Howe Fripp
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Topic: Howe Fripp
Posted By: Olympus
Subject: Howe Fripp
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 23:22
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Recently Zarg 2112 has posted a Steve Howe v.s Steve Hackett poll. This gave me the idea to put two of the greatest prog guitarists togeather in a challlange of skill. Most of you are getting tired of these polls and for that I apologize, here is one more of those polls. ------------- "Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day" |
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 23:53
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You can't really compare them because they're completely different style
players. Unless it is "Which guitarists style do you like better?" So that's what I decided to vote for and I chose Fripp. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 00:25
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Fripp is my favorite guitar player..... Howe is a virtuoso, but in my opinion, fripp is better .... ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 02:41
| Hmm... this is a really even contest. It is really more about which band do you like more, and because King Crimson was more inconsistent in the 70's than Yes, I think I have to say Howe. But he wins it about 51-49 only. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 03:32
| Steve Howe. Fripp wouldn't even be in my top 20. |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 19:44
| Very difficult but Howe I think wins it as a guitarist, though Fripp is more of a mover & shaker. |
Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:08
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Howe has been doing the same solo: "Clap" for his whole carrier.
Fripptronics for me. |
Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:09
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Howe by a mile. ------------- 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:12
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Both are gods of guitar, and of course progressive guitar I i have to choose one, i wil choose Fripp ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Paulieg
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:14
| Mr. Fripp! |
Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:16
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Sorry but I can never understand any hype about Fripp Howe-world class Fripp-amateur |
Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:20
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I don't think Fripp is an amateur. He is just as good as Howe. ------------- "Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day" |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:29
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Both are equally as good! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:36
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It EASILY goes to Fripp, who is much more inventive, distinctive, and also has much more interesting riffs. And there is nothing quite wonderful as a Fripp solo. |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:42
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Fripp plays out of tune and no melody! Howe by a mile! |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 20:47
| Have to say Steve since they are both so gifted, but Fripp is more of an asshole... |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 21:37
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Fripp for me, thought Howe is number two in the prog guitar scene ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 22:06
Fripp would never play out of tune. His ear is very, very good. That's how he plays. By ear, instead of by muscle memory like Howe. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Progger wrote:Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 22:08
 Agreed.------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 23:37
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[/QUOTE] Absolutely disagree with this comment. Two things Fripp hasn't got is an 'ear' for rythm or melody! Howe wins! |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 23:47
is very, very good. That's how he plays. By ear, instead of by muscle memory like Howe.[/QUOTE] Absolutely disagree with this comment. Two things Fripp hasn't got is an
Howe wins! [/QUOTE]You could disagree with not liking Fripp's rythm or melody (I didn't like it at first either) but you can't say that he plays out of tune. Believe me, Fripp knows what he's doing when it comes to the guitar. I've read a lot of Fripp's theory of how he plays and from his responses, ear training is what he values very highly. He wouldn't play out of tune. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: December 10 2005 at 23:58
| I guess I gotta go with Fripp, solely for the guitar solo in Cat Food. |
Posted By: gok22us
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 00:24
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Well, it is IMPOSSIBLE to pick one over the other. Fripp's guitar playing is all over the place, he doesn't give a crap about rythm or melody.....but there is something very compelling about his noisy guitar work. Howe is very precise, and melodic. He plays lines that are very impressive the moment you hear them. Fripp's guitar work takes longer to appreciate. Both go for completely different things. However, they are both equally talented. If you don't think Fripp is up there with Howe, then listen to Fracture, or Fracktured, and he'll show you howe it's done. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 03:02
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Fripp. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 10:04
sorry Steve...
------------- La Speranza della coscienza è forza La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù La Speranza del corpo è malattia (G.I. Gurdjieff) |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 13:21
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Howe is easier to get into, but once you understand Fripp's solos (21st Century Schizoid Man's guitar solo sounds like a lot of drivel at first) it is just clear that he is gifted beyond the average player. He is far more expiremental, and I might even go as far to say he's better than Hendrix. Also, Fripp plays a lot heavier than Howe, Howe plays soft, although that also is related to the band. |
Posted By: thomas mardy
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 13:31
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Both Are Extremely Gifted Guitarists. But I Think Steve Howe Has A Wider Range, And He Can Easily Be As Aggressive As Fripp, Have You Heard Relayer!! But Also His Acoustic Showcases Are Very Exciting, The Clap For Example. ------------- thomas mardy |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 14:04
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My vote goes to Robert Fripp. He does some very impressive accoustic stuff too. Especially Cirkus. ------------- 
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Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 14:05
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Both guitarists are very exceptional, but my vote goes to Mr. Fripp because his overall style is unlike any other guitar player I have heard. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 14:32
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Steve Howe...Fripp's playing never really did anything for me,personally. -------------  |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 16:13
Yeah, most guitarists play in tune and to some degree of structure |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 16:15
You haven't heard anything by King Crimson, have you? Take Book Of Saturdays for example. Both the guitars are supreme. And although the structure isn't as clear as on others, it is there. |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 16:21
Yes, I am referring to his post 74' output! Fripp was alright when he had a songwriter in the band, ie. Macdonald, Lake, Giles, Wetton. These knew about the craftsmanship in songwriting. When Fripp dosn't have a songwriter his playing is erratic, tuneless and amateurish! |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 16:52
Fripp wrote all of Lizard, most of Islands and co-wrote all of the following KC albums, so I don't understand what you mean... I voted for Fripp, btw! Howe is more eclectic but Fripp is an innovator. |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 17:12
And you wonder why 'Lizard' is regarded the worst 70's KC album. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 17:40
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Easy for me, Howe. I believe Fripp is highly overrated, being a weird person and anti social doesn't necesarilly makes him a genious, some King Crimson albums like Thrakk or Bboom sound to me as pure cacophony and sonoric masturbation. I don't deny he can be a genius, I don't think so he's very good but overrated. But who am I to judge him? This is only my 100% honest opinion. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 17:46
this is not everyone's opinion, certainly not mine 
anyway, can you make an example of his amateurish playing? |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 18:17
Sorry Paul, it would mean me having to listen to some Fripp guitar to jog my memory and that would be too painful right now! |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 03:36
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Steve Howe for me without a doubt. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 12 2005 at 03:39
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Fripp is my favourite...saw him recently on two DVD's:Eyes Wide Open
and deja VROOM...BTW he could move a bit more on stage,in deja VROOM he
just lurks on a chair...still a virtuoso and a wonderful musician...
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