Favorite Genesis album
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Topic: Favorite Genesis album
Posted By: Gonghobbit
Subject: Favorite Genesis album
Date Posted: February 13 2004 at 21:40
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Polls are fun... ------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
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Posted By: Mattjam65
Date Posted: February 13 2004 at 21:49
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Its a tough call because I dearly love each and every one of those albums for their own merits. Im not gonna say which one I voted for. ------------- Only sick music makes money today. Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900) |
Posted By: Alexander
Date Posted: February 13 2004 at 23:45
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Foxtrot followed by Seconds Out. ------------- On A Dilemmia Between What I Need & What I Just Want 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: February 14 2004 at 02:19
 Hear hear, Mattjam! I think I'll follow the same principle, and vote for something less obvious. Kudos to Gonghobbit for coming up with the poll in the first place (this is better than my Bruford poll! ), and for giving us such essential Genesis choices! Great music either way you look at it -- we can't lose!  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Aqualung
Date Posted: February 14 2004 at 07:15
my vote goes to "Selling england by the pound" ------------- 
"Closer to the heart" |
Posted By: Stormcrow
Date Posted: February 14 2004 at 08:31
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Again this is a hard poll for me to vote. There is only one album in the list that I don't consider a truly great one and I think that that one is very very good. So: Foxtrot by a hair. |
Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: February 14 2004 at 10:16
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Very cool someone likes Wind and Wuthering best, I totally love that one too, One for the Vine and Blood on the Rooftops are two of my very favorites by them. ------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: February 14 2004 at 21:23
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Ahhh, very close decision, but I've always thought "Dancing with the moonlit knight", "Cinema Show" and "Firth of fith" were just too good to improve on... They were what made the difference between Selling England and every other album... |
Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: February 15 2004 at 05:57
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I was the one who voted Wind and Wuthering. It's true that 'Sellin England', for example, could be considered a better album overall, but this is 'favourite' album poll, and I just love the mood of 'Wind' and 'A Trick of'. 'Blood on the Rooftops' is one of my all time favourite songs (I recommend 'Strutton Ground' from Hackett's last CD as a similar song in mood). The cover is also my all time favourite (and one of my favourite drawins period). |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 03:54
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I agree with Paco's reasoning - 'Selling England' is probably their "best" album, but I just love the feel of 'Nursery Cryme'; I defy anyone not to melt at the opening to 'Fountain Of Salmacis' ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Verisimilitude
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 05:05
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Well Fountain of Salamacis (or is it Salmacis?) is a very good song... It's got an Iron Maiden feel to it, or that's what I think for some reason, and Nursery Cryme is a very good album... The Musical Box is just awesome... Still my vote's been cast, and all I'm doing is talking up the other albums that don't quite measure up to Selling England by the Pound... Of course that's just my opinion... |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 16 2004 at 14:37
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'A trick of the tail' is Genesis' best album, despite Peter Gabriel's absence on vocals. 'Foxtrot' sounds very, very old, 'A trick of the tail' sounds fresh with sublime keyboard playing and Phil's best drumming. For me, the best Genesis record featuring Peter Gabriel would be to choose between 'Nursery cryme' and 'The lamb lies down on Broadway'. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: February 17 2004 at 03:08
I have also that same feeling with every Genesis record up to Foxtrot, 'Selling England' being a great turning point in sound quality and production. I think low quality production is dramatic in 'Tresspass', an album I really SHOULD like more than I do: hell, I am an Anthony Phillips fan!
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lucas wrote:Posted By: Redstar
Date Posted: February 17 2004 at 07:03
| Until a few years ago, I would have shunned the thought, but 'Trick of the Tail' is a damn solid album. If it weren't for 'Ripples', I'd probably rate it higher than some Gabriel-era albums. As it stands, however, I have to pick The Lamb; maybe just because I was weaned on it. |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaďa
Date Posted: February 18 2004 at 06:54
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Hello Folks Definitively : 1 : Foxtrot (for Watcher of the Sky) 2 : The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (for the lenght and concept) 3 : Wind And Wuthering (for the presence of Steve Hackett) (I'm new, I'm French) ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Marcelo
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 19:05
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"Man is not free because he must decide". Ok, Foxtrot (but Selling england too!)
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Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: February 19 2004 at 19:13
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Selling England looks like the people's choice so far...I love Nursery Cryme too, 'Harlequin', as relatively obscure and mellow as it is within their work, is one of my favorites. Too bad everybody didn't leave Phil, and form another band ------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
Posted By: peringo2
Date Posted: July 21 2004 at 13:48
Agree with Paco. "Blood on the Rooftops" is amazing, and a good proof of how well could Phil deliver stunning melodies. Of course, his best singing was yet to come with "Duke". Still, I feel songs are more properly constructed on "Wind and Wuthering" than in the Gabriel-era albums (it is frustrating that such an amazing song like "Dancing with the Moonlight Knight" has such and abrupt and amateurish ending). But most important of it all: I love Tony Banks, and he never had more room to show his talent than in this record. "Eleventh Earl of Mar" or "One for the Vine" rank amongst Genesis finest moments. And, what the hell, I like "Your Own Special Way" as well. ------------- "Your sperm's in the gutter/ Your love's in the sink" |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 21 2004 at 15:50
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Good to see this thread revived, I found I hadn't voted! Went for "Nursery Cryme", but it could have been any of them.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 21 2004 at 15:56
| I hadn't voted in this one either! 'Trick' gets my vote (again!). |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: July 21 2004 at 16:15
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My vote goes to 'Selling England...', no matter how hard Rutehrford and Collins tried to sabotage its brilliance with More Fool Me (with a wiser arrangement, it would have fit better in 'And Then There Were Three'). 'Selling England...' contains two of my top 5 Genesis tracks: Dancing and Firth, as well as my fave instrumental, After the Ordeal. |
Posted By: peringo2
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 05:33
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Phil never sabotaged anything. Genesis started sounding decently when he arrived, and I could hardly call the charming "More Fool Me" the worst song on the album ("The Battle of Epping Forest" hysteria is a better candidate, but no the only one). Said that, NOTHING in "Selling..." comes close to masterpieces like "Dance On a Volcano" or "One for the Vine". ...Or "Mama", or "The Brazilian", or "Home by the Sea", or "Domino", or "Duke's Travels", or "Tonight, tonight, Tonight"... Why do you leave these masterpieces out of the poll? They did great - if not better - without Gabril an Hackett. TONY RULES!!!!!! ------------- "Your sperm's in the gutter/ Your love's in the sink" |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 07:13
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Trick of the Tail is my favourite.. For me its one of the best rock albums ever recorded. It cant be faulted. The playing is superb, the production is supurb, even the packaging is mysterious and timeless. Had I been following Genesis through the Gabriel years I would have believed it impossible for them to better 'Selling England..' or 'The Lamb..' but with Trick they did.
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 09:07
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Woohoo, "Trick" is getting the love it deserves :) There's individual songs from the other albums I like, and I wouldn't hesitate to go with "Lamb" if only Gabriel had worked on the lyrics a little harder. Kinda surprising no one went for "Trespass" though- I like it as much as the next three. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 09:19
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"Phil never sabotaged anything. Genesis started sounding decently when he arrived..." Let me put this clear: I meant the song and the performance by these two guys at this moment of the album, not Phil's labour per se (where did I mention that Collins sabotaged Genesis?, where?, tell me). He is one of the most brilliant and exciting drummers ever in the prog genre, and as Rutherford has shown before and after 'More Fool Me', he was capable of writing more impressive acoustic stuff than that ('White Mountain', 'Harlequin', 'Ripples', 'Your Own Special Way', his early collaborations with Anthony Phillips). Let's put other people's words in the right perspective, OK? |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 16:54
| Foxtrot. "Supper's Ready" is a classic! |
Posted By: bassguy35
Date Posted: July 22 2004 at 21:02
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i like all of them, but i like seconds out the best ------------- <ROCK ON!> bassguy35 |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: July 23 2004 at 05:27
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Indeed, Suppers Ready is a great work. Foxtrot has some great moments, one of those is 'Can utility and the coastliners' Its not talked about very much, but its a song that I think they should have kept in their live set for many years after PG left. It blends drama and eccentricity perfectly, and would not have sounded out of place on one of their later albums. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: artbass
Date Posted: July 23 2004 at 06:07
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I voted for Foxtrot, though I like the other Gabriel albums aswell.
Watcher of the Skies rules Time Table rules Get 'em Out By Friday rules Can-Utility And The Coastliners rules Horizons rules Suppers Ready rules ------------- she feels wind around her she feels a warming sun she feels some raindrops wet her leaves since that time she lost her griefs |
Posted By: EVO
Date Posted: July 23 2004 at 06:30
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im with the mob...selling england, is the best the lamb however is superiour to all, but less accessible. ------------- Live Long and Prosper... |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 23 2004 at 15:29
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Interesting parabolic curve in the voting. Now what does that tell us? |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: July 23 2004 at 16:45
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The Lamb is my favourite by a long way because it meant so much to me at that time and for a considerable time thereafter.The first five albums all have gems and magnificent prog innovations.I loved Trick and played it it for a long time.Wind and Wuthering was the start of their decline in my eyes albeit it still had some very strong songs but the magic was waning.Then Hackett left and We had and 'Then there were three' keyboards filling in where the lead guitar should be.And Phil taking them into Rock/Pop world.Yes there were still a few maseratis flung in but for me it was over.Gabriel's Genesis is Genesis.Some of those songs mentioned above as being better than the Gabriel'hackett era is mind bongling.Phil Collins great drummer, he became Genesis's pied piper. Rael rules |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: August 14 2004 at 23:32
| it is the winner by excellence! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 00:34
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Strangely being an EARLY GENESIS fan I never noticed this thread before but now I noticed I'm in a big trouble, which album is my favorite: Trespass is amazing, dark mysterious intelligent and incredibly advanced for the year of it's release and a bunch of very young fellows, but still the band had much more to offer. Nursery Cryme has the best track in Genesis career (Musical Box) and a close second place with Fountain of Salmacis, but the plain For Absent Friends is a very low point. Foxtrot has no fillers the best epic ever released and a wonderful and underrated song as Can-Utility and the Coastliners, but none of this excelent tracks is in the level of Musical Box. Selling England by the Pound is my less favorite album of Gabriel era (Not counting From Genesis to the Revelation of course), too simple for my taste, and any album that has such a waste of space as More Fool Me doesn't deserve to be considered the best Genesis album (IMHO of course). The Lamb is probably the most important album of Genesis because it's an icopn of the prog' genre but not my favorite either. A Trick Of The Tail leaves me cold, a good album but too simple. Genesis without Gabriel (but with Hackett of course) was still great but not the same, part of the magic had left with Peter. Wind & Wuthering is much better than ATOTT but I can't resist Phil Collins voice, the guy is simply boring in vocals. Of course I can't care less for any later album, I don't like POP. So I'll vote for NURSERY CRYME. peringo2 wrote:
Funny, I read the same words in Rolling Stones and Blender, two magazines that bash Progressive rock, never imagined reading this in a progressive forum, but everyone is entitled to an opinion. Iván PS: But.......being strictly accurate, Phil Collins arrived before Nursery Cryme. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 07:23
| Tricky one, I said foxtrot, because it was the one I heard on the other side of my Dad's tape of Aqualung, and when i discovered Genesis in general. |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 07:59
I like all they have done until "Foxtrot" (included)..."Trespass" and "Nursery Cryme" are my favorites...just before that the  Phil Collins begane the frontman. ------------- 
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Posted By: Glass-Prison
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 11:44
| I believe all that genesis released up until The Lamb... was a masterful piece of work. Why? because at that point they had two of the best musicians in the prog scene: Peter Gabriel on vocals, and Phil Collins on drums. Sure, Phil is a decent singer, but he is much more valuable on the kit! Therefore, the latter records, to my ear, seem to miss something valuable. |
Posted By: onion3000
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 18:55
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Is it my imagination or is Hacket a lot quieter on the CD versions of ATOTT and WAW than on Vinyl? And why isn't the brilliant Genesis Live in the poll? You've included Second's Out (where they made no secret of bringing Hacket down in the mix - he walked out when he couldn't stand to hear Squonk over and over again!)! I voted for Foxtrot - the reproduction isn't great, and Supper's Ready has a bit where the guitars were out of tune and the tape speed had to be adjusted (listen carefully), but it's about the songs - and apart from all their other stuff there's nothing to compare to it. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 19:12
This seems as two sides of the same coin, It's evident that when Steve left Genesis, Phil and his session musicians (aka Genesis) didn't wanted to release a live album where Steve could be the star, so they decided to mutilate almost all the Steve guitar sections, mixing this parts so low that are almost not audiblefor any 2 legs being with normal ears. In the case of the CD's, I don't know for sure, but it's posible the three members did the same thing. Genesis Live 73 was by far the best album recorded on stage until Archives 1 was released, because Seconds Out has no value after the criminal mutilation and Three Sides Live has only one barely decent side in the UK edition, because the USA edition with a fourth studio side is just crap. Iván |
Posted By: Gonghobbit
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 21:54
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Selling England and Foxtrot have really sorted themselves as the
consensus faves...been listening to Selling since '78, what a really
great album, it really says something when you still pull it out
regularly after all those years....'Paper Late, Cries a voice in the
crowd....mmmmm..old man dies..'
------------- 'This is a local shop, there's nothing for you here' |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: August 15 2004 at 22:53
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"Nursery Cryme" is way behind the rest...
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 05:48
| In spite of the godawful More fool me, Selling England by the pound gets my vote. A trick of the tail is a close second, and that album actually contains my favourite Genesis track (Mad man moon). The lamb... gets third, before Nursery crimes, Foxtrot and Wind and Wuthering. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 06:10
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I'm sorry but I have to get this out of my system, and put all my favourite Genesis albums in order.. 1) Trick of the tail 2) The lamb lies down on Broadway 3) Wind and Wuthering 4) Foxtrot 5) ..and then there were three 6) Selling England by the pound 7) Duke 8) Seconds Out 9) Genesis live 10) Trespass 11) Nursey Crime ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 06:11
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" The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway "
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 14:43
| tough choice between Selling and Lamb, I'll go for the latter for the keyboards on colony on slippermen but then again the keyboards on cinema show are very cool.... impossible to choose, but I voted for lamb cause it's currently the underdog |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 14:53
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Hey!! What about Abacab!!??....................just kidding 1. Foxtrot 2. Nursury Cryme 3. Selling england by the Pound 4. Trespass 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Although all these are so close I could rearrange them depending on my mood P.S....Genesis needed filler tunes like More Fool Me(weak admittedly) and For Absent Friends(which I find as a charming little piece...c'mon guys...the song is soooo short.., how could it irritate ya that much? |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 14:55
| Oops...forgot to finish my thought...they needed those tunes so they could continue to play while Peter was away putting on some bizarre outlandish outfit to fit the show during concerts |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 15:11
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"P.S....Genesis needed filler tunes like More Fool Me(weak admittedly) and For Absent Friends(which I find as a charming little piece...c'mon guys...the song is soooo short.., how could it irritate ya that much?" No, they didn't, but unfortunately, 'More Fool Me' became part of SEBTP's repertoire. Just for the record, during the sessions of SEBTP, Gabriel had come up with an idea for a prog ballad which was to be called 'Deja Vu'. Hackett revisited and widened it for his 'Genesis Revisited' album - with lead vocals by Paul Carrack - making it an almost 6 minute song. Let me tell you it's, in my opinion, a fantastic ballad, melancholy, reflective, emotional: it would have made a hell of an entry for SEBTP, after the splendour of 'Firth of Fifth'. In turn, 'More Fool Me' could have replaced any ballad from the Duke-to-We Can't Dance era. |
Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 16:40
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Ive never heard a Genesis album! I never realised they were held under such high esteem until i came on this site... no offence! ------------- Don't hate me I'm not special like you |
Apart from 'And then there were three'Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 02 2004 at 19:44
| The you have never heard Genesis really. The Peter Gabriel Genesis was an unbelievable era where the band was actually experimental, complex, eccentric, and well.....it just is really really good!! Buy any album on my list. They're all exceptional and the ones I listed had Peter Gabriel in the band. You cannot go wrong with one of those choices |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 15:23
You had me worried briefly there Land, I thought you meant it wasn't as good as the rest, I understand now of course! |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 03 2004 at 15:25
There's a whole new world of discovery before you then. How I envy you! |
Posted By: Andy Latimer
Date Posted: September 05 2004 at 20:55
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I am surprised, thought that Nursery Crime was more "loved" that it is, I feel The Musical Box more than any other Genesis' song. But after all, it's just an opinion. ------------- ... and when they've given you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy, banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall ... |
Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: August 23 2005 at 02:23
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foxy ------------- "Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day" |
Posted By: Omayyad
Date Posted: August 25 2005 at 07:21
| Nursery Cryme |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 09:14
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Foxtrot ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 11:03
Today it's Nursery Cryme. But tommorow ut could be everything. Oh. No, not everything.  ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know... Prog is in my heart, in my mind, in my soul... |
Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 12:14
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1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Foxtrot (Supper's Ready is the best Genesis song) 3. Nursery Cryme ------------- 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 15:01
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Foxtrot ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: sbrushfan
Date Posted: January 28 2006 at 15:10
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Out of the records on the list, I picked "Wind And Wuthering", cause I dug the earthy sound. Of course, my FAVE Genesis disc isn't on the list (oh, irony!!!) It's "WE CAN'T DANCE". ------------- Some world views are spacious, and some are merely spaced... |