Supertramp or Kate Bush
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Topic: Supertramp or Kate Bush
Posted By: horza
Subject: Supertramp or Kate Bush
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 18:48
Someone said in a recent thread that Kate Bush deserves to be in the PA more than Supertramp.What do YOU think?
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:11
Both... and also Wishbone Ash (I'm campaigning for them ).
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Posted By: matti meikäläin
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:12
infact, idont know. i haven't heard supertramp. i have heard kick inside from kate bush, it's pretty good
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Posted By: anael
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:32
matti meikäläin wrote:
infact, idont know. i haven't heard supertramp.
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I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!
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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:57
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 18:43
John Gargo wrote:
Supertramp is more prog. |
Agree!
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Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:01
I haven't even heard any Kate Bush, though Supertramp do deserve a
place, if even only in Prog Related. They do use a lot of
keyboards.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:08
Despite the terrible Dreamer, the album Crime of the Century was a prog release, I haven't heard a single 100% Prog album by Kate Bush.
She has a pretty voice and some good songs, but shouldn't be in Prog Archives.
If it was only for the songs Crime of the Century and School I would still vote for Supertramp.
Iván
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Posted By: ChadFromCanada
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:25
ivan_2068 wrote:
Despite the terrible Dreamer, the album Crime of
the Century was a prog release, I haven't heard a single 100% Prog
album by Kate Bush.
She has a pretty voice and some good songs, but shouldn't be in Prog Archives.
If it was only for the songs Crime of the Century and School I would still vote for Supertramp.
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What do you think of Child of Vision, from Breakfast in America?
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:34
horza wrote:
Someone said in a recent thread that Kate Bush deserves to be in the PA more than Supertramp.What do YOU think? |
I think they both deserve to be here.
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 01:52
What do you think of Child of Vision, from Breakfast in America? |
I said if it was only for Crime of the Century and School, never said only for those songs, I believe it means (Unless my English is worst than I think it is) that those two songs are so good that even if Supertramp hadn't released any other Progressive song, those two would be enough to include them.
Of course there are other great songs, Even in the Quietest Moments is a very good album, Crisis What's Crisis? also.
But honestly I have Breakfast in America and thinking in giving that CD a good use (probably a coaster). I already burned Child of Vision (Great track) in a personal Supertramp anthology, because the rest of the album isn't IMO worth the plastic in which it was recorded.
Iván
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 03:06
I think Supertramp comes closest to prog as we know it, meaning that they made several extended pieces, longtracks. Kate Bush sticks more to the song format than Supertramp, but Kate's melodies, arrangements and themes are very innovating, much more than Supertramp's.
So in a way it's 1 - 1.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 15:50
Supertramp is the correct answer but I prefer Kate's music.
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 15:54
Fool's Overture is 100% prog by Supertramp
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Posted By: karmaminstrel
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:33
Weird comparison, who comes up with these?
Anyway never really liked Kate Bush's stuff so its got to be Supertramp. Crisis what crisis was a terrific album.
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Posted By: robertplantowns
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 18:49
karmaminstrel wrote:
Weird comparison, who comes up with these?
Anyway never really liked Kate Bush's stuff so its got to be Supertramp. Crisis what crisis was a terrific album.
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There is no comparison being made at all. The poll is to see whether fans think Supertramp or Kate Bush are more prog because a statement was made that Kate Bush deserves to be on the site more than Supertramp because Supertramp isn't prog and Kate Bush is. The poll doesn't ask whether you like Kate Bush or Supertramp more, it simply asks who in your determination is more prog.
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Posted By: karmaminstrel
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 19:18
Oh i see, silly me.
Even sillier me to think that Kate Bush was just a faded old pop singer.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 20 2005 at 21:02
I prefer Kate Bush ...
Supertramp is not my cup of coffee
But Kate Bush is less prog than Supertramp i think
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 21 2005 at 05:25
What I've heard of Supertramp is not that progressive IMO. They have an original sound, but they dont seem to make music that is in any way complex or conceptual. Overall they seem pretty commercial to me. I quite like what I've heard though.
Kate Bush on the other hand, despite having had numerous hit singles and an often 'pop' approach to making music, has composed long 'suites' has fused completely different styles, and sounds. 'ASky of Honey' and 'The Ninth Wave' demonstrate this clearly, with Welsh male voice choirs against submarine sonars and Irish jigs. Also, 'The Dreaming' album is perhaps one of the strangest and eclectic albums I've ever heard, complete with diggereedoos, bird song, donkey impressions and talking drums... Kate wins, although I dont have any objection to Supertramp being here under prog related.
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 13:25
It's strange to put Kate Bush and Supertramp into one hat and then ask who's better...
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 13:34
rupert wrote:
It's strange to put Kate Bush and Supertramp into one hat and then ask who's better... |
horza didn't ask who's better, he asked who's more prog.
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: March 01 2006 at 16:15
Both
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 06:06
I've always liked both, but as the question is "who is more prog?", I voted for Kate Bush. In fact, Supertramp may have long songs with keyboards and such, but Kate's output has always been very innovative, blending classical and ethnic influences, multilayered vocal arrangements, complex subject matter and eerie atmospheres. That said, I think both deserve to be in ProgArchives.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 07:08
How in gods name can you compare the two We must really be bored to death on this site ..GEE HOW ABOUT ""THE STONES VS. ''CARLY SIMON""" come on people
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 07:11
Bj-1 wrote:
John Gargo wrote:
Supertramp is more prog. |
Agree!
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Me, too
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 09:04
Supertramp
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: March 06 2006 at 09:48
Who's more "prog" ??? Very hard to tell, dear Hozra ( hope you got me right now about Pink Floyd ! )... I think that Kate Bush is more progressive in the true sense of the word, but in terms of what people use to name "prog" it's Supertramp ( say... up to "Paris" ).
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Posted By: Sloth
Date Posted: April 24 2006 at 16:29
Atkingani wrote:
Both... and also Wishbone Ash (I'm campaigning for them ). |
However Kate Bush is prog but i have many other bands I personally prefer over her.
Definately on Wishbone Ash. Wishbone is very underated and deserve to be in PA alongside Tull, and Supertramp.
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