Thick or Dark Side
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Topic: Thick or Dark Side
Posted By: Gentle Tull
Subject: Thick or Dark Side
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 10:40
These two have been going back and forth which is better?
Thick by far for me
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 10:42
Dark side is one of my all time favs but i'm REALLY getting into thick as a brick, got it the other day and i've listened to it about ten times, i'm listening to it now!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 10:43
Haven't listened to Thick As A Brick...maybe in 2006...
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Posted By: Mercury
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:03
Both truly great albums, but Dark Side is better. I prefer
Gilmour and Water's vocals to Ian Anderson's. Also, Thick as a
Brick can be too repetitive at points. It also may help that
Floyd is one of my all time favorite bands. Still, they are both
classic albums and masterpieces.
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:17
Im not gonna vote coz I like both, Dark side for the way it was created and how it opened up and created new techniques in the creation of albums that are now nothing new in todays recodeing of albums and Thick simply because it rips the piss out prog and the genres generally large and expansive ego.
Another way is like this:
Dark side is like BBC news: High brow and now a national institution
Thick is like Dead Ringers: Funny, truthful, 'mockery is the best form of flattery.'
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Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:21
Thick as a brick, but only because Im enjoying it more theese days and
I rank most of the other Pink albums higher than The Dark Side.
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:23
Dark side.. would be hellovalot harder to choose between in the court of and dark side tough!
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 11:47
Thick as a Brick, as it was my introduction to prog.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 13:42
Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 13:53
Definitely Thick As A Brick. I've allways prefered Tull to Floyd. For one thing, I'm a drummer and I think Barriemore Barlow chops Nick Mason to pieces.
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 13:56
Someo Therguy wrote:
Definitely Thick As A Brick. I've allways prefered Tull to Floyd. For one thing, I'm a drummer and I think Barriemore Barlow chops Nick Mason to pieces. |
I STILL haven't voted. but thers one point in taab when i couldn't believe the drumming, it was so fast!
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 14:52
For God's sake a Prog/Folk poetic album against a Space Prog atmospheric one?????
Why don't you compare King Crimson with Renaissance?
There's no connection and no way to compare both, totally and absolute different conceptions of music.
Iván
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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 14:55
Well they are very different! and thats why it makes sense to ask the question! what would be the point in asking the same question about two records that are basically the same!!! not much.
plus these two are always fighting for third place in the poll
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 16:07
Thick gets a little to boring sometimes due to the repetition as already mentioned above. Darkside is much more comfortable to listen to for me, and I like the "sad, dark", (pun intended), lyrics better than Ian's. I think Darkside is more dynamic also.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 16:51
Thick as a brick is miles ahead. Dark side of the room shouldn't even been mentioned next to a complex masterpiece such as Thick as a brick. Dark side is so overrated. It only has 3 strong tunes, the first 3 tracks on the album.
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 16:53
^Get some ears, and a brain.
You should know that for many like myself, complexity doesn't matter at all when it comes to what moves you, that's all that matters in music, if it moves you, not if it takes a Mozart to write. I feel happier when listening to DSOTM, I feel bored when listening to TAAB. That's how I came to my choice.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 16:55
Both incredible albums
But i choose Darkside
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 17:01
I can't stand the great gig in the sky or Any colour you like. They must come 1000th on my all time fave prog instrumental ratings lol. Money is a pop song. Just like the song Wish you were here. A pub pop song
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 17:16
Why it is necessary to compare such different works?
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 17:16
gentletull wrote:
I can't stand the great gig in the sky or Any colour you like. They must come 1000th on my all time fave prog instrumental ratings lol. Money is a pop song. Just like the song Wish you were here. A pub pop song |
Pop is bad your saying? Even if it is good the fact that something's pop means it is terrible?
I don't think any of the songs are pop, even though they were popular, and I like the instrumentals Great gig and Any colour you Like, both are enjoyable for me. Great Gig is the best song on the album IMO. Richard Wright's best song ever. I still stand by my statement that this album is more dynamic than TAAB, and that is enough for me to like it more.
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Posted By: Harbinger1
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 19:44
Some great comments but I have to agree you really can't chose. However
on a level of just which album I find myself listening to more often it
is Dark Side Of The Moon. A true classic in the truest sense of the
word. Now as for the drumming. I too am a drummer and I do not listen
to albums like Dark Side Of the Moon for the drumming. If I want to
hear drumming I will listen to Buddy Rich Live in London, or Return to
Forever's Album Where Have I known you before with Lenny White on
drums. Now if you really want to hear a drummer who sounds like he is
playing on a combination of steroids, adrenaline, and speed, just
listen to Billy Cobham's Spectrum album.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 20:04
I voted for the prog album rather than the neo prog sub blues rock pop album
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Posted By: Rust
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 20:09
richardh wrote:
I voted for the prog album rather than the neo prog sub blues rock pop album |
What's neo, or pop about it. The fact that it was popular doesn't mean it is pop music. They didn't intend on making a popular album. They didn't give the mainstream what they wanted like all other pop music does. The band did what they themselfs wanted to do, and many others happend to like it.
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 20:17
Weird comparison but eh... It's a no-brainer for me. Mr Anderson always wins against Floyd!
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Posted By: Oxygen Waster
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 21:21
I dont know why but I'm not a Fan of Dark Side.
I'm more a fan of their Early Stuff
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 01:06
obscured by clouds is better than dark side, so is meddle and animals. Dark side is one of my weaker floyd albums
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Posted By: TheCrimsonKing
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 03:05
I live in Vancouver BC, Canada and am 17. As you know, I was not alive to see the creation of such excellent music, but I DID have the pleasure to see Jethro Tull last October in the States
They played a shortened (wish they would have played the whoel thing) version of Thick as a Brick and I had snuck up to the front for it.
Let me say, it was AMAZING! holy sh*t. What an excellent album it is, the melodies suit Anderson's voice perfectly, the whole feeling of the thing is just excellent.
I must say that I prefer that over Darkside of the Moon because of the sort of feeling. I mean, it has a very scottish feel to me, I think of Scotland when I listen to it for some reason. Overall, it's the vocal melodies that get me.
PS with the whole matter of Dark Side of the Moon being pop: that is ridiculous, anyone should know of all bands Pink Floyd was simply putting out THEIR music. For christ's sake, Money is in 7/4 time and it has about 3 minutes of solos (sax and guitar) right in the middle. What's so overly pop about that?
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 03:46
Thick as a Brick, I guess.... but A Passion Play and Wish You Were Here both beat both
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Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 03:57
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 04:25
Rust wrote:
richardh wrote:
I voted for the prog album rather than the neo prog sub blues rock pop album |
What's neo, or pop about it. The fact that it was popular doesn't mean it is pop music. They didn't intend on making a popular album. They didn't give the mainstream what they wanted like all other pop music does. The band did what they themselfs wanted to do, and many others happend to like it.
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But you reasoned that I was talking about Dark Side even though I didn't clarify it
Actually I like DSOTM and regard it as rock album mainly.But thats fine.Its enjoyable but I prefer TAAB.
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 08:00
It's Thick Side of the Moon for me
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 08:08
I'm really sorry to say this, but I can take or leave either.... it's CTTE for me...
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 08:20
Both albums which I rate just short of masterpiece standard (I gave both 4* but reckon they come very close to 5*). Thick as a Brick is more musical to me and I like the concept though Dark Side is more experimental and has some great high points. On balance Thick as a Brick by a small amount.
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Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 10:53
Dark Side, because it has a better album cover.
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 12:42
THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON.
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 25 2005 at 12:43
zabriskiepoint wrote:
Dark Side, because it has a better album cover. |
what an argument...
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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 05:34
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 05:42
Thick as a Brick.I'm not trying to offend hardcore PF fans,but I always thought DSotM was incredibly overrated.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:20
yes dark side is so overrated and WYWH is a fair bit too
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:26
Why has everyone have to say so and so album is overrated. If it is expected by a large crowd of Progressive Rock fans as a classic, it is a classic!
I'd chose Dark Side of the Moon, because I like Pink Floyd better as a band, but Thick as a Brick is a brilliant release and it showcases Tull at its finest!
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Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 17:38
I like Thick as a Brick more by a lot, but thats not to say Dark side of the Moon is bad, it is very good but no where near as good and Thick as a Brick.
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Posted By: Emiaj
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:10
never liked DSOTM even when Pink Floyd was one of my favorites bands
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Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: December 29 2005 at 18:49
For me JT have only 2 great works: "Aqualung" & "Thick as a Brick". But they are very inferior to any 70's album by PINK FLOYD...
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 07:04
2 great works? Heavy horses (full session) , Dotcom and A are better than Aqualung. So are about 6 other albums sessions. But the Aqualung full session is one of the best. Pink floyd aren't capable of playing something like Thick as a brick, so floyd are way off . They even had to hire a drummer to play comfortably numb for the wall album, because Mason couldn't keep up lol. Pink floyd are not a top 5 prog band. Tull are twice as good as most of you think
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Posted By: calvin
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 07:43
I would definitely go for Thick as A Brick. For some reason, I was never able to really get into Dark Side of the Moon (no matter how many times I've listened to it).
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 08:17
No contest. I find TAAB a very average album (and yes, I own it, and
yes, I have listened to it at least 20 times or so - I just don;t
particularly like it). DSOTM, whilst not the best of PF, is still a five star masterpiece for me.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 08:24
King of Loss wrote:
Why has everyone have to say so and so album is overrated. If it is expected by a large crowd of Progressive Rock fans as a classic, it is a classic!
I'd chose Dark Side of the Moon, because I like Pink Floyd better as a band, but Thick as a Brick is a brilliant release and it showcases Tull at its finest!
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I agree with the sentiment but coming from you flossy that is a load of sanctimonious crap.
All you ever say is this or that(throw in the name of any album or artist/musician)is overrated.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 08:54
^^ learning to give have respect for and give credence to the musical passions of others, is something quite a few of us have had to learn on PA.
The necessity of being able to do so will ensure that PA is a happier place to visit....
Both of the above albums are classics, whether they are to their taste or not, and anyone who tries to trash their reputation for the sake of cheap point scoring is guilty of mindlessly trampling over the feelings of many others...
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 09:17
As much as i like "thick as a brick" noting can ever beat DSOTM its the ultimat album of all time.
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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 09:18
they are both excellent excellent excellent albums, better than 99.95% of other prog even, but I'd spring for TAAB
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 30 2005 at 09:58
I don't see the excitement of dark side. Very sleepy stuff. I guess if you don't understand the brilliance of taab then you shouldn't be voting in here . Hence Dark side really shouldn't have any votes lol
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Posted By: Goldenavatar
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 01:29
How is there any comparison? Look at the musicianship, the arrangement, the sophistication of each. Thick as a Brick towers over Floyd. I've never heard Nick Mason do anything even remotely close to the work Barrie Barlow did on any Tull album. Plus Ian runs circles around Waters as a frontman. A monkey could play bass as well as Waters, seriously! A slightly more interesting match-up would be Thick as a Brick vs. Animals. I'd have to sit and think about that one...for about 1 second.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 06:32
Tull are way better than Floyd.
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 06:46
Dark Side of the Brick... No, really DSOTM for me.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 07:59
Dark side, beautiful album.
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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 04:27
Tull´s music is more complex and creative.Much more.
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 06:15
Both are AMAZING!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 07:49
Thick as a Brick by a mile.
Dark Side of the Moon... great in the historical context. Stack it
against other prog albums.... simply and honestly not as interesting..
IMO of course.
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Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 12:11
^ I couldn't agree more.
I have trouble listening to DSOTM because it is frequently boring.
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Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 12:17
Dark Side
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Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:03
Dark Side for me.
Mainly because it's the more consistent of the 2.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 17:10
TAAB. Dark Side is overrated. See my http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=60053 - review
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: January 30 2006 at 18:01
Even though Thick as a Brick is a pretty good release, Jethro Tull's best, but anything Pink Floyd made during the Dark Side of the Moon- The Final Cut period rapes the best of Jethro Tull, IMO described here in Thick as a Brick.
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