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Topic: Genesis verses Jethro Tull ... poll
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Genesis verses Jethro Tull ... poll
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 08:53
OK two progressive Titans both deserve their stripes ... So which band do you think is better ?



Replies:
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:19
have not listened to Jethro

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:23
Tull  in  my  opinion  are  as  good  as  Genesis  overall   so  voting on this  one  was  hard  to  do 


Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:30
Both are TITANS,really great bands. I prefer Tull.


Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:33

Ooh this is a tough one.

I like Gabriel Genesis slightly better, though Thick as a Brick is my favorite album.

But then, we must also include the horrible years of Phil Collins.

Jethro Tull never turned pop.

I think I'm voting Jethro because I believe they will be the underdog.

It's a tie for me though.



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:40
I would vote for genesis but they'll probably win by miles in the end so i'm not going to vote

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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 09:42
Genesis... barely.  Both are great, though.

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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 11:50

I never liked Tull quite as much, the Collins era Genesis kinda gets overpowered by the brilliance of Firth of Fifth!

I'm going with Genesis!



Posted By: frippertronik
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 12:08
im a real fan of both groups, but genesis got that strange kind of magic in their songs...

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 13:10
I think Genesis is a bit better, but I've only heard a few Tull albums.


Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 13:37
Genesis was able to keep their standards up for more years.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 13:48

Originally posted by frippertronik frippertronik wrote:

im a real fan of both groups, but genesis got that strange kind of magic in their songs...

Genesis...and I can't explain it any better than that.



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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 14:17
personally, Genesis by a country mile, but that's because I've never really been able to get into Tull....

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 14:21

Genesis.

JT is an excellent band too, but they are more uneven.



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Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 15:00
voted jethro tull cause genesis is pretty bad


Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 15:06

Tull. Their trilogy Aqualung/TAAB/APP is better than any other Genesis album.

PS: I'm not a great fan for any of these groups, but have all their classic material.



Posted By: Alpine Jones
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 15:20
I would say Genesis, but you were not specific on which era of Genesis. If
you include the post-peter gabriel albums, Jethro Tull looks a lot better.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 16:26

1968-1980

if u rate the bands just from their original albums, not including compliations such as living in the past etc. I think it is about a draw or tull may just win because they have recorded more albums. But if you gather every song both bands recorded in that period, Tull definately win because they have 3 or 4 albums worth of strong bonus material in the period alone. Tull also win easily from 1981 onwards because of the albums plus yest another 2 cd's of strong bonus material



Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 16:34
Jethro Tull for me. Gabriel era Genesis were too comical for me though they had their moments of excellence.


Posted By: Andrea Cortese
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:02
Jethro Tull, for me (by far!) even though I love Genesis a lot (SEbtP and W&W in particular!!)


Posted By: daghrastubfari
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:02
As I really love Thick as a Brick and never really got into Genesis, I vote for Tull


Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:19
I never really got into Tull, so Genesis.

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 17:21
Absolutely impossible to choose

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Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 18:20
I must say I find the result of this poll rather surprising


Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 18:24
Tull, I really like Genesis a lot but the musicianship of Ian Anderson is really impressive. Jethro Tull is one of my favorite bands for sure.

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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 18:42

GENESIS.

They are the expression of the word PROGRESSIVE ROCK.

Enchanting music.



Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 18:57
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Jethro Tull for me. Gabriel era Genesis were too comical
for me though they had their moments of excellence.


Genesis was more commercial? In what way, I always thought Tull was much
more commercial. They're great either way I'm just saying thats what I
always thought.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 19:41
Tull for no other reason other than I find their albums more interesting.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 20:36
Originally posted by Alpine Jones Alpine Jones wrote:

I would say Genesis, but you were not specific on which era of Genesis. If
you include the post-peter gabriel albums, Jethro Tull looks a lot better.
overall whos better ? because while a band uses the band name I believe its responsible for its choices


Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:02
Well, I can't even cast a vote on this one. I love Tull and Genesis. It's like asking "which do you like more, your right ball or your left?"


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:23
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by frippertronik frippertronik wrote:

im a real fan of both groups, but genesis got that strange kind of magic in their songs...

Genesis...and I can't explain it any better than that.

ditto...



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Posted By: Prog1611
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:44
The answer is simple when you consider the question. The better BAND easily would be Genesis, who individual working parts all contributed in the creating of Prog gems.Unified and working as one to create (Gabriel era/ TOTT and WAW) masterpieces. Tull, honestly speaking, as great as the music is, has always been the product of the genius of one man, Mr. Anderson himself. The better BAND, Gabriel,Hackett,Rutherford,Banks and Mr. Collins themselves.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:52

collins=barlow

barre=hackett

They are all great musicians, so Tull is not a one man band



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 21:54

check out the aqualung album 1 v aqualung album 2 and warchild album 1 v warchild album 2 threads



Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 22:05
Tull


Posted By: Ultaigh
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 22:07
Genesis.  I could never get into Jethro Tull nearly as much as Gabriel-era-Genesis.


Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 22:16
Genesis , I never really got into Tull

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 22:49

Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Jethro Tull for me. Gabriel era Genesis were too comical for me though they had their moments of excellence.

Yep you're right, Steve Hackett sitting in a chair,Mike Rutherford playing back in the left corner where no one could see him and Tony Banks hidding his face behind the keyboard should be comedians.

Pater was pretty funny with his costumes and Ian Anderson is so serious

Don't misunderstand me, I love Tull almost as much as I love Genesis, but this is a lame argument (Sorry Raindance) both Peter Gabriel and Ian Anderson were interested in theatrics (Just look at the Heavy Horses video), both are eccentric and had a very acid sense of humour, lyrics of Tull have even more sarcasm and comedy than Genesis.

And you know what? That makes them great, sense of humour mixed with talent is a wonderful combination, Chaplin used to say  it was harder to make people  laugh than to make people cry, and he was damn right.

It's ok to like one more than the other, but please, give good reasons.

Iván



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 22:52
I'm going with Genesis, because unlike Tull, I can listen to 3 of Genesis's top albums in a row withous getting bored. Tull is a very good band....in small doses.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 23:03

if u genesis fans had all the tull album outtakes u would rank tull higher than genesis



Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 23:07
Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

if u genesis fans had all the tull album outtakes u would rank tull higher than genesis

Not by a sight. I have all Tull albums from Stand Up to Broadsword and Some more from the 90s and all Genesis albums from Trespass to Ababcab. I don't think some demos and unreleased tracks will change my mind.



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 23:14
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

if u genesis fans had all the tull album outtakes u would rank tull higher than genesis

Not by a sight. I have all Tull albums from Stand Up to Broadsword and Some more from the 90s and all Genesis albums from Trespass to Ababcab. I don't think some demos and unreleased tracks will change my mind.

Exactly my case, I have each and every album released by Jethro (Including Rolling Stones Circus), almost each and every DVD by them and it's the prog' band I've seen the most (7 times) and I loved each and every concert.

And I believe there's not a serius (older than 35) proghead that doesn't have most of Tull's material, but nothing compares to Genesis IMO, even when I've never been in one of their concerts (Except Invissible Touch tour which sucked) and only have bootleg DVD's from the Gabriel era.

Iván



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 26 2005 at 23:52
Its interesting when we put this to a vote situation how in the Top 100 CD section Genesis is doing better than Tull yet when we ask the question directly its very even ... its just as I thought the top 100 CD`s doesn`t really show true view of things ... I mean (away from the poll a moment) Kansas Leftoverture at number 83 ? (only one of the best prog albums ever and thats not only my opinion) ... do you see my point ? 


Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:03

In answer to the above!

It's because the system is flawed. Some members have multi-log in handles and review an album numerous times. I have noticed Genesis albums given 5 stars by the same reviewers on occasions and any albums that are a threat to their position are given low rankings. Also note how many times Genesis albums have been reviewed in comparison to many others. The more five stars an album getes the higher it will climb up the charts. There should be some some way of working out averages! That way you will see albums like Tresspass and Nursey Cryme drop out of the top twenty like led balloons.



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:11
Don`t get me wrong I believe  Selling England by the pound and Lamb lies down on Broadway deserve to be where they are  .. but theres lots of great prog out there and I feel the way the system runs  its being clogged by certain CD`s  not deserving of being where they are ... and this poll statisticaly proves my point without a shadow of a doubt .. 


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:13
To Progger, I have seen you post about this "conspiracy" way too many times, and frankly I don't believe it!!!  There are just as many Pink Floyd, Yes, etc... fanatics that will rate an album highly.  You may have some formula to figure this out, but like I stated before, I can't believe it and nor do I care that much (apparently you do...). However, I do think that the rating system is flawed, just not in the way that you speak of.

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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:16

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

To Progger, I have seen you post about this "conspiracy" way too many times, and frankly I don't believe it!!!  There are just as many Pink Floyd, Yes, etc... fanatics that will rate an album highly.  You may have some formula to figure this out, but like I stated before, I can't believe it and nor do I care that much (apparently you do...). However, I do think that the rating system is flawed, just not in the way that you speak of.

Just pointing out facts. Do your homework and you will find the truth!



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:19
tull outtakes are nothing like the YES outtakes. Most of the tull outtakes are better than many of the songs on the albums they belong to and there are about 80 outtakes all together. I rank many of them among my fave tull songs. That's the reason why i made the tull site to prove the high quality of them, but not many in here believe me lol. Anyway, I think Thick as a brick and Heavy horses complete session surpass anything Genesis ever did, while Tulls 90s are better than any other 90s albums of any old band easily. I keep mentioning how the warchild outtakes make a much stronger album than the original and aqualung outtakes make a very good album, while Broadsword has 26 songs to choose from(but some arent too flash). The heavy horses and stormwatch outtakes are excellent, while Catfish outtakes are better than half the album too. Not to mention the first 3 albums outtakes are probably the best songs of those albums and many more . If you don't have the 20th ann 3 cd box set, then you're missing out on some great tull, but there are other releases with the rare stuff too


Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:20
Progger the chart works on a complicated algorithim which is pretty fair, though not perfect.

And the site admins keep the reviews VERY well kept and monitored, there are no double reviews.

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:23
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

In answer to the above!

It's because the system is flawed. Some members have multi-log in handles and review an album numerous times. I have noticed Genesis albums given 5 stars by the same reviewers on occasions and any albums that are a threat to their position are given low rankings. Also note how many times Genesis albums have been reviewed in comparison to many others. The more five stars an album getes the higher it will climb up the charts. There should be some some way of working out averages! That way you will see albums like Tresspass and Nursey Cryme drop out of the top twenty like led balloons.

Why don'tyou think this polls are flawed, it's easier to vote twice here than to make two reviews in two different styles, since I have memory nobody has ever accused  reviewers here of being dishonest except you (And you have done it twice at least).

Read the posts and yiu'll find that only 25 posters in this thread  have expressed clearly their prefference for one of the two bands (in a post), and the result is

  1. Genesis 16..................64%
  2. Jethro Tull 9...............36%

Almost the double, so using the logic is easier to believe a lot of Tull fans have voted twice, because the statistics don't lie, in a higher universe of voters, as the top 100 it's much more harder to manipulate than a small poll like this one. 

BTW: There's another fact, many Yes and other bands hate Genesis because it's almost as popular in Prog scenario as their favorite bands, but most Progheads like Tull and don't consider it a thread, so I'm sure that a lot of Yes fans will vote easier for Tull.

Sometimes using the brain is healthy.

Iván

BTW: Only Stomebeard, myself,  Progger and Gentle Tull have written replies in the last 60 minutes (The number of viewers of his thread reveals only 4 people have seen this thread since that moment), but suspiciously Jethro Tull has increased SEVEN votes in 30 minutes (more than 10% of the total voters in 1/2 hour and akll for Tull), Casual???? I don't think so.

Statistics don't lie, a notrmal poll keeps increasing but kepping the tendency, Tull and Genesis were almost equal, but since you joined again, wow, statistics went to hell



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:27
well  I think  plogger has  a  point  ..  and  he  articulates  it  well  .. my  opinion  is  just  my  opinion  .. but   looking  at  the  top 100  CD`s and  knowing  the  bulk  of each bands  music  very  well I can see many  flaws  that my  trained ears as a  long term proghead accepts  as the  truth  and if I was to use  that list as a source of buying music my CD collection wouldn`t  be reprosented in reality as a bona fide best 100 CD`s ever and ceretainly not in that order !   Tull  have  1  CD   in  the  Top ten  ..  genesis  have  three in  the  Top  Ten   by  that  rule  of  thumb    Genesis  should  have   3 times  as  many  votes  in  this  poll  ..  in  my  opinion ... but  they  don`t  infact  last  I  checked  Tull  was  in front  ..  the  system  is  flawed !!!  


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:30
I agree with Ivan, the polls are WAY more flawed than the reviews. I haven't voted on this poll yet (my vote would go to Genesis though...), so I don't know if it allows multiple votes, but I'm assuming it does...and a lot of polls are!!!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:31
You  can`t  vote  twice  on  this  Poll  ...   with  respect  maybe  its  time  you  faced  it  the  system is  flawed  (Although its a great site and  everything )


Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:32
C'mon Ivan, you seem an intelligent bloke but don't let your devotion to Genesis blind you of the facts! Firstly, not everyone who votes in a poll will add a comment. Secondly, Genesis albums have had more reviews than there are contributors to this website. Multi login handles being the reason. Genesis fans have too much time on their hands!


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:35
Still do not agree with you!!!  I'm not even a hardcore Genesis fan. Also, a lot of polls do allow multiple votes, like I said, I didn't know if this one did, but apparently it doesn't...IMO polls are still more flawed than reviews, votes are NOT filtered or accurately cast in polls some of the time.

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 00:39

Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

C'mon Ivan, you seem an intelligent bloke but don't let your devotion to Genesis blind you of the facts! Firstly, not everyone who votes in a poll will add a comment. Secondly, Genesis albums have had more reviews than there are contributors to this website. Multi login handles being the reason. Genesis fans have too much time on their hands!

1.- Statistics don't lie if more people write about a band it's normal that more people are interested in them.

A tendencie to a tie can't change in 30 minutes with no new readers reported cassually when you rejoin

2.- If you log out and log in again you can vote twice in this poll and everybody knows that

3.- So Genesis fans have more times in their hands?? So you even kbnow how many hours I have to work, do you know the rest of the Genesis fans to affirm that? Don't be silly.

4.- As someone said before, the Adms have a feature that allows them to delete two reviews or votes made by the same user even if they change their nick, they use it always in the reviews section vbecause it's important for them, but I'm sure that they don'tgive a damn for this silly polls.

Iván

 



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:00

Wow, no new logins or posts and Tull keeps gaining more votes, seems Gentle Tull and/or Progger are having a lot of work

Iván



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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:05

Two more votes for Tull since my last post two minutes ago, surprising, BTW

Iván



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:24
i only have one id, so its not me


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:31

But you can log out and log in several times and vote again.

Iván



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:36
well i never knew that until u told me now lol. But I won't do it


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:39

To be honest, the avalanche of votes ceased when another member who shouts fraud and corruption left.

As if anybody gained money with this polls and reviews.

Iván



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 01:50
oh yeah ivan, I forgot to mention about my site. This was, stand up and benefit have some outtakes you havent heard also, but aqualung, warchild and broadsword have the most. Let me know how u went. ciao


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 02:05

Originally posted by gentletull gentletull wrote:

oh yeah ivan, I forgot to mention about my site. This was, stand up and benefit have some outtakes you havent heard also, but aqualung, warchild and broadsword have the most. Let me know how u went. ciao

Hey, when did I told you I don't own This Was, Stand Up and Benefit??????

I own the three, even made a review about Benefit (Something I never do without owning an album) and wrote several posts about This Was and Stand Up, as I told you I have every official album released by Jethro Tull (Every LP and every CD in the form of single or double album).

What I don't own are one or two Box sets (Two are enough for me 20 and 25 Aniv) and EP's, which I usually don't care about.

Well, Good night, it may be 12:00 am in Australia but is 2:00 am here.

Iván



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 02:11
i know u own the albums, I said I have the outtakes which you don't have.


Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 02:23
It's funny how progger always has something crazy to say. Whether
it's "Genesis are just Yes wannabees with masks", "Fripp plays out of tune" or
"this site is a conspiracy for genesis fans."

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But glittering prizes
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Shatter the illusion
Of integrity


Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 03:22

 

  Genesis 1970-1980 is the best decade ever put in by a prog band

 Tull are excellent but in the end Ian Anderson is beaten by numbers



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 03:35
Seriously you have missed the point ... Statisticaly  when looking at the votes per band Tull is looking like they are  leading .. Yet the top 100 CD`s doesn`t suggest this to be the case  ... This poll shows us how flawed the top 100 really is (thats partly why I ran this poll to investigate the situation because I strongly despute the data thats being told to us)  


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 04:28

;)



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 04:34

Interesting pole. Jethro Tull are a hard band to judge because they released so many songs scattered all over the place. Genesis was always my favorite band back in the 70s and Jethro were maybe in my top 3 or 4 bands behind YES and Floyd.

But things have changed since I have updated my vinyl albums to cd over the last 2 years. I am discovering an enormous amount of Jethro songs from the recent remasters that I had never heard before and I'm loving them hugely. I had the first 15 vinyl albums of both bands and now I have them all on cd thanks to the christmas just gone.

I haven't got any jethro or genesis album after 1984. Genesis have remained number one, but Jethro have lifted 2 notches to be my second favorite band. I never had LITP from 1972 until yesterday and by golly I see what I was missing, plus all the other remasters. I feel that I have discovered 3 classic albums from the past.

I'll vote genesis for now, but my vote may change when I finish off the collections of both bands soon.



Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 05:57
You are a lucky boy. You have to discovered yet all the great Tull bootlegs with the unreleased live instrumental tracks. Enjoy it!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 08:41
I love most of the extra tracks that come with lots of Tull CD`s  ... I love genesis    ..  I  mean  love  them  ..  but overall  I`m  voting for Jethro Tull  on the talents of Ian Anderson


Posted By: SuppersReady
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:10
I love Tull, but Genesis is just so good, i like them more


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:16

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Seriously you have missed the point ... Statisticaly  when looking at the votes per band Tull is looking like they are  leading .. Yet the top 100 CD`s doesn`t suggest this to be the case  ... This poll shows us how flawed the top 100 really is (thats partly why I ran this poll to investigate the situation because I strongly despute the data thats being told to us)  

  1. This polls are flawed, yesterday night when Progger logged in, the votes of Jethro Tull jumped from 29 to 41 in 20 minutes THIS IS STATISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
  2. Thi is MORE  impossible (If this term is valid) at 1 am central time, because most Europe and American (North and South) members are already in bed, leaving only members from Asstralia, Asia and Africa, which don't represent a big percentagre of the members.
  3. You and everybody know it's easy to log out, then in, and vote as many times as you want.
  4. The Adm's check the IP number of all reviews, so it's double checked, something they don't do with this insignificant and useless polls.
  5. It's easier to manipulate a short sample as the one in this polls than the one of the Top 100 because it includes several hundreed of votes.

But if you want to believe we all are corrupt (As Progger repeteadly said) then why are you all loosing their time in a corrupt forum?

BTW: Nothing is being sold to us, everything is provided for free by the owners, and I believe we should thank mailto:M@x - M@x and Prog Lucky for that.

It's easy to talk when you don't help the forum to work, some of us do it for hours each day (Adding reviews and biographies, others administrating and moderating) and only for love to the genre.

GentleTull wrote:

Quote I know u own the albums, I said I have the outtakes which you don't have.

Ok, you have earned a golden star as in Kindergarten.

Iván



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:23

Originally posted by MrGabriel MrGabriel wrote:

Interesting pole.



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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 11:33

Anyways, I've heard more than once, not only from this thread, that certain Tull outtakes are better than acertain album tracks. This may be true, and I may end up wanting to get them, but I still do not think they will sway me enough to change the firm position I hold now.

Another couple of things:

  1. Anyone who bothers to fix a useless or simply amuzing poll needs to grow up.
  2. The reviews system is flawed. But by simply requiring that reviewers write a review and not just rate and album, we'll get much more accurate overall album ratings. For evidence of this, look only at the ratings for Pendragon's Believe. 3 0 stars, 1 4star, and the rest (10+) 5 stars. It's simply inaccurate.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 16:31
The bonus tracks swayed me so much it's not funny. I once had the original albums of Aqualung, Warchild and Broadsword on cd. I thought Aqualung was good and the other 2 only half decent. I didn't think alot of the band then. But over time I realised there was 8 aqualung, 9 warchild and 16 broadsword bonus tracks. These are like 3 albums and Warchild is easily beaten by the bonus tracks. The bonus stuff is heavy and exciting stuff. They are very similar to Aqualung. The broadsword bonus tracks also contain some great stuff, same with aqualung. The band became twice as good just from the 3 years alone. But there are tones of other excellent extras on many albums, which really make any tull fan stronger. There are 3 or 4 bonus tracls on each of the fisrt 3 albums and the best couple of songs from each of those 3 albums are  the bonus tracks. How can you leave off classic like teacher, witches promise, living in the past, sweet dream, love story, xmas song and more. Crazy ;). Same with Stormwatch, Horses, SFTW, Minstrel, Too old. How can you leave off songs like strip cartoon, beltane, king henrys madrigal, crossword, kelpie, blues instrumental, a stitch in time and more. These songs are great. I can make Catfish sound better than roots by adding bonus tracks and deleting some other tracks. There are more too


Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 18:48

 

genesis

i personally don't like too much tull. thick as a brick is incredible, but other than that i really havent been too impressed.



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 19:44
read above solaris ;)


Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 22:48
Jethro Tull wins.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 27 2005 at 22:50
3 cheers for the mighty Tull  


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 28 2005 at 05:45

Tull wins

CLOSE SHOP



Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 11:21
Jethro Tull all the way, Genesis have become very boring to my ears there was a time when i liked it very much but now dayes it yust sounds boring and mediocer...   Well not The lamb... ofcourse that album will allwayes sound fresh i think thats a real masterpiece

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 11:30
Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

Jethro Tull all the way, Genesis have become very boring to my ears there was a time when i liked it very much but now dayes it yust sounds boring and mediocer...   Well not The lamb... ofcourse that album will allwayes sound fresh i think thats a real masterpiece


hmmm.... well boring is a epitaph that will never be attached to Tull.  Edge to Tull in my eyes for Thick as a Brick alone.  Throw in Passion Play and others.  Tull all the way.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 17:37

If you think tull are great. Listen to my samples and u will love them another 50% more ;)

http://www.geocities.com/tobias99_au/Jethro_Tull.html - http://www.geocities.com/tobias99_au/Jethro_Tull.html



Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 31 2005 at 17:58

it has to be genesis [but just steve hackett era]. .anyways thats funny because now i listen "heavy horses"



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 01:54
well martin listen to the rare heavy horses song samples on my site ;)


Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 02:12
Jethro by a long shot


Posted By: Destrio
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 05:05

ian anderson and his crazy band, jethro tull ,they beat genesissss

yepppp

 



Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 06:51
I'm thinking that the YES fans are voting here to fell GENESIS. Because JT is a joke. This band have only 2 good albuns (Aqualung & TAAB). The rest is ...


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 07:20

u havent heard much tull if u think aqualung is among the best 2 albums lol. The full sessions of heavy horses, stormwatch and dotcom are all better than the original Aqualung album. The warchild outtakes, Songs from the wood, A are as good as the original Aqualung album. The full Benefit, Broadsword, Catfish sessions are as good as the original Aqualung album. When I say full session, I don't mean an original album such as Heavy Horses. I mean the original album plus another 6 or 7 songs included which are among the best songs from the whole session. I think you need to do some research Herbie



Posted By: Deliriumist
Date Posted: January 01 2006 at 09:35
Genesis is better...but only a little.


Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 10:16

Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:

Jethro Tull for me. Gabriel era Genesis were too comical for me though they had their moments of excellence.

Actually, JT's material and shows were nor precisely a world apart from comedy: Monty Python was an obvious visual reference for both bands on stage in the early 70s. Well, JT bore that MP influence for even longer.

Oh, by the way, I voted for JT since their material has been more consistent in terms of progressive interest and musical quality.



Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: January 04 2006 at 13:38
Well, I sometimes like Jethro Tull, but for me they are nothing stunning, so my vote goes to genesis!

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Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 02:55
Tull.  Definately Tull.  Genesis tends to get old sort of fast.


Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 06:45

It is very interesting to notice that when the BIG 6 are listed together (see another topic), Genesis has 3 times more votes than Jethro Tull.

But when Genesis and Tull are face-to-face, Tull wins. The reasons may be:

  1. Tull fans prefer to vote when their favorite band is only in a poll face-to-face, not liking to vote in a poll where there is more than 2 options.
  2. The majority of fans of bands like Yes, ELP, KC, Floyd prefer Tull instead of Genesis.
  3. Another reason I did not get into.


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 07:58
another reason, genesis fans are voting 3 times each in the other thread lol


Posted By: Nixoleon
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 08:03

Tull

 

In fact, Genesis used to be my favourite band until I discovered Jethro Tull.  I have never been disappointed in a Tull Album.  This is taking the whole of both their long careers into consideration.



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: January 05 2006 at 08:12

GENESIS

They are the ultimate prog rock band for me. Every thing they done between 1970 and 1980 was brilliant IMO. No other bands music has touched me so profoundly, with the possible exception of Rush, but they are not a 'pure' prog band.

I do like Tull as well. TAAB, and Songs from the Wood are my top Tull albums, but they aint a patch on Gabriel or Collin's Genesis..



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Posted By: ken4musiq
Date Posted: January 16 2006 at 01:00

 

 

Jethro Tull was one of the most popular bands of the 1970s.  I remember the Aqualung album being so over-played.  It was played as much as Dark Side of the Moon. Jethro Tull does have the distinction of being the only prog band to release an album every year throughout the classic British prog rock period. 1968-1980.  Every album is at least 'good' and has a hit song on it. (Maybe not something that you would hear on the radio, but something that would end up on a greatest hits collection.) Ian Anderson still ato put out an album every other year after that;  it's pretty impressive.




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