments but am i the only person to find it a bit dreary?
I wouls not be surprised that in the future the PT album the lostdead sorry lostwing no,no, dead wing will be revised downwards and that Frances will be hailed as a classic. It took Vivaldi 200 years to be recognised so theres plenty of time.
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I take it you don't like Porcupine Tree?
That's ok because I don't like The Mars Revolting...errrr.....Volta.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 12:21
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:56
I own the number one favourite "Deadwing". The others I have not yet heard. "Deadwing" is a well chosen number one and I dare say that the others are all up there, however, I would like to have seen Glass Hammers' "The Inconsolable Secret" and Kate Bush's "Aerial" further up the ranks.
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Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 22:46
Bought the Wobbler album in response to this list. I'm not disappointed.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 05:53
I'm amazed at the number of people that have said that Octavarium deserves to be in the top 5, this is the worst album that they have released from the 6 that I have and I cant see FII and WDADU being worse from the few songs that I've heard.
BTW is there a list for 2004 as well.
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