Dark Prog
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Topic: Dark Prog
Posted By: tremulant
Subject: Dark Prog
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:18
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I love dark sounding Prog. By this I mean stuff like King Crimson's
"Red", Tool's music in general and Yes's "South Side of the Sky". I would like some recommendations on this particular sounding Prog. Oh, and I'm not really interested in Prog Metal, even though it is dark sounding alot of the time. Thank you! 
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Posted By: Ekzodo
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:31
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I`m not a good fan of Prog Metal, but yes of prog with dark moments The one I think right now are: - King Crimson- The Power to believe (it`s a dark album from start to end) - Marillion have his dark moments (songs like "White Russian", "Chelsea Monday) - Everything from Tool and some moments of Mars Volta. Bands I like that some be ADDED here with a LOT of darky moments are: JOY DIVISION THE CURE BAUHAUS JAPAN I don`t know if you know that bands? ------------- THERE`S TO MUCH MUSIC AND SO LITTLE TIME TO LISTEN TO IT VIVA LA ARGENTINA PROGRESIVA!!!!! |
Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:50
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Try Univers Zero - the darkest band of all time. Listen to"Heresie" with all your room's lights turned off if you can. Not so dark, but once labelled as "Dark sound band": Van Der Graaf Generator. ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:50
Cool, thanks  I already really dig The Mars Volta and Tool, and I know of The Cure, but I need to look into those other bands... I'll very well likely get King Crimson - The Power to believe on my next CD buying spree. ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Ekzodo wrote:Posted By: CandyAppleRed
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:51
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Indukti's new album S.U.S.A.R. is dark prog - twin guitars and violin with some nice sig changes. Also Anekdoten's earlier works - Nucleus, Vemod, From Within. From way back, St Elmo's Fire were KC - insipred. Splitting Ions in the Ether is a good live album. Guapo - Five Suns. Now there's dark!
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Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:55
Universe Zero? Interesting. If the "darkest band of all time" of what you say about this band is true, then I can't wait to look into them! I got some Van Der Graaf Generator compolation album that had a bunch of thier songs from 1970-75, it was rather dark sounding, but I just didn't really get into it. I may have enjoyed it more if there were no vocals and the Sax was replaced by an elecric guitar... Please don't flame me for that VDGG comment...  ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:58
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I love Robert Smiths music!!!!!!!!!! Opeth is dark sounding......
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Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:58
Wicked With all these recommendations, I'll need to spend a fair bit of time at my local Neighbourhood house downloading tracks on their broardband internet  Then I will have to make a trip to the city in hope of finding the CD's... That will be the biggest challenge... Thanks everyone! ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:59
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I guess these are dark enough and worth to listen: AFTER CRYING (Hungary) - any album PLJ BAND "Armageddon" (Greece) IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO "Ys". ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:18
If you like Japan, you should also try David Sylvian's solo albums, especially Secrets Of The Beehive. |
Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:22
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Osanna (Palepoli) are a cross between VDGG and King Crimson,
which means lots of sax and guitar. I'd also recommend High Tide (if you like Black Sabbath+Hawkwind+violin) and Island, the only song I've listened to so far is amazing. And of course give zeuhl a chance, maybe Magma and Shub Niggurath |
Posted By: Ekzodo
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:27
I`ve listen to David Sylvian "Blemish" album, it`s a great album, very experimental and minimalist. The previous album are like that? ------------- THERE`S TO MUCH MUSIC AND SO LITTLE TIME TO LISTEN TO IT VIVA LA ARGENTINA PROGRESIVA!!!!! |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:55
I haven't heard that one yet. |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 09:59
| Do you have the two albums that precede Red? If not, get those. They have their "dark" moments. |
Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:10
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Einstruzende Neubauten is pretty dark but not really prog ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:41
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Godspeed you black emperor! <----- this is some dark stuff. f you don't believe me then check the reviews
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 10:49
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Brian Eno : "An other Green World"
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:17
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VDGG has some really good dark stuff. Their overall sound IMO is dark.
Check them out. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 11:45
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VdGG is pretty dark TOTAL ANNIHALATION!!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:11
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IF YOU WANT DARK PROG... YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS ALBUM ELIOGABALUS BY DEVIL DOLL VERY GOOD BY THE WAY ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:57
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easy: -Arachnoid -Sleepytime Gorilla Museum ------------- 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 16:44
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THE MARS VOLTA...but you already know that one judging from your name but also FANTOMAS-Delirium Cordia is great |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 18:31
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New one: Discipline, excellent, in the vain of VDGG GY!BE is great too, so is A Silver Mt. Zion |
Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 19:52
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I second Univers Zero. I find Henry Cow and the Art Bears quite dark as well. I've never thought of VdGG as being dark though, just melancholic. |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 20:10
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JACULA-Tardo Pede In Magiam Versus MORTE MACABRE-"Symphonic Holocaust" a lot of songs inspired in a horror films. Just look the cd covers.!
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 20:14
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Anekdoten - Nucleus Anekdoten - vemod ... Go check them out! -------------  
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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 20:16
I am still searching for that JACULA album.. havent heard it yet.. I'm eager to hear it!! Have you heard of liquid scarlet yet (I'm really going apesh*t about this band.. Totally in love with it.. scandinavian stuff you know?!) -------------
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 20:28
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Some of the best 'dark' progressive music I've ever heard and heartily
recommend: Somnambulist - The Paranormal Humidor Somnambulist - Somnambulist Anglagard - Epilog Anglagard - Hybris 5uu's - Crisis in Clay 5uu's - Hunger's Teeth Citizen Cain - Playing Dead Citizen Cain - Somewhere But Yesterday And if you consider Yes' Southside of the Sky 'dark,' then their Relayer album should be right up your alley. It's definitely the darkest of all Yes' albums. |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 20:52
tHE CD COVER THAT APEEARS ON YOUR SIGNATURE CALLS MY ATTENTION AND I SEARCH INFORMATION BUT THE CONTEMPORARY MUSIC DOES NOT INTERESING ME
sorry about my engllish PEACE.! ------------- |
Posted By: `Ubu
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 22:04
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Try Art Bears, In Praise of Learning by Henry Cow and all of Chris Cutler & Fred Frith duo recordings, also Univers Zero and Art Zoyd .. ------------- "..So what´s the speed of dark?.." |
Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 22:47
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To me, Genesis Trespass is as dark and eerie as an album could get. The only album by them with that special quality. Parts of it would've - could've - been nice backing music for movies about ghosts or hauntings. I sometimes wish that Genesis would've stayed with that sound longer than they did, or at least expanded on it more afterward.
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 01:09
I agree with you about Trespass. I also think The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is dark. Certainly the story of Rael is very dark and disturbing. |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 07:53
Contemporary music ?? Like morte macabre, anekdoten for example?? -------------
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Posted By: alatas
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 08:09
What about The Flower Kings, The Pink Floyd  (as if you didn't already know that!), some tracks off Transatlantic like 'We All Need Some Light Now' and the last segment of 'Full Moon Rising'...great dark stuff!
Oh, there's also Peter Hammil (not sure if he's considered prog or not) but his stuff is pretty dark. ------------- "Today is yesterday's tomorrow" |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 23:23
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Wow! Thanks alot everyone, now I have alot of research to do; looking into these bands. Should be fun!
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Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: November 26 2005 at 23:46
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Sweedish band are good in that You can add in the same line of Anekdoten Anglagard and Morte Macabre Landberk; more hard to find but excellent. ------------- La cuisine c,est comme l,amour, il faut y croire pour que ca marche |
Posted By: andYouandI45
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 00:06
| I've always though that King Crimson sounds dark in general |
Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 00:12
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To these 4 incredible bands I will add the norwegians WHITE WILLOW, KVAZAR & MIKROMIDAS... The last album by WHITE WILLOW is very dark and dense... the title is "Storm Season"...
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Posted By: Plastic Man
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 03:33
i know exactly what you mean about 'southside of the sky', i had a fairly distrubing dream about that song recently. van der graff generator's "Pawn Hearts" is incredibly dark, and takes a long time to get into, but when you do, believe me, its amazing (its their only album i have right now, but thats only because im broke). king crimsons first album is also really dark and disturbing, and of course "dark side of the moon". im really interested in the darker side of things myself. i want to go into greater detail about this stuff later, but im going to bed now. ------------- I begin to wonder if the points of all the ancient myths are solemnly di-rected straight.. at.. meeeeeeeeee! |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 03:52
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 12:40
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Glad to see someone else suggest Discipline. Unfolded Like Staircase will take you on on a very dark journey indeed. ...and I must agree with those opinions on VdGG...Godbluff and Pawn Hearts are extremely dark. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 14:35
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I can't find any Discipline on Amazon, any ideas where I can obtain some of their albums? Hmm, the same as what everyone else says really... King Crimson, Anekdoten, Van der Graaf Generator, Anglagard... not forgetting Comus of course (just "First Utterance" though), they are dark prog-folk. -------------   
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Posted By: Plastic Man
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 14:54
"In the Court of the Crimson King" scares me so much that i wet myself when I hear it...Well, not really, but again, if you want me to go into detail about that particular album I would like to, but this post is alreay so long. ------------- I begin to wonder if the points of all the ancient myths are solemnly di-rected straight.. at.. meeeeeeeeee! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 14:57
If you want some Dark Prog Metal, Try Evergrey, it will blow your brains out 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 15:03
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Yes, especially The Inner Circle. Other great dark and melancholic prog metal albums:
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Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 16:21
well Morte Macabre is the exeption ------------- |
Posted By: genesis24601
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 18:27
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I think that every Prog band has had dark moments. I'm not sure what
this post is asking. Are you talking about the key of the song? Minor
keys are quite dark. Or do you mean the lyrics? With issues such as
suicide or death? Or do you mean both? I am guessing you mean both. Anyways, here are some bands with dark moments: Pink Floyd(The Wall) Genesis(The Lamb, Trespass) King Crimson (I haven't heard all of the albums, but what I have heard here, it's dark) Porcupine Tree(The song Waiting Phase One(which you can listen to here) is dark) There are countless other bands that have dark moments. Only Marlyn Manson that I know is completely dark and depressing. Unless you can prove me wrong. ------------- "It is impossible to achieve the aim without suffering." - Robert Fripp, from the title track of Exposure |
Posted By: Progfans
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 19:09
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If you re looking for discipline a;bum you can chek on this site lasercd.com or http://synphonic.8m.com/ They are 2 good sites ------------- La cuisine c,est comme l,amour, il faut y croire pour que ca marche |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: November 27 2005 at 21:51
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Gecko, try again...I found it on amazon pretty effortlessly...If you are using the UK's amazon, try the USA's version instead. You cannot get it used, so it is a tad pricey at $17.99 |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 28 2005 at 23:01
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Yes, I was using the UK Amazon, all I kept finding was King Crimson
(not that that is a bad thing of course) and some other stuff on the
Discipline label, but not the band! Well, I did come across a
different band named Discipline. I even typed in some album names with no luck. Maybe I shall try the US site. Thank you also Progfans, I shall do some investigating. -------------
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 13:22
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I adore Dark Music.I was listening to Doom-Metal Bands before I was involved in Prog
So.. LACRIMOSA.They're not Prog (IMHO),but they're VERY dark(maybe.the darkest band on Archives) Surely ,early MARILLION.I like them for this Darkness Any Doom band - I'd recommend you ESTATIC FEAR,OPETH,KATATONIA,MY DYING BRIDE... See ya in Darkness! Enjoy!
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 13:30
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You know, I never thought of Red as "dark" or "South Side" either. Why is it dark? If you consider this dark, what do you consider Death Metal band music? "Super dark"? ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: BebieM
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 13:58
Have you heard any of their other two albums (Push and Profit, Into the Dream ... Discipline live)? I'm curious about their sound but I can't find them anywhere ..... |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 00:43
Whoa, that sounds like a cool dream, I love scary dreams - the dreams within dreams are the weirdest and scariest. I'd be interested to hear about how SSOTS scares you... Yeah, I got out my VDGG CD out again, listened to it about 4 times (spanning over 4 days) and it didn't get me. Some of their sections are really cool and scary, but then they do key changes that don't seem to fit in and ruin the mood that the song had been establishing, the singer also does some really annoying sounding things at times, like the bit about building a statue for 10 centuries ago  I'll try them again in another 6 months... Yeah, go on about In The Court, I'm interested in how different people react to different things. I littened to it last night, that bit about the yellow jester doesn't play but gently pulls the strings is really eerie and cool... Thanks for the long response! I found it intteresting... ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 00:48
The key of the song contributes alot, but really it's just Prog music that gives of dark, eerie, evil moods... I don't know hoe else to explain it. Also I guess it's the colour of the song, different songs make me imagine different colours inside my head, dark music gives of black, reds, crimsons, dark browns etc. The lyrics can contribute a fair bit too, but the music gives off this mood the most... ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 00:55
It's all about the mood and colours that the songs give off. South Side seems to be dark coloured with lots of greys, also the key (sounds like some sort of minor) makes it sound dark. Listen to the chorus and try to think of the colours and mood - does it seem dark? Or when you listen to music, maybe you think about very different things... I don't find Death metal THAT dark, it is rather dark sounding, but mostly aggressive. I want to listen to more scary, atmospheric, eerie music rather than aggressive. I hope what I have said in this post and my last post helps people understand what I mean by "dark" music. Can other people who feel the same way about the mentioned songs help me out??? ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 04:13
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Some excellent points tremulant. I class Comus as dark too then, the music and lyrics certainly make me think about troublesome things. King Crimson should be dark to me, but they just are not. I agree they have dark lyrics, but they do affect me in the same way. The ending of "Easy Money" is quite weird though and so is Gordon Haskell's maniacal laughing on the end of erm... (brain seizure) ... Games the third track off the Lizard album. Oh and the marching drum sound on "Epitaph" is also dark and reminds me of soldiers marching through the killing fields. Van der Graaf Generator are also dark lyrically. I think pH's lyrics are misunderstood by people, or cannot be fathomed. Once you are aware of how it all fits together, your listening experience is so much more satisfying. Some of Par Lindh Project is dark too, some of the instumental stuff sounds like Nubuo Uematsu (he of Final Fantasy fame) a lot of the time. In fact, the middle section of "Baroque Impression No. 1" reminds me a lot of Kefka's March, or whatever the piece is called. -------------
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Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 08:59
Thanks! Glad to make a difference(I guess)!! ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 03 2005 at 13:55
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er, Anekdoten.....actually, I think you're fairly safe with anything that comes out of Sweden... must be the long cold nights.. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: December 04 2005 at 21:35
| DARK PROG IS PSYCHOTIC WALTZ |
Posted By: Bt-Tor
Date Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:00
| Marillion's second album Fugazi is pretty dark and brooding, especially 'She Chameleon'. I highly recommend this track to hear Marillion at their darkest. Sounds like a dissonant funeral dirge concerning depravity and whores... enjoy! |
Posted By: Starette
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 05:28
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King Crimsons Larks Tongues in Aspic is pretty eerie. It's music for nutters- believe me. ------------- 50 tonne angel falls to the earth... |
Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: December 07 2005 at 11:30
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I think Magma were meant to be fairly dark. any band who dress all in black with invertedtantra symbols and give mock hitler speeches in between drum solos cannot be too nice I also find the third ear band quite dark, if you can stomach their music |
Posted By: splooie
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 18:48
| SLEEPYTIME GORILLA MUSEUM!!!!! Darkest thing ever!!!! lots of off time signatures and a very unique sound. it doesnt get darker than this. they have two albums i recommend them both. and if you get a chance to see them live, you are in for one hell of a show |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: December 11 2005 at 23:31
tremulant, are you synesthetic? My girlfriend is, and music makes her literally see different colors... I was sad to see she didn't see KC's Red as red. If you
are, well... not everyone sees the same sets of colors, and they
don't all see them for the same things. However... based on
what you call dark... I'd recommend Anglagard's first album,
Indukti, Wobbler, and Anekdoten, as well as the first Proto-Kaw disc. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: goat willow
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 15:24
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New to this site...been a progressive rock fan since the beginning of time...like to see people mixing it up through the decades - Van der Graaf/GSYBE/Genesis/Japan/Sylvian...one of my favourite albums of all time is the one-off, self-titled by INDIAN SUMMER...for me, it's perfect from start-to-finish dark, jazzy progressive rock...in my top five...search out the original vinyl on RCA NEON or the cd on REPERTOIRE... I've had the gatefold vinyl since the early 70's...to add to the reviews on the site, I think they sound like a much darker Traffic. PEACE. ------------- The Hebridean Hawklord |
Posted By: Zweck
Date Posted: December 15 2005 at 17:37
| Just listen to Sisters Of Mercy and you will all know perfection. |
Posted By: tremulant
Date Posted: December 24 2005 at 07:07
No I'm not synesthetic, but I find that highly amusing... It's my own imagination that makes me see these colours inside my head. I don't know... It's hard to explain... ------------- My solo music: http://www.myspace.com/anthropiate - ANTHROPIATE |