Best Genesis Studio Album After Duke
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Topic: Best Genesis Studio Album After Duke
Posted By: hcnoer
Subject: Best Genesis Studio Album After Duke
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 08:15
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Amazing how a band can change so much. I almost cry when I am forced to listen to Abacab, knowing this is the band (or atleast most of it) that relased album such as Nursery Cryme and Foxtrot. Or Lamb Lies with a song like "In The Cage"... Perhaps the question should have been the least bad album, anyways my choice is, surprisingly enough, Calling all Stations... )= ------------- " Jon Anderson is the only man I know who tries to save this planet while living on another" - Rick Wakeman |
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Posted By: dr_shoganai
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 08:43
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I am also standing for "Calling all Stations". Good underrated AOR album with excellent Ray Wilson on vocals. At least they tried something different after a long time (even if it is not totally prog). Of Collins era "pop" albums it would be "Genesis". ------------- Air, fire, earth and water Balance of change World on the scales On the scales. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 12:39
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It has to be 'We cant dance' simply coz the long songs on there are so good. The pop ones are not too bad either... 'Calling all stations' however, I feel is a WOEFULLY underrated album, it has some very good songs and many simply dismiss it coz of Ray wilson...it is NOT an easy album to like but it has its rewards in the end |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 12:40
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Abacab for me. A lot of people seem to dislike the album, and though the album is not one of my favourites, I still like it very much. I would even say that there is no bad track on the album. Not many will agree with me, I'm sure. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 12:44
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I cant agree on Abacab! 'Whodunnit' is quite simply the WORST thing they ever did and that will always drag that album down for me.... Love 'Me and Sarah Jane'...what a great song. |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 13:43
I've got all 5, but this poll has just reminded me that the last time I
listened to any of them was the month that Calling All Stations came
out!  I'd have to say though, that in 1986, I was a pop/rock fan and I thought Invisble Touch was a fine album, by the early 1990s, when I started to hear the others, I was already a full-fledged prog convert, and they had much tougher standards to live up to ... In that context, it's Invisble Touch ... still a very good 80s pop/rock album ... Land Of Confusion is one of my favourite videos ever ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: progadder
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 14:09
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It has to be 'We Can't Dance'. 'Fading Lights' would hold its own on any of the post-Gabriel albums and 'Driving the Last Spike' is very evocative to a Northern England man such as myself. It eloquently expresses the fear of those brave men who through their pitifully-rewarded and honest toil shaped the Industrial Revolution and hence the modern world. Quite superb. |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 14:18
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Abacab ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: shillelagh70
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 15:26
I agree 110%. When I first heard that song (Whodunnit)I couldn't fast forward through it fast enough. 'Me and Sarah Jane' is my favorite track off of that album, with 'Like it or Not' a quick second. I would have to go with ABACAB, Genesis lost me after that. 'Genesis' was a joke. I actually forgot about that album. |
transend wrote:Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:18
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Have to say I hated 'Calling All Stations...'- for me the fault wasn't in Wilson's vocals, but the songs were well below par for Genesis in my opinion. If we are being brutally honest, none of these albums are terribly great really, and are patchy affairs most of the time, yet with this in mind, 'We Can't Dance' seems the best here as it panders to all fans of Genesis, with a terrific prog epic in 'Fading Lights' that is easily the best thing they did since 'The Lady Lies', plus some well above par AOR in 'No Son Of Mine', 'Jesus He Knows Me', 'Driving The Last Spike', 'Dreaming While You Sleep' and 'Living Forever', that at least attempt to engage the listener. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:20
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Sorry, but there's not a single post Duke album worth to be commented IMO. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:25
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Gotta agree with Iván here. Duke is ok, but everything after that is absolutely terrible. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:36
| I have to concur - "Duke" is a great album in many ways, but with the exception of a few individual tracks, Genesis released nothing of note afterwards IMO. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 16:48
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It's not exactly a tempting selection, but in common with a few others I'd go for We Can't Dance. There are glimpses of the old magic in between the radio friendly pap, and it's probably their most balanced set after Duke. I could die happy without hearing any of them again, though. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 17:00
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Calling all Stations. The worst is ABACAB: not progressive at all and not a good pop album in return. Calling all Stations at least is not a dummy Phil Collins' solo album. ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 17:59
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Abacab, Genesis both 3 stars, IMO ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: herbie53
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 18:26
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I can't understand !!! Abacab leading this poll ??? But my vote goes to Genesis (1983). Even the pop songs are great in this album (anyone here remember Silver Rainbow, Home by the Sea & It's Gonna Get Better ?).
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This is the worst album by GENESIS of all the times... 
And look, this is my favorite band, I have all their albuns. I need to say that I prefer Invisible Touch to Abacab.
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 19:17
Whodunnit - is just the guys taking the piss and having a bit of fun. PLEASE don't take it seriously!!!! ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: hcnoer
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 21:57
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Atleast I am glad most agree that everything post Duke is totally crap (= ------------- " Jon Anderson is the only man I know who tries to save this planet while living on another" - Rick Wakeman |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 22:22
| Abacab is a two star album if I'm feeling happy one day, but other than that, the rest of the albums after Duke is ABSOLUTE, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT sh*t! |
Posted By: kirklott
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 23:36
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This poll is flawed. You can't vote for "none." ------------- "Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 05 2005 at 23:37
| Abacab! I'd give it three stars and the rest about two (maybe a one for the self titled). It has some decent to good tracks on it (first three, dodo/lurker, last two) and despite the crap, the good outweighs it in my mind. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 06:03
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Abacrap and Invisible Talent are awful Calling All Station and We Can,t dance are nowhere near to toe level of Duke and ATTWT Genesis "Shapes" has got its first side that is more than coirrect (almost Duke calibre), but the secoind side sucks big time (almost as much as Abacrap and Invisible talent so Shapes takes the cake almost by default ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 06:31
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 21:47
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I think all the ones I've heard are very good pop albums!
Abacab is good, and still has a bit of prog in it, and invisible touch is good, i traded joe satriani's crystal planet with my friend for it (i dont care for joes songs), but my favorite above all of them is callign all stations. A wonderful peice of neo-prog! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 02:40
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"Genesis" closely followed by "Abacab". And Then There Were Three **** |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 05:54
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Voted 'Genesis' I really like Mama/Home by the sea - 2nd home../Taking it all too hard/Silver Rainbow
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 08:20
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I'd say Abacab. Kevin Gilbert was almost a lock to sing on Calling All Stations,and I think if he hadn't passed away we would all be praising that album. -------------  |
Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 08:36
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Genesis album 1983 ------------- Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all ! |
Posted By: nimrodel
Date Posted: November 07 2005 at 08:37
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Invisible Touch maybe about 2 stars... ------------- We want... a shrubbery! |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 00:22
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Invisible Touch easily ------------- 
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Posted By: Tychovski
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 17:53
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It would have been Genesis - except that it includes Illegal Alien... So it's Abacab by default. ------------- Everyone knows rock attained perfection in 1974, it's a scientific fact. |
Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:24
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We Can't Dance, only for the great epics (Fading Lights is just one of the best tracks the trio-Genesis ever recorded, IMO, and is placed well in the album) and the beautiful ballads. There are also powerful tracks like No Son of Mine. It's a good album, even by non-prog standards, but the prog elements that remained were still great!
-Marc. ------------- I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on. |
Posted By: Epping Forrest
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 18:26
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Genesis was moribund in 1975 and died in 1978 and Phil Collins was his gravedigger...The name only subsists, but do you compare apples and pears?? No? So, why do you compare perfection and sh*t?? ------------- You can blow out a candle, but you can't blow out a fire once the flame begins to catch the wind will blow it higher Peter Gabriel, from Biko |
Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 08 2005 at 21:45
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I personally have no problem with post Duke Genesis, in matter of fact my favorite period from Genesis is the Post Hackett era, it's the era I fell in love with the band, and unlike those that grew up with the progressive era of the band, Genesis was everywhere and everything thing the band released I loved... But even I am not foolish to compare Pop period Genesis to progressive era Genesis....
I love all Genesis albums but my favorite from post Duke period Genesis is Invisible Touch....
Charles ------------- G'day |
Posted By: tolstoievski
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 10:15
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if its gonna get better, lets start with the feelings ... Genesis 1983 ------------- we're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year ... |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 10:26
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We can't dance, some decent songs, and I don't mind reasonable quality
pop music (like Jesus he knows me). Still only a two stars album at
best - and that's stretching it. I had the chance to get Calling All Stations for the cost of one new burnable CD, as a friend offered to burn a copy. After listening to it, I respectfully declined. ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:51
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Well I’ve been waiting, waiting here so long
But thinking nothing, nothing could go wrong, ooh now I know She has a built in ability To take everything she sees And now it seems I’m falling, falling for her. She seems to have an invisible touch yeah She reaches in, and grabs right hold of your heart She seems to have an invisible touch yeah It takes control and slowly tears you apart. Well I don’t really know her, I only know her name But she crawls under your skin, you’re never quite the same, and now i Know She’s got something you just can’t trust It’s something mysterious And now it seems I’m falling, falling for her. She seems to have an invisible touch yeah She reaches in, and grabs right hold of your heart She seems to have an invisible touch yeah It takes control and slowly tears you apart. She don’t like losing, to her it’s still a game And though she will mess up your life, You’ll want her just the same, and now I know She has a built in ability To take everything she sees And now it seems I’ve fallen, fallen for her. She seems to have an invisible touch yeah She reaches in, and grabs right hold of your heart She seems to have an invisible touch yeah It takes control and slowly tears you apart. She seems to have an invisible touch... Ahhhhh... greart song  ------------- 
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