Warchild album 1 v Warchild album 2
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Topic: Warchild album 1 v Warchild album 2
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Warchild album 1 v Warchild album 2
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 16:52
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The original Warchild album was a bit disappointing, but had the occasional cool track, but I think the album of outtakes(Warchild 2) is alot stronger, heavier, and more prog. More hammond organ and better vocals in the outtakes I think. I think the outtake album is similar to Aqualung with it's medievil heavy rock and acoustics. I actually prefer Warchild 2 over the original Aqualung album. That is how good the bouns stuff is WARCHILD 1 you can get a good glimpse of these songs at my site below |
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 16:58
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I've always loved War Child album and its peculiar strong orchestral arrengements! My favourite tracks: Sealion, Two Fingers P.S. agree with you that the outtakes are stunning! (Paradise Steakhouse and Rainbow Blues in particular!) |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:01
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how nice is quartet and warchild waltz? lovely I love saturation for its heaviness and ians powerful singing and cool hammond organ I love sealion 2 for it's proginess and monty python silliness and more |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:06
| Yeah, Qartet and Warchild Waltz are very prog...I think Jethro Tull then would have had to release a double album! The same goes for the 1982 year. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:08
| yes 1982 and also 1971 ;) |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:09
i think sealion 2 is better than sealion 1 because it is more proggy and you can tell ian is being silly. But in sealion 1, Ian seems serious but the lyrics are cheesy  . Have u heard the bungle remix? Ians voice is alot meaner. I can't listen to the other bungle lol
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:14
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Agree again. What about those "never released" tracks they only used to play live? as for example: Tomorrow Was Today, Hard-Hearted English General, Sailor...? I have a dream: JT performing those tracks in a new live album (or another studio one!) I haven't listened to that "bungle-remix": did it was released in a box set? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:19
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tomorrow and hard were from aqualung year i think. sailor and untitled instrumental were from a passion play chateau disaster tapes. Untitled instrumental is great. There are 2 songs from Warchild called Beaches part 1 and Beaches part 1 which are still unreleased. This thread is an example why i think Tull were half as popular as they should be and if albums like this, Aqaulung, Broadsword were released as doubles, I think people would be bigger tull fans. I bet u didnt know about the beaches and untitles instrumemntal songs |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:08
I don't think anyone is familiar with the missing and better warchild 2 and aqualung 2 
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 05:10
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Put in another vote for warchild 2. I'm a big fan of those songs. That is like a long lost classic album. I wasn't fond of Warchild back in the 70s, but the remaster has proven the band had not dropped off the pace at all. Pity Ian and the boys didn't decide on a very different set list when the album came out in 1974. It could have been a fantastic album and a similar album to A passion play, but strangely they chose the more commercial pieces from a large group containing more powerful pieces of music. But I have regained alot more respect and enjoyment from the band in recent times |
Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 06:10
| I think Warchild is a very underrated album. I love "Queen and country","Ladies" or "Skating away...".Totally agree with you,Warchild 2 is a fantastic collection,especially "Rainbow blues" or "Warchild Waltz". They would have had a double album. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 07:21
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Where can I find the other copy of Bungle in the jungle? I just listened to saturation. It remind me of deep purple at their best. Paradise steakhouse is another enjoyable number which reminds me of Black Sabbath. All of them are extremely enjoyable. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:06
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Maybe because some (As I do) rather have the original album in the way it was ment to be listen than in new versions that are only an excuse to sell albums when the bands are not able to create new original quality material. I never cared for bonus tracks or edit 1 and edit 2, and it's also important to notice that not many people are willing to spend all their money in re-issues when there are thousand of albums we don't own and deserve to belistened. Iván ------------- 
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gentletull wrote:Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:31
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Hello Ivān, the fact is that when Tull, Martin and Ian himselves are continuing to release interesting works (JT Christmas album, Stage Left, Rupi's Dance, for example) the recent remasters also are full of good (bonus) tracks which often are true gems. That's undenaiable, Ivān Personally, I've re-bought all the Tull albums untill Broadsword, TaaB, APP and Aqalung apart. I bought years ago the 20th anniversary cd and only there I discovered that Tull released all those powerful "hidden" tracks, so I started the research! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:40
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hey Ivan, why don't you want to hear 4 unknown classic albums worth of great tull songs from the 60s and 70s? You afraid you will see they are better than Genesis? |
Posted By: manticor
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 08:08
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Stupidity Again - Warchild is album without guided fantasies ------------- mantikora |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 17:00
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Warchild 2 is album with guided fantasies |
Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 07:59
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I always thought Warchild is a great album, at first look it may seem different from the previous one, but I usually couple it with A Passion Play, despite the short track-format. For example in both albums Ian plays saxophones... P.S. we all should remember that it was originally thought to be a movie soundtrack 2nd P.S. speaking abot Too Old..., Strip Cartoon is an amazing joyful short bonus track, while A Small Cigar features a great collaboration between Ian Anderson and David (now Dee) Palmer. 3rd P.S. ...a small cigar...maybe Bill Clinton would have something to say about! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 08:12
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yeah, I love strip cartoon. Probably my fave song from the Too old session. I listened to the Too old samples on my site and it is actually a better album than I thought. It has some prog moments also.
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Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 08:39
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A transitional album with its peculiar fascinating feel! Salamander is another wonderful fully-acoustic-guitar played. Pied Piper is very original and Quizz Kid is exciting!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 08:44
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You nee to help me persuade people check out my site and the samples Andrea |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 03:43
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Warchild 2 is like a classic Tull album, but Warchild 1 is like a decent/slightly disappointing album. But Tull were definately among the best prog heavy rock bands in 1974. Maybe the best. But the song choice was not very smart for the Warchild album release 1974. I think it spoilt the bands reputation. They should have released all the bonus songs, they were heavy and powerfull and more prog definately |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 07:32
| It would have been cool if the Warchild movie starring John Cleese was released. I guess the band left certain songs off the album, because it was supposed to be a soundtrack and the other songs didn't suit the movie. But the movie never was released, so a double album would have been cool. I'm still waiting for the release of the 2 unreleased Warchild songs Beaches 1 and Beaches 2. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 08:39
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I'd much rather have the full album as it was originally intended (double Lp) with the tracks present on the Chateau D'Ysaster (named after the studio in France Chateau d'Herouville where the wkole thing fell apart) double record. This was temptatively the soundtrack for the movie (if memory serves)
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 03 2006 at 00:25
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Albums are about releasing the strongest bunch of songs a band can offer in a session. But Tull probably released 3 of the best 10 songs on Wachild. Tull did the same with about 15 of their albums ;). All 15 albums were missing great songs which were better than half of the songs on the album |