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Topic: TRAIN OF THOUGHT-Love or Hate
Posted By: YtseJammer
Subject: TRAIN OF THOUGHT-Love or Hate
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 03:29
It is a great album imo!!!It is prog,it is metal and I think it is kind of unque!What is your opinion?



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 03:54
I love it.....always have!

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Posted By: Cygnus
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 04:49

MEDIOCRE......................................



Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 04:59
Neither. I don't find it as bad as others do, but I can't honestly say I love it. As a matter of fact, I don't love anything DT have done so far. Love is far too strong a word.


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 05:13
I love most of it.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 05:43
LOVE.

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Posted By: magog
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 05:56
"...And justice for all" copy


Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 05:57
Love it!!!! though not their best,,......

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Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 05:59
I don't like it even though I like metal. I think the emphasis of the album was on heaviness and they lost the sense of melody. Octavarium is better.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 06:00

^

Agree.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 06:14

Originally posted by magog magog wrote:

"...And justice for all" copy

Is it? Where?



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Posted By: jman89
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 06:19
F'n love it! At first I was fairly so-so with this, but over time and watching Drums of Thought, the Making Of and Live in Budokan, this has grown on me soo fast..same goes for 6DOIT!


Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 06:35
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by magog magog wrote:

"...And justice for all" copy

Is it? Where?

There's some "...And Justice for all" vibe to "This Dying Soul", so the graduates of the What Some Bloke in the Pub Told Me University and the Hear One Riff You Know The Whole Album Conservatory are perfectly justified in their opinion.



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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 06:38
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by magog magog wrote:

"...And justice for all" copy

Is it? Where?

There's some "...And Justice for all" vibe to "This Dying Soul", so the graduates of the What Some Bloke in the Pub Told Me University and the Hear One Riff You Know The Whole Album Conservatory are perfectly justified in their opinion.

I'll check that track again so I can here this rip off!



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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 07:10

Why is it always Love it or Hate it????

Where is the "Like it" option?

I don't love it,I don't hate it,but I like it.I like the heaviness of it but think compared to their other work it is a sub-par DT album.



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 07:15
^ it's only slightly below par for me ... enough to say that I love to listen to it.

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 07:24
Right on Progtologist- seems to be a lot of black and white opinions on the postings. What about the myriad colours between. Even a computer can cram in 16 million variations between those two extremes, and it only knows the difference between on or off


Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 07:25
I don't hate it but it's a sub-par album by  Dream Theater.


Posted By: Ytse Jam
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 07:37
LOVE


Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:13
Neither.


Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:17

i'm a DREAM THEATER fan since 8 years and my favourite albums are in order:

1) IMAGES AND WORDSWink

2) SCENES FROM A MEMORY Wink

3) AWAKE

4) CHANGE OF SEASON

5) SIX DEGREES OF INNER TURBOLENCE

6) OCTAVARIUM

7) LIVE AT MARQUEE

8) TRAIN OF THOUGHTS



Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:28
why  only love or hate for this poll ?  I am in between  I like it but don`t love it


Posted By: proger
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:31
its a fine album, not a lot of feel in thus album and its shime, i love the old DT

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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:32
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by magog magog wrote:

"...And justice for all" copy

Is it? Where?

There's some "...And Justice for all" vibe to "This Dying Soul", so the graduates of the What Some Bloke in the Pub Told Me University and the Hear One Riff You Know The Whole Album Conservatory are perfectly justified in their opinion.

I'll check that track again so I can here this rip off!

There's a quotation from "Blackened" in the vocal melodies somewhere in the middle.

There's also a famous quotation from Baudelaire's "Au lecteur" in Eliot's "The Wasteland". So "The Wasteland" is a copy of "Au lecteur", then? 

   



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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 08:33
I might not love it, but I like it!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:04
I wouldnt say i love it but its definatly a good album, better than Octavarium at least.

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Posted By: Solids2k
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:23
Really great album. As a fan of both progressive rock and metal it really appeals to my taste, it gives Dream Theater the excuse to be a wank/shred fest. Although I like to consider it a one time deal and expect more clever songwriting from their other material.


Posted By: buckethead
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:30
good album, but definetly not dt's best. i like their older material a lot more. so i'm somewhere between love and hate.


Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:31
somewhere between. Can't love it, but I like it.

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 11:48
Ditto- in between- don't really like it- but dont HATE it.


Posted By: liquidtheater
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 12:32
I am a huge dream theater fan but train of thought is by far the worst album they have made.The only song that keeps my attention for the entire song is sot and thats only sometimes and vacant would have been great if labrie didnt ruin it so i wouldnt say i hate it but i dislike it quite a bit.

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Posted By: Shark Sandwich
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 16:59

 I only checked it out recently and thought it was only OK. I thought 'As I Am' and the instrumental track to be the most interesting songs. I'll give it a few more spins to see if it grows on me further.



Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:04

Top-3:

  1. Images & Words (1992) (5/5)
  2. Awake (1994) (5/5)
  3. Train of Thought (2003) (4.5/5)

I love it!



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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:05

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I wouldnt say i love it but its definatly a good album, better than Octavarium at least.

Yes, indeed it is better than Octavarium : DT do on this album a good combination of metal and prog and there are no filler.



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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:07
I've been to their Train of thought -tour concert in Rotterdam and played live the songs are so much more powerfull then on the album, they also played some ToT this year on the Octavarium tour concerts in Amsterdam.

After hearing the songs played live I started to "love" this album.


Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:07
Their worst that I have, by far. And I have seven of their studio albums.

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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:31
I like it but don't love it and is not as bad as the review say. Although it is more heavy than previous works, and I really like DT for their good vibe like in I&W, SFAM and SDOIT, I found it like they where trying to balance out their work because SDOIT was almost always soft and then TOT was super heavy. I look at it as a team between the soft SDOIT with the hard TOT.

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Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:33
Absolutely love it! To me it`s the best they`ve made so far

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Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:36
     Speaking of trains, can we get off this loving or hating train?
There's lots of levels to appreciate music on, but hating isn't
really one of them. I mean, not counting Britney Spears.


Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:41
Love it 

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 17:43


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 19:31

Same here , Miracle.



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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 20:03
Somewhere in between.

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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: November 22 2005 at 20:17
I like the album, but the songs are either songs that you love or hate.  This is one of the few Dream Theater albums that i see as one in song to song format rather than album format.  Songs like In the Name of God and Stream of Conciusness are absolutely amazing, but other songs like As I Am or Honor Thy Father are average at best.

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