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Topic: Best Jazz influenced prog songs?
Posted By: TheLamb
Subject: Best Jazz influenced prog songs?
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 11:53

I tried to introduce some good prog to some of my friends that only play (and listen to) jazz music. I let them hear some ELP, Genesis and Gentle Giant, just to give them a taste of what prog is about, and they apparently didn't like it...

It would probably be easier for them to start with some jazz influenced prog... Got any ideas?

 

thanks



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Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 11:55

could be

King Crimson - Islands



Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:02
Sweet Smoke is jazz influenced. The album Just a Poke is fabtastic you should try it out.


Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:20
Could start them off on Mahavishnu Orchestra. Not really prog, but it's closer to prog than any other type of jazz. Hell, Chick Corea was influenced by Yes when he was doing Return to Forever.

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Posted By: silentman
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:25
italian group Area

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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:25
Originally posted by silentman silentman wrote:

italian group Area
That one too. And Perigeo. And Henry Cow while you're at it.

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Posted By: Ipacial Section
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:26

As representative of Radiohead....

These are the Radiohead songs that are jazz influenced....

Big Ideas
The National Anthem
Optimistic
You & Whose Army?
Life in a Glasshouse
Kinetic
We Suck Young Blood
A Punchup at a Wedding



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Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:42

LIQUID SCARLET - II
LIQUID SCARLET - KILLER COUPLE STRIKES AGAIN EP (song 3+4 IS jazz!)
Paatos - timeloss



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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:50
Or you could try "Paradigm Shift" by Liquid Tension Experiment. That might be too much of a shock though... Gentle Giant might appeal to a jazz fan, though.

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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 12:59
There is sub-genre of prog called Jazz-Rock/Fusion.  If you don't mind to look up those fields, you might find there something interesting for your friends and yourself as well

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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:02
Planet X - Interlude in Milan

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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:03

Emerson Lake & Palmer

TARCUS

 

 

KING CRIMSON- ISLAND

 

 

 

 

MAYBE GONG



Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:05
Some of The Mars Volta's got some nice jazz inspired play going on.

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Posted By: TheLamb
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:21

thanks for the nice ideas! keep em coming...

 

btw, dosen't have to be directly influenced it can also be just slightly "jazzy" or jazzy in parts, not necessarily the whole song.... Paradigm shift by the way is SO GOOD, huge thanks for that one! also Biaxident and stuff... liquid tension owns...



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Posted By: BleedingGum
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:25
TANGENT - both albums have jazz-influenced composition.

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:26
Soft Machine (from Third onwards), Brand X, Bruford among others ...

Another really interesting one if you can find it ... is Back Door!


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Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:28
the whole planet x album "Moonbabies" is a jazz fusion!

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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:30
Come on people, Sweet Smoke. The band is fantastic!


Posted By: harm s.
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:38
You could try something by FOCUS, a Dutch band who play a very interesting blend of rock, jazz and classical music. Some people complain that some of their tracks are filled with too much jamming, but people who like jazz are used to endless intrumental passages. I think jazz-minded people will like the longer jams. I know I do.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 13:57

Aurora by Jean Luc Ponty, essential masterpiece.

Iván



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Posted By: zabriskiepoint
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:03
Santana's Caravanserai?


Posted By: AcostaFulano
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 14:47

Tribal tech, some songs of vital tech tones.... and also chick corea's return to forever



Posted By: Froth
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:04

Soft Machine 2 and 3 would be safe bets.... as would caravan's 'If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You' and Hatfield's 'The Rotter's Club'

If they dont like them well, there great albums for yourself any way!  



Posted By: Hendrix828
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:17
Originally posted by TheLamb TheLamb wrote:

I tried to introduce some good prog to some of my friends that only play (and listen to) jazz music. I let them hear some ELP, Genesis and Gentle Giant, just to give them a taste of what prog is about, and they apparently didn't like it...

It would probably be easier for them to start with some jazz influenced prog... Got any ideas?

 

thanks

 

Soft Machine

From Vol. 1-Why Am I So Short-So Boot If At All

Vol. 2-Pataphysical introduction Part 2

Henry Cow

Teenbeat from Leg End

 



Posted By: pero
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 04:06

Billy Cobham - Spectrum, Crosswinds

Mahavishnu orchestra - Birds of fire, From nothingness to eternity

Chick Corea - Return to forever

Gong - Gazeuse, Shamal, Expresso II

Colosseum - Valentyne suite, Live

Santana - Caravanserai

Eumir Deodato - Prelude

Passport - Looking thru

Frank Zappa - Waka Jawaka, Joe's garage, We are here only for money, Bongo fury, Jazz from hell....

King Crimson - Earthbond



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:19
Well to answer the question wrt jazz influenced prog.  Nice's Rondo is the first and obvious choice - significantly borrowed from Dave Brubeck Quartet's Blue Rondo A La Turk, a modern jazz reading of Mozart's Rondo A La Turka. DBQ's Time Out and At Carnegie Hall, are precursors to prog, if ever there were ones.


Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:50
King Crimson - Lizard is extremely jazzy.


Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 06:11
Roulette Dares (The Haunt of)


Posted By: pero
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 06:48

Originally posted by Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan wrote:

Roulette Dares (The Haunt of)

Is that your picture Lindsay?



Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 07:15

I would answer the works of BILL BRUFORD, but they are mostly jazz, not jazz influenced rock. There's some nice jazz elements in the music of BLOOD, SWEAT & TEARS and TASAVALLAN PRESIDENTTI!



Posted By: Korova
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 07:37
Almost everything by Area, the whole canterbury scene (soft machine, caravan, htfield and the north etc..) or weathe report, return to forever and many others. Jazz influence has bees very important for many prog band. 

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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 08:26

Some of my favorite jazz-rock songs:

  • Brand X - Nuclear Burn
  • Brand X - Disco Suicide
  • Gong - Chandra
  • Gong - Percolations 1 & 2
  • Soft Machine - Teeth
  • Return To Forever - The Duel of The Jester And The Tyrant
  • Frank Zappa - Inca Roads
  • Frank Zappa - Eat That Question



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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 14:07
Gentle Giant - The Face!



Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:29
Arti & Mestieri - Articolazioni
Hatfield & The North - The Yes No Interlude
Matching Mole - Part Of The Dance
Embryo - Dreaming Girls


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 18:01
The soft machine - Third.
Try the song "slightly all the time"


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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 18:06
relayer by Yes. Suprised I'm the first.

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 18:08
Colosseum
Keef Hartley Band/Dog Soldier
Neil Ardley
Keith Tippett
Henry Lowther Band
Dick Heckstall-Smith
Mogul Thrash
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Jazz Is Dead (jazz versions of Grateful Dead, one album features Billy Cobham)
Miles Davis (Bitches Brew era)
Soft Machine (their later albums)
Weather Report
Gonzalez

And not prog, but:

Derek Trucks Band
Allman Brothers Band (In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed)
Gov't Mule (Babylon Turnpike, Live versions of Afro Blue)


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Posted By: yargh
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 18:43
Area, Soft Machine, Nucleus, King Crimson's "Lizard," Frank Zappa's "Hot Rats," Waka/Jawaka" and "Grand Wazoo." 


Posted By: arqwave
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 20:23

hey... you've forgotten YES' CLOSE TO THE EDGE, the whole structure of the drums and bass are based on a circle of jazz, ELP's KARN EVIL 9 PART II a master interpretation á la Oscar Peterson. Pure jazz influenced music.

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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:18
Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

King Crimson - Lizard is extremely jazzy.
Everyone keeps saying that, but I've always thought it to be more classical-influenced than jazzy. At least the title track is.

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Posted By: ldlanberg
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:25

I'll go with "Sailor's Tale" on King Crimson Islands.



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Posted By: illustrated
Date Posted: November 23 2005 at 21:55

Ok...

The Soft Machine - Volume One (Hope for Happiness; So Boot If at All; Save Yourself; Lullabye Letter)

The Soft Machine - Volume Two (Hibou, Anemone, and Bear; Dada Was Here; As Long as He Lies Perfectly Still; Pig; 10:30 Returns to the Bedroom)

The Soft Machine - Third (Slightly all the Time; Moon in June; Out-Bloody-Rageous)

Frank Zappa - Uncle Meat (Listen to the whole thing...)

Frank Zappa - Hot Rats (Peaches en Regalia; Son of Mr. Green Genes; The Gumbo Variations... and the others...)

Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North (Calyx; Son of There's No Place Like Homerton; Rifferama; Shaving is Boring; Gigantic Land Crabs in Earth Takeover Bid)

Gong - You (Master Builder; A Sprinkling of Clouds; The Isle of Everywhere; You Never Blow Yr' Trip Forever)

And, many other albums by Weather Report, Return to Forever, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, The Mahavishnu Orchestra, Area, Brand X...



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