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DREAM THEATER OR KANSAS

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Topic: DREAM THEATER OR KANSAS
Posted By: YtseJammer
Subject: DREAM THEATER OR KANSAS
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:47
I AM WITH DT!WHAT ABOUT YOU?



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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:48
Have to be DT. 


Posted By: Fraja
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:49
Oh,Kansas for me.I have LEFTOVERTURE and....................my god!


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:53
Kansas for me .. heard their early stuff you would know why ! BTW I don`t expect Kansas to win this poll  because  Dream Theater will pick up all the metal votes, this poll is doomed from the very start 


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 06:55
Thor for me...and may he smite you all!

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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 15:30

Not really a conclusive poll as the bands are nothing alike really. However, for personal taste I'd go for Kansas- they aren't one of my fave prog bands (as yet anyway...), but I much prefer their approach to the all out, unremitting bombast of Dream Theater, and I love some of their songs. Certainly, imo, DT never have done a song anywhere near as well written as 'Carry On My Wayward Son' or a prog epic as perfectly formed as 'Journey From Mariabronn'. But I know many here love Dream Theater.



Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 17:27
DT yo


Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 17:45
I think KANSAS is more innovating than DT. Look, I like DT, but they are influenced by so many other bands...


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 17:51
DT all the way. Don't like Kansas much

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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 18:24
I vote for Kansas but DT is fair.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 18:42

jejjeje something tells me that some of the votes that go for Kansas are just against DT jejejeje

Not my case!



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Posted By: elpprogster
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 18:49

No way: KANSAS



Posted By: horza
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 18:50
Kansas - but not by much

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Posted By: Dream Theater
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:17
DT

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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 19:58
Kansas, although I do like Dream Theater.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 20:03

I'm not against Dream Theater, one really Prog Metal band (Even when not my cup of coffe - I don't drink tea-), but Kansas has always been oine of my top 10 if not top 5 bands.

Iván



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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 20:10
Where did this comparison come from...?

Oh yeah, they're both overrated.


Posted By: EL OSO
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 20:28

They´re both great, but KANSAS made some bad albums in the eighties.

Can somebody tell me how can they be compared? They make very different kind of prog, even though DREAM THEATER included Carry On My Wayward Son  in their A CHANGE OF SEASONS medley.



Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 20:31
Obviously DT

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 21:55
Originally posted by Wolf Spider Wolf Spider wrote:

Obviously DT


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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:27
How can you compare these two bands? They're completely different.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:31
don't care much at all for Dream Theater,  enjoy Kansas... so went with Kansas.

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:31
Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

How can you compare these two bands? They're completely different.


preference I guess.


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Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:31

I'm in KANSAS side, but not because I dislike DT (what I realy do), but just for the reason that makes any musical forum useful: their music is rich, complex but very acessible at the same time, and beautiful.

 

BTW, Steve Walsh really did a lot of s**t with his voice. I can't hear Icarus or Belexes in Device-Voice-Drum without feeling pain in my ears, so this is a reason that can be counted against Kansas when you compare these bands today. But in terms of playing Kansas still kicks DT.



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:55
Originally posted by moodyxadi moodyxadi wrote:

BTW, Steve Walsh really did a lot of s**t with his voice. I can't hear Icarus or Belexes in Device-Voice-Drum without feeling pain in my ears, so this is a reason that can be counted against Kansas when you compare these bands today. But in terms of playing Kansas still kicks DT.

Not exact Moodyxadi, Steve wasn't going to sing in that tour because he had a recent surgery in the vocal chords, I believed the problem was created because of some drug abuse  (Had a previous one in 89 and Kansas had to cancel), but nobody could convince him to stay away from such an event, especially having kept clean for a long time.

If you notice Robbie Steindhart covers him at various moments because he knew how dangerous was for Steve to make that effort.

After that gig he rested for some time, and he's back again better than ever.

Iván



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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 22:59
Kansas

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 23:08

KANSAS



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2005 at 23:16

Gladly surprised, even though I voted for Kansas, I was sure that DT was going to wipe their a**es with the Topeka boys in this poll.

I was wrong.

Iván



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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: November 19 2005 at 02:28

I'm not sure what the comparison criteria is for these "X vs. Y" polls, but of course I voted for Kansas.

I agree with the couple people who have noted the two bands have very little in common to form the basis for comparison, but here's a couple of bullets to quantify some of the differences.  This doesn't speak to the quality of either group's music, but I think does point to the scope of each's contributions:

Productivity:
Original studio albums by DT - 9
by Kansas - 16

Originality:
Songs Dream Theater has covered -
Carry on Wayward Son (Kansas)
22 Acacia Avenue (Iron Maiden)
Hallowed Be Thy Name (Iron Maiden)
Children of the Damned (Iron Maiden)
Gangland (Iron Maiden)
Invaders (Iron Maiden)
Killers (Iron Maiden)
Run to the Hills (Iron Maiden)
The Number of the Beast (Iron Maiden)
The Prisoner (Iron Maiden)
The Trooper (Iron Maiden)
Where Eagles Dare (Iron Maiden)
2112 (Rush)
A Passage to Bangkok (Rush)
Different Strings (Rush)
The Necromancer (Rush)
Tears (Rush)
The Trees (Rush)
YYZ (Rush)
Battery (Metallica)
Damage, Inc. (Metallica)
Disposable Heroes (Metallica)
Enter Sandman (Metallica)
Leper Messiah (Metallica)
Orion (Metallica)
Sanitarium (Metallica)
Hot for Teacher (Van Halen)
Mean Street (Van Halen)
Heart of the Sunrise (Yes)
Machine Messiah (Yes)
Echoes (Pink Floyd)
Hey You (Pink Floyd)
One of These Days (Pink Floyd)
Carry that Weight (The Beatles)
Within You Without You (The Beatles)
Perfect Strangers (Deep Purple)
Smoke on the Water (Deep Purple)
Moby Dick (Led Zeppelin)
Since I've Been Loving You (Led Zeppelin)
Baba O'Riley (The Who)
Won't Get Fooled Again (The Who)
Bad (U2)
Red Hill Mining Town (U2)
Acid Rain (Liquid Tension Experiment)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road (Elton John)
In The Dead Of Night (UK)
Cemetery Gates (Pantera)
Death on Two Legs (Queen)
Diary of a Madman (Ozzy Osbourne)
Walk this Way (Aerosmith)
War Pigs (Black Sabbath)
Winter (Tori Amos)

Songs Kansas has covered -
Eleanor Rigby (The Beatles)
Dream Weaver (Gary Wright)

Influence:
James LaBrie has noted numerous times in interviews that high among his influences are Kansas, and particularly Steve Walsh. 



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