Most Influential Prog Drummer
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Topic: Most Influential Prog Drummer
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Subject: Most Influential Prog Drummer
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:34
| OK...perhaps I forgot one or two. These were the ones I listened to the most back in the late 70's. There were other none Prog drummers, but due to this website focus, I omitted them. |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:38
| Peart |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:43
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Bonham |
Posted By: walrus
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 18:50
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bruford influenced every drummer, no doubt. maybe there are betters or speedest, but any of those had the importance that bruford have... ------------- you and whose army? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:04
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All of them! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:06
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I love Peart but I do think Bruford may have been more influential. -------------  |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:08
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Definitely Bruford!!!
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:15
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Bonham? Prog drummer? I thought he used to play for Led Zeppelin! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Green and Funky
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 21:29
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Neil Peart was equal parts power, technical ability, and
creativity. I love all these drummers, but I think Peart (though he himself was influenced greatly by Palmer, Bonzo, Moon, Bruford?, Collins) was most influential in his style (followed very closely by Bonham). What about Billy Cobham, Keith Moon? ------------- Your hands and feet are mangos, you're gonna be a genius anyway |
Posted By: -bp-
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 22:10
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Bruford, although Peart was very influential Bruford was imo the first great prog drummer, and because of this it is very possible that he inlufenced Peart in one way or another. ------------- 
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Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 22:57
Ginger Baker of Cream. 
------------- ...this is called....BleedingGum ... ! |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 23:06
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Neil Peart -------------  
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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:46
| I think it has to be Peart. He has influence on metal druumers too. That gives him the edge. He he he |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:54
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This place is littered with Rush fans Neil Peart has influenced many drummers, in his time but Bill Bruford by far is progressive rock's greatest and most influential drummer, even being an influence on Neil himself... Bonham? Not prog.... Alan White...Underated, but not influential at all...IMO many still to this day lament over Bill leaving Yes and White taking over.... Phil's hard hitting swing has only been influential in two drummers that I have heard (Nick D'Virgillio and Paul Ramsey) Carl Palmer is essentially predated Neil Peart by a few years. Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:52
 I think that's well put! Bruford is the most influential, when you consider all he has done. |
Charles wrote:Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:10
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Thank you Phil... One thing I forgot to mention is that Phil Collins mistakenly became a pioneer (or innovator?) when Peter and Hugh Padgham over compensated for not having cymbals being played on Peter's 3 album, which started the "gate reverb" sound that dominated the way drums were recorded during the 80's...
Thanks Phil!
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:17
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What about Mike Giles? A lot of drummers started drumming like him after ITCOTCK was released ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:30
| I love Peart, but I think he's not a pure prog drummer, having also played in a more hard rock-heavy metal style, and as such having influenced most prog-metal drummers. Bruford, though, is the archetypal prog drummer, therefore the most influential in the genre. |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:34
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My original post started out mentioning that, two others I also mentioned were Carl Palmer and Jim Hiseman (Listen to his drumming on "Valentyne Suite") but I was hoping that someone else would mention that so that the thread would not seem like me being a wiseguy no it all....
But getting back to the thread, How many artists when they heard King Crimson's debut did not want to be like Robert Fripp? Steve Hackett for one was a disciple... Or sing as heavenly like Greg Lake? Expand on the creepy Mellotron washes from Ian McDonald? Tony Banks, Brian Eno and Peter Bardens.... Michael Giles helped influence Bill Bruford, Guy Evans, Andy McCollough, Andy Ward the list can become ponderous.... but many associate Prog drumming to Bill Bruford more than any other dumming this side of Neil Peart....
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:43
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In another thread I also mentioned the absence of Giles. From the list I vote for BRUFORD. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:44
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Peart or Bonham |
Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 11:46
| brufford is more important, but Peart had more influence in almost any rock drummer post-Rush. |
Posted By: Flip_Stone
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:21
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Since Bruford and Peart get mentioned a lot, it would be good to point out one big difference between the two. Peart is from the school of thought that what ever you play on the albums is exactly what you have to play live. It's a very robotic mentality. Bruford on the other hand, comes from the school of improvisation, that says it's not only good, but healthy, to alter things live. The free-form flexibility of Bruford's approach is a lot more interesting and expressive, not only for the musician himself/herself, but for the listener too. I still say that much of Peart's appeal comes from his lyrics writing, instead of pure drumming.
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Posted By: cucacola54
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 13:54
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Bruford ------------- Most listened albums last week 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 14:27
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Bill Bruford ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:06
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In my opinion, Neil Peart... Since the 80's I'm hearing many drummers that have the style of Peart, more than Palmer, Bruford (more jazzy I think) or Collins... You listed John Bonham but I think that Keith Moon (The Who) is more important than him as a drummer... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 24 2005 at 02:16
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Billy Cobham kinda smokes them all on the 1973
Spectrum album. 
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Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: November 24 2005 at 02:29
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Defineatly Palmer!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 00:37
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Most influential could be Bruford, Collins, Palmer or Peart, all have a lot of followers and fans. Best: Phil Ehart and after him Manu Katche. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 08:23
True Ivan, but most progressive rock drummers of nowadays are directly in debted to Bill Bruford as for Peart and Collins were seriously influenced by Bill.
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:01
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ALL THE DRUMMERS OF THE LIST ARE GREAT, AND THEY INFLUENCED A LOT OF BANDS AND "YOUNG" OR "NEW" DRUMMERS... MY VOTE´S FOR BRUFORD ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: November 25 2005 at 14:26
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Tough choice, but I went for Bruford other than him it would have been Carl
Palmer. |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:03
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What's everyone's view on the influencers drummers of today? I hear much fast playing (rolls and double bass stuff) in Modern/Extreme rock as well as Metal. Fast doesn't translate to Prog of course, but for the bands of today, do the Prog drummers of old have influence? I'm sure Danny Carey of Tool had some influence from the masters and I bet Crimson had a huge impact on his style, not to mention the band as a whole. More info, I heard on a radio interview with the band Seven Mary Three that the drummer used to be a huge Peart fan, but he plays nothing like Peart as you can tell by hearing their music.
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Posted By: Zooka_Jesus
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:19
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all carl palmer does is play slighty faster than the average rock drummer, i voted for bill ------------- Gentle Gaint owns every prog band 
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: November 29 2005 at 15:25
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CARL PALMER |