Yes, post 70s
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Topic: Yes, post 70s
Posted By: Winter Wine
Subject: Yes, post 70s
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:28
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I have been listening to yes for a few years now and for a good while haven't been listening to them much This time last year I was given "magnification" by a friend for my birthday, I thought it was ok and never really got into it, but now I can honestly say that it has become one of my favourite yes albums! yes, it actually took a full YEAR to finally really see it for what it is, an excellent album, different than the 70s in both sound and style (which is most likely why it didn't interest me in the first place So then I decided to buy the "yes symphonic dvd", and again, brilliant!! Now what I want to know is, what albums from the 80s - 90s period are good? I've heard "keystudio" is great but i'm not sure what it is! is it a collection or an actual album?!! My knowledge of yes in the 90s is next to nothing. I don't even know the line-ups. So whats the stuff like around that era fellow yes fans??! ------------- My computer's broke |
, I was very young when I heard them first , but when I was younger I didn't have all the money I would have liked to! so I got what I thought was the important yes albums from the 60s and 70s, All I didn't have was "Tormato" and "Drama" (although I think that was 80)
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:40
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"Keystudio" is a collection of the studio tracks from "Keys To
Ascension" volumes I and II, which themselves contain new studio and
live recordings. Both are excellent, there is an epic studio track
called "Mind drive" which is worth getting. Personally I'd buy the
original Keys albums as the live recordings of old faves like Starship
Trooper are worth having. The Ladder is also worth getting, but Open Your Eyes, although I've never heard it, is supposed to be among their worst albums. |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:43
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Regarding "open your eyes" i've heard that it IS their worst album It's odd how "keystudio" is a collection of songs from just two albums! ------------- My computer's broke |
chopper wrote:Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:48
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Adding to the above, the 2 "Keys to Ascension" albums were positioned
as live albums with a few new studio tracks thrown in, kind of like extras. Rick Wakeman is on record as wanting the positioning to have been reversed— he wanted them to be new Yes albums from the reunited band, sold at a single CD price, with the live tracks included as a no- extra-cost bonus. I couldn't agree more with Rick. Two albums of live material, most of which had already been released live, simply suggested that Yes was effectively over; bonus studio tracks are often for "die-hards and completists only." The reality is that the studio tracks, particularly those on volume II, are really good, much better than The Ladder, IMHO. They would have made a better statement about the overall creative vitality of the band than the retread live tracks did. Oh, well.... |
Posted By: Gianthogweed
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 11:52
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Yes post seventies is a mixed bag of good and bad. Here are some of the good ones. Drama - Very good album despite the fact that Jon is not on vocals. Some of their best songs are here, including Machine Messiah and Tempus Fugit. The rest of the songs are also good, but overall it's not as strong an album as their mid-seventies stuff, but then again, nothing else they did is. Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe - Like Drama this one is very good, with some classics like Brother of Mine, Themes, Fist of Fire, and Birthright. It's a little bit stronger than Drama. Talk - This is probably the best of the Rabin albums. Endless Dream is a very good epic in the same vein as Awaken, and Real Love and The Calling are also good. Keys to Ascension 1 & 2 - These were live albums from the Anderson White Wakeman Howe Squire reunion from 1996. But it also contained 75 minutes of new studio material, which was some of the best music Yes ever recorded. Keystudio is a compilation of just those studio tracks without the live versions. It's probably their best album since Going for the One. It contains 2 20 minute epics, Mind Drive, which is similar to classic Yes prog, and That That Is which is a little bit different from anything else they had done. The Ladder - Another strong album, not quite as good as Keys, but with some really good songs. Homeworld was actually written as part of a soundtrack to the game of the same name. And you already heard Magnification. I should also mention 90125 because it was their most commercially successful album, and had some good songs. But it's not as progressive as the other albums so I'm not sure you'll like it as much. Tormato also has some great moments on it, and I would rate it just as high as most of the albums I listed above. |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:03
Well that's good news, some of them now sound like they are worth looking out for! What would you rate the albums you've mentioned? including magnification ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:16
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Gianthogweed pretty much summed it up - none of it's as good as their seventies stuff, but then not much is. I would probably give them all 3 stars. Drama is probably the best of the ones Gianthogweed mentioned, Talk is also pretty good if you like the Rabin stuff. Also, Big Generator is not as bad as some people make out. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:20
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Yeah Big generator is good, I like Open Your eyes too, great album....*ducks* ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 12:31
| the only good thing yes made after 1977 was Drama. An underated Yes record |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 13:37
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I like Drama and the late 90s stuff, but haven't heard Tormato, Big Generator, Open Your Eyes, all of 90125, Talk and whatever else, but I don't have the biggest desire to. And Onion...haven't heard that yet. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 13:45
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I love Magnification as well. There are 2 or 3 songs that are mediocre pop
songs and shouldn't have been included in the long album, but other than that it is a great album. If you don't have Drama I suggest you get it. It's a very good album without Jon Anderson. Sometimes you can't even tell he's gone  . I don't like any of the Rabin era albums much at all. Some are
okay pop-rock songs, but nothing progressive. Tormato is also a great album IMO. If you don't have it I would suggest picking it up (though it is a 70s Yes album.) ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 16:04
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Hmmm, I like don't go from magnification, pop or not Drama and tormato are sounding better every day ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 16:09
The Keys To Ascension are amazing...great albums,probably their best achievement after the 70's... ...Mind
Drive from Volume II is one of my favourite...and pieces like Going For
The One,I Seen All Good People etc. are played probably (IMO) in their
best way live...
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 16:15
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Excellent! Well I think i'll get get the two "Keys to ascension" albums, I wanna hear more from my favourite prog band ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 17:36
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Magnification is nearly a great YES album, easily their best since the halcyon days.Drama as mentioned is a very good Yes album with some outstanding tracks in ' Machine Messiah' 'White Car' and 'Into the Lens' despite Trevor using a voice synthesizer to sound like the great man.Keys to Ascencion is a brilliant live album with some not so good studio tracks.The Ladder is for me with Open Your eyes as bad as it gets with only Universal Garden from the latter and Homeworld from the former the exceptions on these albums,Tormato; although the start from their fall from the zenith is still in comparison to the Rabinesque years a fine album.But enjoy what has been recommended I still love the two early albums before they gave us the six unbeatable gems that were to follow. |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 17:50
Well your the first person to tell me that "The ladder" is a bad album, I kind of guessed with open your eyes though. I love the first two records too. Their debut is one of my favourite yes albums ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:18
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After GFTO in my opinion Talk is the best album that I know (not counting the live DVD "Symphonic Live"). Not everything on this album is fantastic, but especially the three longer tracks are marvelous. I agree with Winter Wine that Endless Dream can be compared to Awaken in quality. I would also like to specially mention "I am Waiting" which is really beautiful and emotional. Other albums I think are really nice: ABWH, Magnification The rest I think is not really worth getting |
Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 18:34
| I don't know anything worth a buy from yes after Tormato (besides the live albums, special editions, rmst, etc. Maybe Keystudio, but I don't listen to this album a lot to submit a fair review of it. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 01:41
I'll be interested in your opinion  -------------
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 04:20
| I really like 90125, the Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, Howe album and the live tracks from Keys To Ascension (1) . |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 05:42
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I think Drama, 90125 and Talk are all very good albums. I couldn't really get into 'Big Generator' it seemed a step backwards from even 90125!! I turned my back on Yes for along time, and it was only after joining this forum over a year ago, that I dug out my old albums and got back into them. I proceeded to expand my collection, adding Fragile, The Yes album, Toramto & Relayer to what I already had. Apart from Talk I've not heard any of their non Rabin 90's work. I'll get round to it, but there is so much music to buy, and I'm more inclined to give priority to bands I've not heard before. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 06:21
I'll let ya know Ricochet ------------- My computer's broke |
Posted By: Thufir Hawat
Date Posted: January 09 2006 at 18:35
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I also love “magnification”, and Yes “Keystudios” is very good, but it may take you a while to get into that as well. “Drama” is also excellent as is “The Ladder”, it is a little different but still good. ------------- "I can't see through my eye lids" |