Vinyl experts needed!
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Topic: Vinyl experts needed!
Posted By: ummagumma08
Subject: Vinyl experts needed!
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 09:58
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I had a very interesting discussion with one of Copenhagen's vinyl-venders today, he shoved me a copy of Magmas first LP on the black phillips label and claimed that the pressing with the black phillips label is the original first issue, I informed him that I had a pressing with the blue phillips label, which I've always assumed to be the first original pressing, but he didn't even knew of the blue label in connection with this record!
Which is the original first pressing? |
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:04
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You mean Kobaļa ? I'm not too sure about this one, as Philips used the blue label into the early 1970s in Europe, but released some albums on the black label as early as 1967. For example, Blue Cheer's "Vincebus Eruptum" (1967) was released on black in the UK and blue in Holland. So it's very probable that the Danish FP was on the blue label, but equally probable that the UK press was on black. Sorry I can't be more definite - I'm not even au fait with Philips' matrix numbers - but those might give you a clue: If the matrix (in the run-out towards the label) ends -1 on both sides, then chances are very good that it's a FP. Cover printers can be useful identifiers too - a Garrod and Lofthouse cover could indicate an early package on an LP from 1970, but an E J Day cover nails it as a first press just about every time (with exceptions, as ever...). However, all the late 1960s Philips pressings I own do not give credit to the cover printers - and all are black labelled UK pressings. I hope someone else has the definitive answer |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 04:11
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We've got the same avatars ummammmguummaa
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Posted By: ummagumma08
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 10:46
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I found this info on the internet, the issue I have is the one mentioned first, French pressing on the blue label, but without the sticker (unfortunately) MAGMA Cover is printed by "DILLARD et Cie. Imp. Paris" Here are the (seemingly unlogical) matrix numbers: Side 1: PHI 6395001 6311022 1 380 Side 2: 6311022 2 380 03950012 side 3: 6395002 1 = D1 + 380 side 4: 6311023 2 380 6395002 (the combinations 6311022 (on side 1 & 2) and 6311023 (on side 4) seem to be crossed, each individual number is marked by a cross, as if it may be a misprint?) It seems pretty likely that I have the first issue
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