Octavarium ... like it or hate it ?
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Topic: Octavarium ... like it or hate it ?
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Octavarium ... like it or hate it ?
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 19:53
It seems by the reviews I read The Dream Theater CD "Octavarium has some mixed opinions what do you think , like it or hate it ?
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:04
Like. I'm a huge DT fan (not that such a thing has a bearing on how I
feel about it) and I'd say it's worth the four star ratings it seems to
be getting.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:06
I LOVE IT
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:11
I really wouldnt miss it if they had never made it.
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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:26
Aside from the first and last song...the album's a throw away for me...
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Posted By: guerreiro
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:46
Not a masterpiece, but their most balanced album between prog and metal. Like it a lot.
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Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 20:47
CaincelaOreinim wrote:
Aside from the first and last song...the album's a throw away for me... |
I agree though it's enough to like it!
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Posted By: Arnold Layne
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 21:54
its the only one that i like entirly, the others i will like some songs alot and hate others, but with Octivarium i like every track especially the title and Panic attack
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 21:58
Like it,but don't love it.The last track is killer,though.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 22:16
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I really wouldnt miss it if they had never made it. |
Same here. I think it's just plain boring.
An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess is my favorite album, or at least in my top3, so I know at least 2/5 of Dream Theater is capable of making a beautiful and enjoyable mix of classical, world-influenced, prog, and metal music that is pure ecstasy. I just don't know why Dream Theater can't do the same. If they could make a whole album with the complexity, musicianship, beauty, cohesiveness, melody, and energy of the song "Universal Mind" from LTE1, then they would fully redeem any misgivings!
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Posted By: mortem
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 22:33
Personally, I don't like it as much as their past albums. It's not THAT
bad.. I just expected a better job from them, I guess.. 3/5
stars on my list
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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 22:36
11 Like over 2 Hate???!!! (when I checked), not much of mixed opinions....
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Posted By: transend
Date Posted: November 13 2005 at 23:47
after the dreadful TOT, I thought it was a step in the right direction...
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 00:29
stonebeard wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I really wouldnt miss it if
they had never made it. |
Same here. I think it's just plain boring.
An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess is my favorite album,
or
at least in my top3, so I know at least 2/5 of Dream Theater is capable of
making a beautiful and enjoyable mix of classical, world-influenced,
prog,
and metal music that is pure ecstasy. I just don't know why Dream
Theater
can't do the same. If they could make a whole album with the complexity,
musicianship, beauty, cohesiveness, melody, and energy of the song
"Universal Mind" from LTE1, then they would fully redeem any misgivings!
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P] |
Absolutely. An Evening with.. is incredible.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 00:40
stonebeard wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I really wouldnt miss it if they had never made it. |
Same here. I think it's just plain boring.
An Evening with John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess is my favorite
album, or at least in my top3, so I know at least 2/5 of Dream Theater
is capable of making a beautiful and enjoyable mix of classical,
world-influenced, prog, and metal music that is pure ecstasy. I just
don't know why Dream Theater can't do the same. If they could make a
whole album with the complexity, musicianship, beauty, cohesiveness,
melody, and energy of the song "Universal Mind" from LTE1, then they
would fully redeem any misgivings! |
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Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 01:36
Very good.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 02:00
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I really wouldnt miss it if they had never made it. | I would have missed it as I find parts of it to be brilliant , though it took me a few plays to get into it
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Posted By: Pafnutij
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 02:17
Pathetic album
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 02:22
4 star album for me.I've no idea why its so controversial.Good solid prog,nothing ground breaking but good listening all the same.
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 04:25
I don't hate it, I just find it mediocre.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 04:43
If you find it average (mediocre) just don`t vote
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 04:47
My second favurite dt album...only topped by SDOIT
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 05:17
transend wrote:
after the dreadful TOT, I thought it was a step in the right direction... |
Yup.
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 05:57
s1ipp3ry wrote:
If you find it average (mediocre) just don`t vote |
That about sums it up for me. My first experience of Dream Theater and
after listening to it, it's very difficult to get enthusiastic about
listening to any more, although DT fans assure me they've done much
better!
Perhaps there should have been a "It's mediocre" choice in the poll.
You know, I think damning something with faint praise is worse than
saying you loathe it - if you do, at least it stirred a reactionin you
- which Octavarium didn't in me.
So, no vote from me!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 06:44
Phil wrote:
s1ipp3ry wrote:
If you find it average (mediocre) just don`t vote |
That about sums it up for me. My first experience of Dream Theater and after listening to it, it's very difficult to get enthusiastic about listening to any more, although DT fans assure me they've done much better!
Perhaps there should have been a "It's mediocre" choice in the poll. You know, I think damning something with faint praise is worse than saying you loathe it - if you do, at least it stirred a reactionin you - which Octavarium didn't in me.
So, no vote from me!
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Posted By: DeadGhost
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 07:22
this album is the main reason why DT are no longer my fav. band!
I HATE IT!!!!!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:22
I said i like it but its the sound of the band trying to move forwords as they dont wont to play the mega hevy metal of ToT again. There next album could be one of their best though but OV is the worst of the five studio albums i have of theirs.
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:36
I find the album to be a solid effort (mainly because the topic and lyrical
concept really grasped my attention.) At first I thought the album was
incredible but after a while it's most definitely less than that.
I would give 5 stars to the title track any day though. I hate how people say
it's an exact copy off other bands. It's similar at parts but no classic 70s
prog band would have wrote an epic like that. It's different, with a metal
edge to it.
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In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:39
I think it's OK... though it sounds like crap compared to Images & Words and Awake.
I would rate it 3.5/5
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 03:10
3.5 /5 ? thats about the size of it
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 06:02
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
transend wrote:
after the dreadful TOT, I thought it was a step in the right direction... |
Yup.
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I do hope they keep coming up with different albums, just as they do now... but if the only choice for them now is one between a new "Octavarium" and a new "ToT", then I'm ALL THE WAY for the latter. I don't hate "Octavarium", but IMO it's definitely their worst album (I haven't heard the debut, though).
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 15 2005 at 06:24
It shall be interesting what Dream Theater do next
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Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:04
Definitely one of their weakest albums. I like Sacrificed Sons and Octavarium the best.
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:18
Its one of their "medium" albums, but definitely not their best.
It would be around the 4.25 region.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:24
3.75 for me.
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Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:34
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
transend wrote:
after the dreadful TOT, I thought it was a step in the right direction... |
Yup.
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I don't think Train of Thought is dreadful at all, deceptive is the term i would use. Different songs have different functions. A song like As I Am or Honor Thy Father may not be anything great, but certain songs such as Stream of Conciusness or In the Name of God are works of art. The album does not seem as progressive as it really is. Most songs feature varying degrees of top class playing and emotion. The album has an emotional theme to it unlike most Dream Theater albums. Many criticize the album sayings it only has one atmosphere, but a band like Opeth only has the lone dark atmosphere, and i don't belive many think Opeth lacks emotion.
On Octavarium, i think it was a good but not their best effort. It's a mix of the old and the new Dream Theater. Rudess favored more of an analog tone to his synths unlike the other albums of his era. The songs are less technical but more structured than Train of Thought. I don't think this album is a step in the right or wrong direction, but a step in a different direction than most Dream Theater fans are used to.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:46
I really like (not love) Octavarium. Its very diferent from their past
works and ranges from great to not so good. 4/5. The concept draws you
in, just like the first time I saw the 8 - 5 - 3 patterns in the
booklet. Im looking forward for their next album. And the title track...AWESOME!
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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 17 2005 at 16:47
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
3.75 for me. |
That's about where I think it's at too.
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In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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