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Topic: Moog solos Moog improvs
Posted By: urko
Subject: Moog solos Moog improvs
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:04
Do u create your own Moog solos in that 70.s style?
Floyd used it on some track.....title escapes me...ive heard it throughout prog genre...i want to try to understand how that "feel" /technique is achieved .the only example that comes to mind at the moment is Deep Purple's "A" 2000 track from the "Burn" album...sounds quite funky actually
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Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:07
I think they are specially made to have that signature sound. Most songs with Rick Wakeman in them by Yes will have a good Moog solo. Lonesome Electric Turkey by Zappa is basically one big Moog Jam. Dream Theater recently used one on Octavarium. Are they sampled like Mellotrons are?
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:15
The best moog solos ever can be found on:
The Keys to Ascension rendition of Starship Trooper by Yes
Just the Same by Gentle Giant
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:28
Trouserpress wrote:
The best moog solos ever can be found on:
The Keys to Ascension rendition of Starship Trooper by Yes Just the Same by Gentle Giant
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:34
I think 'Lucky Man' is an amazing solo, and Keith Emerson didn't even like it! However, it was one of the first and remains one of the best to me.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:38
Trouserpress wrote:
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Gonna have to agree with TP on that one, go ahead and hang me as well......
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:44
Funny that Jon Lord's moog on Deep Purple was mentioned; I think if there was one keyboard player that should have stuck to the Hammond organ it was Lord; I find his Moog playing just average- 'A 200' is pure filler, and his solo on the California Jam version of 'Space Truckin' is unbelievably bad as it's like he was learning how to play it there and then.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:47
meurglysIII wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Gonna have to agree with TP on that one, go ahead and hang me as well......
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:49
I must mention one of my keyboard heroes here- Ken Hensley. He took to the Moog like a duck to water in my opinion- he played an outrageously good solo on the 'Live '73' version of 'Gypsy' and also on songs like 'Devil's Daughter' and 'Beautiful Dream'.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 16:58
salmacis wrote:
I must mention one of my keyboard heroes here- Ken Hensley. He took to the Moog like a duck to water in my opinion- he played an outrageously good solo on the 'Live '73' version of 'Gypsy' and also on songs like 'Devil's Daughter' and 'Beautiful Dream'.
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what did you think of his move to Blackfoot? i've been a heep fan for 30 years or so - just wondered what you thought
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 17:03
I've not heard his work with Blackfoot as yet, but I've heard most of Ken's other work- even his stint with WASP on 'The Headless Children'...
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 17:22
Snow Dog wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Gonna have to agree with TP on that one, go ahead and hang me as well......
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It just seems so inappropriate on that song. It's a passable (well no,
quite poor, really) ballad that suddenly gets mauled at the end by the
weaving mess of a solo. Eugh.
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 17:44
^ yeah the solo does not really belong but it still kicks ass
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 18:25
One of my favourite moog solo is on the "THE REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD" track by the great WAKEMAN.
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 19:04
Which version of Starship Trooper features the better Moog solo, Keys
to Ascention or Yessongs? I heard a live version of the song with an
incredible Moog solo at the end but I don't know which album it was
from .
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 20:17
Ty1020 wrote:
Which version of Starship Trooper features the better Moog solo, Keys to Ascention or Yessongs? I heard a live version of the song with an incredible Moog solo at the end but I don't know which album it was from . |
Maybe you have heard the "Yessongs" version. Here Mr. WAKEMAN played a wonderful synthesizer solo on the "Wurm" section. ( ENTIRE SONG LENGHT : 9:25)
But in "Keys to Ascension", "Starship Trooper" has a duet of solos by HOWE & WAKEMAN in the "Wurm" section very very nice. ( ENTIRE SONG LENGHT : 13:05).
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 11:14
You may not like the solo on Lucky Man, but you have to admire KE's ability. He said he did the solo off the top of his head.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 11:16
Trouserpress wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
The worst moog solo ever can be found on:
Lucky Man by ELP
*prepares to get hung from the nearest tree for blasphemy*
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Gonna have to agree with TP on that one, go ahead and hang me as well......
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..with great pleasure!
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It just seems so inappropriate on that song. It's a passable (well no, quite poor, really) ballad that suddenly gets mauled at the end by the weaving mess of a solo. Eugh.
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NO!!!!!
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Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 14:25
The Old Castle By E.L.P. Great Moog Solo.!!!
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 16:10
Most beautiful Moog solos (IMHO):
Patrick Moraz on "To Be Over"
Eddie Jobson on Zappa's "I Promise Not to Come in
your Mouth" (Live in N.Y.)
Peter Wolf on Zappa's "Cy Borg" (Joe's Garage)
Jan Hammer on The First Seven Days", "The
Seventh Day"
Most Kick-Ass Moog Solos:
Emerson "The Old Castle"
Jan Hammer on The First Seven Days, "Darkness;
Earth in Search of a Sun"
Jan Hammer on Billy Cobham's "Quadrant 4"
(Spectrum)
Patrick Moraz "Sound Chaser"
Note the absence of Rick Wakeman from the list...
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Posted By: Olias
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 18:28
ANDREW wrote:
One of my favourite moog solo is on the "THE REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD" track by the great WAKEMAN. |
Yeah!!
TFTO has some great Moog passages.
I like also the first TRACE album and the second album by the Italian´s METAMORFOSI
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 20:28
Im just begining to get which sound is which type of keyboard...and I must say that the Moog and the Mellotron are my favorites...they sound somehow quite dark...
But still i have some questions, which keyboard does Patrick Moraz uses in Gates of Delirium? Or does he use a lot of different?
And the key solo from Genesis in the Cage...is that a Moog?
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 20:46
Moraz used many different Moog's on 'The gates of delirium', infact many different keyboards, in the first 22 bars there are 12 different changes of keyboard. The Moog for most of the song is a 'MultiMoog', you can clearly see him solo on it during the song on the QPR May 75 show. He also utlizes the Hammond organ, Mellotron and Fender Rhodes alot in the song.
As for Tony Banks, well he was never much of a Moog user until 'And then there were three' in 1978 when he got his Polymoog, that pretty much replaced the Mellotron for string sounds on that album, though he did cart the Mellotron out for that tour for the last time. With 'In the Cage' he used an Arp synthesizer, likely a 'Pro soloist'. The Arp 2600 was used in the studio as late as 1978, so its a possbility that it is a Arp2600, but I am fairly sure it is a 'Pro soloist'. Live, after 1978 he used an Arp Quadra almost totally for all the synth solos up until the 'Invisble touch' tour, you can still clearly see his Arp Quadra in those videos as well as the 'Three sides live' video.
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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 22:17
Moraz had a different string machine than the
Mellotron, called the Orchestron. It has a different
sound, a little fatter and brighter.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 08:03
Well Bob Moog was impressed by KE's Lucky Man solo even if some progarchivers here aren't![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
My favourites:
Lucky Man - ELP ![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
Aquatarkus(Live) -ELP (f**king amazing!)
Trilogy (last section) - ELP
Alsorans:
ColosseumII - The Scorch
Starship Trooper - Rick Wakeman
Nice n Sleazy - The Stranglers
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 08:17
Good example of moog is also Black Sabbath "Laguna sunrise" and "Changes"
Nice moog is on ELP's "Tarkus"
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 08:29
That might have been a Moog on Laguna Sunrise, but on the tour to support that album there was an ARP 2600 onstage.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 08:38
A'swepe wrote:
That might have been a Moog on Laguna Sunrise, but on the tour to support that album there was an ARP 2600 onstage. |
Yes, I messed up mellotron with moog.
But Tarkus is defintely moog ![](smileys/smiley36.gif)
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Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:12
Emerson & Wakeman were Moog guys - as previously mentioned, Tony Banks was ARP & Ensoniq.
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Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:26
"Pequeñas delicias de la vida conyugal" Sui generis.
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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:26
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:28
Olias wrote:
ANDREW wrote:
One of my favourite moog solo is on the "THE REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD" track by the great WAKEMAN. |
Yeah!!
TFTO has some great Moog passages.
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I love that Moog solo too!
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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 16:29
RoyalJelly wrote:
Moraz had a different string machine than the
Mellotron, called the Orchestron. It has a different
sound, a little fatter and brighter. |
Yeah, and I think David Palmer uses the Orchestron to replace the strings on Songs From the Wood.
I personally think that is a horrid instrument (at least on Songs From the Wood)!
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Posted By: MegaMoog
Date Posted: December 20 2005 at 20:41
One of my favourite moog solo is on the "THE REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD" track by the great WAKEMAN
I hated tftto up untill someone told me about this solo now it is my favourite yes album![](smileys/smiley4.gif)
if you want the moog listen to any of wakeman's solo albums up
untill 1979 any album after that he still use it but does not changes
sounds as much and the mix of the moog is not as loud
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Posted By: Myxamatosis
Date Posted: December 22 2005 at 11:22
Welcome to The Machine by Pink Floyd has an excellent Moog solo.
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 22 2005 at 11:28
MegaMoog wrote:
One of my favourite moog solo is on the "THE REVEALING SCIENCE OF GOD" track by the great WAKEMAN |
Great solo, and if you want to see a great improv Mini Moog solo by RW,
try "South Side of the Sky" on the Yes "Songs from Tsongas" 35th
Anniversary DVD, where he duels with Howe.
Another great moog player is Jan Hammer...
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