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Topic: Progressive Pop?
Posted By: ProgsCerebrum
Subject: Progressive Pop?
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 17:27
is there such a thing? hypothetically, if there were, who do you think would fit under the category? i'd say Tears for Fears...their new album at least as progressive as Asias new album...any other artists?



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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 17:30

I DONT KNOW.. IF YOU SAY POP..  LIKE POPULAR... PINK FLOYD WOULD BE POP...

BUT THE WORD POP LIKE A PROG LITE...  ASIA , STYX, SUPERTRAMP, BOSTON WOULD BE POP



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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 17:33
The Buggles


Thats a joke by the way

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 18:07
I'd prefer to call it Avant-Pop/Avant-Rock. Could contain the above mentioned artists, as well as King's X or Muse.

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Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 18:23
I consider Caravan to be pop. Well, I've only got "In the Land of Grey and Pink," but there's an undeniable influence from 60s pop. It certainly doesn't have the harmonically dense and hard to access stylings of "Close to the Edge" or "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."

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Posted By: EL OSO
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 18:43

Sometiemes I think Le Orme is kinda Prog-Pop. Listen to the Storia o Leggenda album.



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 18:54

Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

I consider Caravan to be pop. Well, I've only got "In the Land of Grey and Pink," but there's an undeniable influence from 60s pop. It certainly doesn't have the harmonically dense and hard to access stylings of "Close to the Edge" or "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."

Nine Feet Underground is pop??



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Posted By: S.H.Kingston
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 19:06

James Plotkin's Flux 'Protoplasmic' is one of my favorite records of all time; it is touted as being Prog-Pop; I guess I can see that, highly melodic, softer edge, maybe more "song" oriented; but still HEAVILY space/psych influenced with song lenths that would make MTV cringe. Along those lines is of course his prior outfit Old's 'Formula' much of the same; maybe not quite as well developed, but still outstanding. The guitar work is worth price of admission alone...If you can get past the drum machines!

For pure psych madness though; Old's "Musical Dimensions Of Sleastak" is a phenomenal mind bender; with a more harsh/metal bent to it.

thanks!

s.h. kingston

 



Posted By: Biggles
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 19:10
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

I consider Caravan to be pop. Well, I've only got "In the Land of Grey and Pink," but there's an undeniable influence from 60s pop. It certainly doesn't have the harmonically dense and hard to access stylings of "Close to the Edge" or "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."

Nine Feet Underground is pop??

Maybe not, but "Golf Girl," "Love to Love You," and "In the Land of Grey and Pink" certainly are, and that's almost half the album.

Not that I don't like it, there's nothing wrong with pop music if it's good. I just think there's definitely a lot of pop in there.



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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 20:04
Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

I consider Caravan to be pop. Well, I've only got "In the Land of Grey and Pink," but there's an undeniable influence from 60s pop. It certainly doesn't have the harmonically dense and hard to access stylings of "Close to the Edge" or "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."

Nine Feet Underground is pop??

Maybe not, but "Golf Girl," "Love to Love You," and "In the Land of Grey and Pink" certainly are, and that's almost half the album.

Not that I don't like it, there's nothing wrong with pop music if it's good. I just think there's definitely a lot of pop in there.

You should listen to "For Girls Who Grow Plump In The Night" > jazzrock (with a pop edge, agreed... but Caravan almost define  the Canterbury sound, so... )



Posted By: Winterfamily
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 20:06
Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

Originally posted by Biggles Biggles wrote:

I consider Caravan to be pop. Well, I've only got "In the Land of Grey and Pink," but there's an undeniable influence from 60s pop. It certainly doesn't have the harmonically dense and hard to access stylings of "Close to the Edge" or "Larks' Tongues in Aspic."

Nine Feet Underground is pop??



I don't think so, but "Golf Girl" or "Love to Love You" are two of the catchiest melodies i've ever heard!

Soft Machine were also a fine pop band in their first two LPs. I've always liked their way of mixing complex instrumental sections with straight pop tunes.




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Posted By: roaryg
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 20:06
Todd Rundgren always sounds to me like prog pop.

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Posted By: Mnemosyne
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 22:27
Prog pop: In a way, Avant-garde Pop, two artists: Björk and Tom Waits

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 05:17

Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

The Buggles


Thats a joke by the way

Joke or not, it's a perfect example. Adventures In Modern Recording is a prime example of progressive pop, I'd say.

 



Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 05:42
A.C.T

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:02
Kate Bush.


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:33
Talking Heads and XTC both made extremely intelligent pop music with some proggy elements.

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:43
Originally posted by roaryg roaryg wrote:

Todd Rundgren always sounds to me like prog pop.


Agreed the Todd Rundgren I've heard does, I'd also add Supertramp, 10CC, ELO, Kayak, Klaatu, Ambrosia (even though I dislike them) ...

Then there's the Talking Heads, Oingo Boingo sort of progressive pop ... that list is pretty endless ...if you look hard enough

BTW, I also agree with Biggles, that even though Nine Feet Underground is a major proggy song, Caravan had a surprisingly poppy knack ... c'mon Love To Love You is nothing but a pop song ... and there are many whimisical pop moments on their best albums ... offhand,  I Wish I Were Stoned, Golf Girl, Magic Man, Surprise, Surprise ... come to mind ...  Looking back I'm very surprised they didn't have success on the singles charts ...




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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:49

Other examples are:

10cc and the offshot duo Godley & Creme.
Adrian Belew's early solo albums
Slapp Happy
Sparks
They Might Be Giants



 



Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:25

Definitely 10cc are a definitive 'prog pop' band- the arrangements are very intelligent, plus the songs are often very sardonic and witty belying the commercial sound of their biggest hits.

I also like Sparks and Supertramp for much the same reason.



Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 11:43
I can quote you several french artists that did pop progressive. Sing in french, of course.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 14:55
A.C.T. and IZZ are two bands I would call progressive pop.And Kevin Gilbert described his solo work as progressive pop.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 15:02

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

A.C.T. and IZZ are two bands I would call progressive pop.And Kevin Gilbert described his solo work as progressive pop.

Progressive Pop ... sounds good to me. Many artists write popular music which uses progressive elements. This would be a nice genre - many of the artists currently categorized as Art Rock could be moved there.



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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 15:09
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

A.C.T. and IZZ are two bands I would call progressive pop.And Kevin Gilbert described his solo work as progressive pop.

Progressive Pop ... sounds good to me. Many artists write popular music which uses progressive elements. This would be a nice genre - many of the artists currently categorized as Art Rock could be moved there.

I agree,Mike.



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Posted By: BitchBrew
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 17:25
Im probably gonna upset someone know, but here it goes
YES!
Well, I have only listened to their album "The Yes Album". And allot of the stuff is cuite "popy"


Posted By: Alagithil
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 11:15

Yes Album is especially poppy for them, though. Fragile isn't. Except "Long Distance...Runaround."

The Moodies and Zombies are definitely. Maybe Procol.



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