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Topic: Progger Stereotypes?
Posted By: Alpine Jones
Subject: Progger Stereotypes?
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 16:56
Lets face it, pretty much every genre has a stereotype. Punks, Mods,
Metalheads etc. What are some stereotypical traits of proggers? Or are we
just a bunch of musicians and fans who keep it real and laugh at the crap
the rest of the world listens to?



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:01

The progger stereotype in the eyes of non proggers is a spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..

The reality is very different of course: Very few teenagers listen to prog, apart from some of our distinguished members of course.



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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:04
I dont think there is one, or at least i dont addhear to it (I think)

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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:09
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The progger stereotype in the eyes of non proggers is a spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..

The reality is very different of course: Very few teenagers listen to prog, apart from some of our distinguished members of course.

\o/



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Posted By: ThesisStatement
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:10
i always think it should look something like syd barret looked like in the early PF days...dont ask me why


Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:18

Male,tend to take their music a bit too seriously!



Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:36
Surely everyone knows we're all a bunch of saddos who can't get a life, have no girlfriend (and no friends for that matter).


Posted By: OldFatherThames
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:49

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Surely everyone knows we're all a bunch of saddos who can't get a life, have no girlfriend (and no friends for that matter).

...I hope your joking...



Posted By: goose
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:50
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..

sh*t!


Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:52
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The progger stereotype in the eyes of non
proggers is a spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the
internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..


The reality is very different of course: Very few teenagers listen to
prog, apart from some of our distinguished members of course. [/
P]


definitely not me

i have a life


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:52
Originally posted by OldFatherThames OldFatherThames wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Surely everyone knows we're all a bunch of saddos who can't get a life, have no girlfriend (and no friends for that matter).

...I hope your joking...


Me too.


Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 17:54

I don't know what the stereotype would be, or if there is one at all, but I am a very musically inclined teenager. I have strong opinions and beliefs when it comes to music. I have only met two other peole relatively my age who were seriously into progressive music. I have gotten some of my friends into a few prog groups, and they respect most of it even if they don't listen to it very often. Most however, don't understand the concepts behind much of what makes up progressive music. Arguing with them is pointless, because they simply ignorant in that realm.

Well anyways, as I said, I don't really think there is a stereotype.



Posted By: Publius84
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 18:24
Intelligent... I think

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:01

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Surely everyone knows we're all a bunch of saddos who can't get a life, have no girlfriend (and no friends for that matter).

I've got a girlfriend BUT VERY FEW FRIENDS ON THAT MATTER

prog is difficult for people, they can't get used to it...

that makes us happy I think



Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:16

You've got several stereotypes.. in metal for example, the necrowizards and the slipknotfans...

Proggers?
- Dream theater fans; sex starved teenagers

- Dedicated musicians who just miss the spot, try to play something but should stick with listening to it

- Ze elitists, they wear scarfs during the summer and pay too much money for 1 vinyl record. With that, snobby about everything.

- the tony R types, rough jackets and bad jokes.

- the computer hackers. Knows stuff about PHP and other abbreviations (used google to find that word LOL) yeah like that. Neo, porcupine tree and stuff...

- The golden oldies.. The hippie back then, the beloved dad now (an good pubspoiler as an addition to that mostly..)

Could go on forever

 



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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:17
I'm not sure if there is one.  If there is a stereotype, it's probably that we're all a bunch of nerdy, music elitists or something like that.


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Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:20
The freeky stoner (Who may, or may not take drugs).



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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:25

Many people listening complex music (prog, for example) are interesting and intellegent.

But some are slightly arrogant, feeling themselves a part of elite, I guess because of the lack of sense of humour and self-irony.



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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 19:31

My eldest son is a progger stereotype!!! He is a tall and handsome guy, Ipanema-style tanned skin, full of beautiful girlfriends, almost-graduated in social sciences and who thinks only about progressive music (when music is the matter).

Some people blame it on me...



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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 20:32
It is a tragedy that for the most part, the common stereotypes for most serious proggers (and by that I mean people whose record collection is comprised of about 90-100% progressive rock, as if no other genre of music is worth listening to) are true.  One look at that pathetic excuse for a Styx thread and you'll see that all the negative stereotypes spread out for you.


Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 20:53

 

a few years ago i when i started listening to prog, one of my friends said jokingly,

"ohh so you listen to music about slaying dragons and castles."

 

i think it's a pretty common stereotype that prog is epic. maybe in some cases

it's true. the epic vocals/lyrics are pretty lame though.

 

it's also a common stereotype that prog is music that is only written to appeal to

the intellectual capacities. again, in some cases it's true, but i think that the superior

prog bands can combine emotionalism with superb musicianship.

 

 

 



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:11

Actually, Im sure the stereotypes are different in every region, I mean... a lot of you seem to think proggers are nerds who can't get laid and bla bla bla... But I live in Quebec, and ... proggers are... respected and cool people. we're always partying or getting high in a friend's lounge where we're like 4-6 people sitting on couches while listening to Genesis, Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, and some prog.

Obviously too... the proggers I know are really into philosophy, SMART BUT SUPER SMART PEOPLE... we're all in the "smart class"... we have long hair, we're kind of hippyish here and we like to think, we love good music.. to play good music and etc.

Anyways, that's how it is in Quebec, prog is damn well respected here.



Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:17
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Actually, Im sure the stereotypes are different in every region, I mean... a lot of you seem to think proggers are nerds who can't get laid and bla bla bla... But I live in Quebec, and ... proggers are... respected and cool people. we're always partying or getting high in a friend's lounge where we're like 4-6 people sitting on couches while listening to Genesis, Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, and some prog.

Obviously too... the proggers I know are really into philosophy, SMART BUT SUPER SMART PEOPLE... we're all in the "smart class"... we have long hair, we're kind of hippyish here and we like to think, we love good music.. to play good music and etc.

Anyways, that's how it is in Quebec, prog is damn well respected here.

Je viens du Québec aussi .

All of you prog lovers should come here if you have any problems with stereotypes. I am certainly not ashamed to wear my Yes and Genesis T-Shirts. Prog is cool here in Quebec!



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:21
Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Actually, Im sure the stereotypes are different in every region, I mean... a lot of you seem to think proggers are nerds who can't get laid and bla bla bla... But I live in Quebec, and ... proggers are... respected and cool people. we're always partying or getting high in a friend's lounge where we're like 4-6 people sitting on couches while listening to Genesis, Soft Machine, Pink Floyd, and some prog.

Obviously too... the proggers I know are really into philosophy, SMART BUT SUPER SMART PEOPLE... we're all in the "smart class"... we have long hair, we're kind of hippyish here and we like to think, we love good music.. to play good music and etc.

Anyways, that's how it is in Quebec, prog is damn well respected here.

Je viens du Québec aussi .

All of you prog lovers should come here if you have any problems with stereotypes. I am certainly not ashamed to wear my Yes and Genesis T-Shirts. Prog is cool here in Quebec!

 

OUAIIS! je marche dans la rue avec des chandails de pink floyd (leurs chandails psychedelique, pas dark side of the moon pi tout) pi ya des vieux barbus partout ki vont commencer a mparler lol... and proggers are everywhere... I mean, I have a really nice group of friends, who are all into prog, and we have a life, we dont hack computers and stuff lol! actually were not too keen on technologies. we still have Discmans unlike everyone with their Ipods, and stuff



Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:29
Vive le Québec!!

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 21:30
^


Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:07
Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

You've got several stereotypes.. in metal for example, the necrowizards and the slipknotfans...

Proggers?
- Dream theater fans; sex starved teenagers

- Dedicated musicians who just miss the spot, try to play something but should stick with listening to it

- Ze elitists, they wear scarfs during the summer and pay too much money for 1 vinyl record. With that, snobby about everything.

- the tony R types, rough jackets and bad jokes.

- the computer hackers. Knows stuff about PHP and other abbreviations (used google to find that word LOL) yeah like that. Neo, porcupine tree and stuff...

- The golden oldies.. The hippie back then, the beloved dad now (an good pubspoiler as an addition to that mostly..)

Could go on forever

 

please go on what am i my fav prog bands are King Crimson,Zappa,Can,Captain Beefheart,Van Der Graff Generator and Genesis 



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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:11
Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

You've got several stereotypes.. in metal for example, the necrowizards and the slipknotfans...

Proggers?
- Dream theater fans; sex starved teenagers

- Dedicated musicians who just miss the spot, try to play something but should stick with listening to it

- Ze elitists, they wear scarfs during the summer and pay too much money for 1 vinyl record. With that, snobby about everything.

- the tony R types, rough jackets and bad jokes.

- the computer hackers. Knows stuff about PHP and other abbreviations (used google to find that word LOL) yeah like that. Neo, porcupine tree and stuff...

- The golden oldies.. The hippie back then, the beloved dad now (an good pubspoiler as an addition to that mostly..)

Could go on forever

 

please go on what am i my fav prog bands are King Crimson,Zappa,Can,Captain Beefheart,Van Der Graff Generator and Genesis 

I'd say you must wear rough jackets with a scarf. Did I mention that you surely are starving for sex, that you can't play an instrument right and that you walk bare-footed ?



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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:22
Originally posted by Bern Bern wrote:

Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

You've got several stereotypes.. in metal for example, the necrowizards and the slipknotfans...

Proggers?
- Dream theater fans; sex starved teenagers

- Dedicated musicians who just miss the spot, try to play something but should stick with listening to it

- Ze elitists, they wear scarfs during the summer and pay too much money for 1 vinyl record. With that, snobby about everything.

- the tony R types, rough jackets and bad jokes.

- the computer hackers. Knows stuff about PHP and other abbreviations (used google to find that word LOL) yeah like that. Neo, porcupine tree and stuff...

- The golden oldies.. The hippie back then, the beloved dad now (an good pubspoiler as an addition to that mostly..)

Could go on forever

 

please go on what am i my fav prog bands are King Crimson,Zappa,Can,Captain Beefheart,Van Der Graff Generator and Genesis 

I'd say you must wear rough jackets with a scarf. Did I mention that you surely are starving for sex, that you can't play an instrument right and that you walk bare-footed ?

thats me in a nutshell baby



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: December 01 2005 at 22:24
The prog stereotype is "My music is better so much better than your's, I
don't care what it is, it can't compare to prog." At least that's what a lot of
people tell me. I think it might be because of my dismissal to listening to the
popular radio stations that my friends love to play.

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Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 00:43
Well I can't say what the prog stereotype is, or else I'd be persecuted for saying so, but then I don't really have an opinion on this topic anyways. So I'll say what I think proggers should be.


We should be artsy intelligent folk who are adventurous, open-minded and hearty. I think we'd gain more respect if we were all like that.

Yet I must say that alot of us are just normal folk that just love our music as much the next guy (who may listen to too much indie rock and punk). There are a couple of us who are very ethical intellects and some of us who are elitists. Yet we're all people.


Posted By: ulver982
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 00:47

^ those are some funky saggy boobies!



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Posted By: jotah15
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 02:34


we are all bright!


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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 03:12
Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

Originally posted by Radioactive Toy Radioactive Toy wrote:

You've got several stereotypes.. in metal for example, the necrowizards and the slipknotfans...

Proggers?
- Dream theater fans; sex starved teenagers

- Dedicated musicians who just miss the spot, try to play something but should stick with listening to it

- Ze elitists, they wear scarfs during the summer and pay too much money for 1 vinyl record. With that, snobby about everything.

- the tony R types, rough jackets and bad jokes.

- the computer hackers. Knows stuff about PHP and other abbreviations (used google to find that word LOL) yeah like that. Neo, porcupine tree and stuff...

- The golden oldies.. The hippie back then, the beloved dad now (an good pubspoiler as an addition to that mostly..)

Could go on forever

 

please go on what am i my fav prog bands are King Crimson,Zappa,Can,Captain Beefheart,Van Der Graff Generator and Genesis 

Don't know how old ye are!

Something like " the return of the son of - the hippie back then, the beloved dad now "

Don't know maybe you are an " I take zappa WAY to sereous"  guy and you're walking around with 2 ponytails and in a dress?



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 05:12

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..

sh*t!

I know. It hurts doesn't it..



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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 05:13
Originally posted by king of Siam king of Siam wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

The progger stereotype in the eyes of non
proggers is a spotty sex starved teenager who spends all night on the
internet discussing time signatures and symbolism..


The reality is very different of course: Very few teenagers listen to
prog, apart from some of our distinguished members of course. [/
P]


definitely not me

i have a life

Me too. I just wish I could remember where I left it!



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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 05:58

I kind of assume most prog fans look like me...



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Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 06:41

Originally posted by Alpine Jones Alpine Jones wrote:

Lets face it, pretty much every genre has a stereotype. Punks, Mods,
Metalheads etc. What are some stereotypical traits of proggers? Or are we
just a bunch of musicians and fans who keep it real and laugh at the crap
the rest of the world listens to?

Well in my opinion prog itself isn't so much a genre as a way of taking other genres to a higher level, hence the diversity of the music is reflected in the diversity of the fans. There is no classic prog fan like there are "classic" hip-hop fans and metalheads for example.



Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 07:20
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

I kind of assume most prog fans look like me...

Yeah, that looks like me too..



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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 07:27

Someone in this forums answered once something like that:

"Well, I'll roll my 20-sided dice and tell you the answer" (not literal, but you get the idea).

I think this was the funniest and most ironic answer I've read in ages



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Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 07:46
there were listed almost all of them. there are also few bands that you have to respect ( for some stupid reason)  here they are

- genesis

- yes

- elp

i dont like any of these


Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 13:07
And, of course there's the stupid Troll who types only in caps-lock and/or overuses the font-size utility, and thinks that disliking the right bands makes him both smart and cool.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: December 02 2005 at 13:19
 how long do we have to see the STEVE WILSON interview



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