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Topic: Close To The Edge v. Supper’s Ready
Posted By: Snow Dog
Subject: Close To The Edge v. Supper’s Ready
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:16

Both from 1972. Both long classics from two of Prog's Giants.

So, which one do you prefer?



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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:22
CTTE for me, not a great fan a Genesis though.

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:28

I love both Genesis and Yes, and both CTTE and SR are musically real highlights.

That's a tough one. I like CTTE just a little bit more.



Posted By: goose
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:29
Supper's Ready. I like CTTE but much prefer the Gates of Delerium, for example.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:33
I think suppers ready  I think its aged better that CTTE  and has more interesting parts to it .. yup its  Suppers Ready  but only just ...  


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:33

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Supper's Ready. I like CTTE but much prefer the Gates of Delerium, for example.

Me too.



Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:38
CTTE. Actually (whisper it...) there are several Genesis tracks I prefer to Supper's Ready....


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:42
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Supper's Ready. I like CTTE but much prefer the Gates of Delerium, for example.

Me too.

I also prefer Gates of delirium, but I thought these two were more contemporary too each other.



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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:44
Suppers Ready for me, ive always thought Genesis were the better band anyway

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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:46
CttE, the best prog song ever.


Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 09:58

Difficult choice because both are the ultimate prog classics. Supper's Ready was easily Genesis's best song and although CTTE is just as good, YES had the skill and creativity to go on and produce more epic classics. Unfortuneatly, Genesis lacked in that department!

So on that principal alone, I voted CTTE!



Posted By: dr.music
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:04
I prefer "Supper' s ready" by far.


Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:19
Originally posted by dr.music dr.music wrote:

I prefer "Supper' s ready" by far.


I concur.


Posted By: RoyalJelly
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:23
I think it's like comparing strawberries and bricks, both brilliant classics, both expanding the barriers of rock, but in very different ways. You could add to this list of incomparable classics "Thick as a Brick" and perhaps "Tarkus". When a work stands on this level, it's really a matter of taste as to which is "better", you're strolling through the high alps of music.


Posted By: Tommy
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:27
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

Difficult choice because both are the ultimate prog classics. Supper's Ready was easily Genesis's best song and although CTTE is just as good, YES had the skill and creativity to go on and produce more epic classics. Unfortuneatly, Genesis lacked in that department!

So on that principal alone, I voted CTTE!

I agree! 'CLOSE TO THE EDGE' just EDGES it



Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:29
CLOSE TO THE EDGE!


Posted By: nico
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 10:37
I prefer CTTE


Posted By: Syndromet
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:23
Come on!!! One of these tracks is fresh and exiting, the other is just boring. CTTE clearly wins this, even though Suppers ready is genesis best song ever.

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Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:24
Tough choice for me, but I go with CTTE.

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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:40
CLOSE TO THE EDGE

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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45
Close To The Supper.

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:54
Give me that one that is getting absolutely destroyed at the moment (51-15)


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:28

Is this Poll being "fixed" by someone!

52 [75.36%]
17

[24.64%]



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:31
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Supper's Ready. I like CTTE but much prefer the Gates of Delerium, for example.

Me too.

I also prefer Gates of delirium, but I thought these two were more contemporary too each other.

Absolutely true!



Posted By: BeticoVnz
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:33
Close to the Edge is not 3 times better than Supper´s Ready, so my vote goes to Supper´s Ready...but i dont think is going to change much...


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:33
I cant believe that CTTE is thrashing Suppers Ready, CTTE is okay but its just not as impressive as Suppers Ready

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:34
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Supper's Ready. I like CTTE but much prefer the Gates of Delerium, for example.

Me too.

I also prefer Gates of delirium, but I thought these two were more contemporary too each other.

Absolutely true!

No question



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Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 14:29

I would put 'CLOSE TO THE EDGE' as the best prog track ever. Whilst 'SUPPER'S READY' would just be outside my top ten!

'CLOSE TO THE EDGE'



Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 14:34

 The results of this poll are absurd ¡¡

  I mean, "Close" is great, but there´s definitely much more to listen at in "Supper´s". If I had to burn a CD of 80 minutes for the rest of my life, I wouldn´t spend 18 minutes on "Close" while "Supper´s" is filled with much more ideas and images. ....After the third listen to "Close" all you remember is the chorus repeated over and over, not 23 minutes of different passages and colourful lyrics.

 In "Supper´s" there is not a single word repeated to be catchy as in "Close". It doesn´t have 5 minutes of simplistic music and lyrics as the section "I get up I get down". Also, in "Supper´s" the main chorus,...or, call it main section, is never repeated at the end as a traditional pop song. Instead, Genesis presents one of the most bizarre, original and fascinating instrumentals in prog with "Apocalypse 9/8".

 The result of this poll reminds me of that "Dark side to # 1?"...which was nothing but the result of a group of people giving 5 straight "one star reviews" to SELLING ENGLAND so Dark became No. 2.

 By the way...where is taht poll?. Someone really erased it

 Greetings snow dog ¡¡. Did you get my last e-mail? I sent you a link to the "Zarathustra" album.



Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 14:42
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I cant believe that CTTE is thrashing Suppers Ready, CTTE is okay but its just not as impressive as Suppers Ready


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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:06
Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:

 The results of this poll are absurd ¡¡


  I mean, "Close" is great, but there´s definitely much more to listen at
in "Supper´s". If I had to burn a CD of 80 minutes for the rest of my life, I
wouldn´t spend 18 minutes on "Close" while "Supper´s" is filled with
much more ideas and images. ....After the third listen to "Close" all you
remember is the chorus repeated over and over, not 23 minutes of
different passages and colourful lyrics.


 In "Supper´s" there is not a single word repeated to be catchy as in
"Close". It doesn´t have 5 minutes of simplistic music and lyrics as the
section "I get up I get down". Also, in "Supper´s" the main chorus,...or,
call it main section, is never repeated at the end as a traditional pop
song. Instead, Genesis presents one of the most bizarre, original and
fascinating instrumentals in prog with "Apocalypse 9/8".


 The result of this poll reminds me of that "Dark side to # 1?"...which
was nothing but the result of a group of people giving 5 straight "one star
reviews" to SELLING ENGLAND so Dark became No. 2.






This poll must be fixed or maybe you can vote more than once? There's
no way CTTE is beating Supper's Ready this much. I agree with everything
eduardossc said. CTTE is a great song and a masterpiece IMO but
"Supper's Ready" is (at least IMO) the best composed song I've heard.
There are so many different emotions and musical parts that add color to
the overall message of the song. Now obviously people could disagree
but with such a great margain? Something's gotta be wrong here.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:10

^ I think it is fixed!!!! You CAN votre again if you log off and log in again and I believe that this is what is being done!

Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
73 [74.49%]
25 [25.51%]



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Posted By: ShaunoNoNo
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:12
CTTE, no question.

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Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:14

[/QUOTE]



This poll must be fixed or maybe you can vote more than once? There's
no way CTTE is beating Supper's Ready this much. I agree with everything
eduardossc said. CTTE is a great song and a masterpiece IMO but
"Supper's Ready" is (at least IMO) the best composed song I've heard.
There are so many different emotions and musical parts that add color to
the overall message of the song. Now obviously people could disagree
but with such a great margain? Something's gotta be wrong here.[/QUOTE]

Whilst I agree Suppers Ready is a great song, I think it is too eclectic and it does have some 'silly' musically and lyrically moments, especially the middle part s ''an egg is an egg......'' ect !

I think that's probably why it's been trounced!



Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:18

I think Suppers Ready is a lot more interesting and diverse, and has a lot more ideas. So, my vote goes to Supper's Ready.

Close to the Edge is good, but it gets too repetitive sometimes.



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Posted By: Murder1
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:20
I am a fan of both bands as I have stated before, but Close to The Edge is one of those albums that`s perfection personified. One day, Ill work up a review when Im not so tired. `And You and I' is one of those tracks where the production holds up well to this day.


Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:20
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:






This poll must be fixed or maybe you can vote more than once? There's
no way CTTE is beating Supper's Ready this much. I agree with everything
eduardossc said. CTTE is a great song and a masterpiece IMO but
"Supper's Ready" is (at least IMO) the best composed song I've heard.
There are so many different emotions and musical parts that add color to
the overall message of the song. Now obviously people could disagree
but with such a great margain? Something's gotta be wrong here.[/QUOTE]

Whilst I agree Suppers Ready is a great song, I think it is too eclectic and it does have some 'silly' moments, both musically and lyrically, especially the middle parts ''an egg is an egg......'' ect ! It does get a bit too fragmented in certain parts whilst CTTE  beautiful melodies and virtuoso musicianship keeps your attention throughout

I think that's probably why it's been trounced!



Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:22
Originally posted by raindance raindance wrote:



This poll must be fixed or maybe you
can vote more than once? There's no way CTTE is beating Supper's Ready
this much. I agree with everything eduardossc said. CTTE is a great song
and a masterpiece IMO but "Supper's Ready" is (at least IMO) the best
composed song I've heard. There are so many different emotions and
musical parts that add color to the overall message of the song. Now
obviously people could disagree but with such a great margain?
Something's gotta be wrong here.[/QUOTE]


Whilst I agree Suppers Ready is a great song, I think it is too eclectic
and it does have some 'silly' musically and lyrically moments, especially
the middle part s ''an egg is an egg......'' ect !


I think that's probably why it's been trounced!

[/QUOTE]

The lyrics are never silly. They are written as images and are to be
interpreted. Gabriel is not singing the "There's winston churchill dressed
in drag...." for nothing. All of it has significance. As for Close to the Edge.
Supper's Ready is so far beyong CTTE lyrically that the two are
incomparable. And for the music of Willow Farm being silly... This is
intended as well. It is supposed to give a fake type nursery rhyme
atmosphere for how "real" society (or "willow farm") is.

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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:28
it "may" be fixed but if the masses prefer CTTE rather than SR then we have to face the facts.
im not saying its better although i prefer CTTE only because i heard it more times and apreciate it more.



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:32
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

it "may" be fixed but if the masses prefer CTTE rather
than SR then we have to face the facts.
im not saying its better although i prefer CTTE only because i heard it more
times and apreciate it more.



It's obviously fixed. The votes have gone up for CTTE by about 10 in the past
5 minutes (with 1 for Genesis.) Look at the people that commented saying
what they voted for. There seems to be a little bit more CTTE's but not by
much.

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:34

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

it "may" be fixed but if the masses prefer CTTE rather than SR then we have to face the facts.
im not saying its better although i prefer CTTE only because i heard it more times and apreciate it more.

If it is "fixed" then its not the masses prefering it, but a few individuals!



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Posted By: Charles
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:42

"Both are phenomenal songs... But "Supper's Ready" is the apex of progressive rock's side long suites... "Close To The Edge" is the virtuostic side long that groups like Rush and Dream Theather to name two which they could make...

 

Charles



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Posted By: Violenza
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 20:54
I like Supper's Ready better. I find it a little more diverse and a little less repetitive than CTTE, although I like both, of course.


Posted By: An old fart
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:23
Supper's Ready a lot better. Close... is ok, but I've never quite understood what's so special about it. Yes has plenty of better songs than that one. Supper's Ready is much more catchy, diverse, dramatic, surprising and elaborately structured.

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Posted By: MegaMoog
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:35
I have always liked them both, but if I had to watch one song live for the rest of my life,( having seen both play live) I would have to say Closer To Tthe Edge, I love Yes Live more than Genesis Live, Plus I love to watch Wakeman,  But I love Genesis too this Poll is to hard.

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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 21:41
Both excellent examples of what was good and daring about music at that time- couldn't choose one over the other.


Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 02:15
Come on! Supper's Ready by leaps and bounds. So much more to offer
than CttE. Have you Yes fans listened to the lyrics? (which are sung
poorly, like all Yes tunes)

'I get up, I get down. I get up, I get down. I get up, I get down.' ?
'A dew drop can exalt us like the music of the sun' ?

And CttE has no defense that it is far less diverse and more repetitive.
Some guy mentioned quite accurately that after a couple listens all one
remembers is the standard issue - albeit catchy - chorus.

All this said I do love both the songs.


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 05:46

close to the supper

 

supperman

supersupper

ready to close

supper at the edge



Posted By: Genesisprog
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 06:40

     Do you want to know my opinnion about which song is better?

     Aaah,shucks  !!    CTTE ofcourse



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Posted By: carpetcrawl
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 07:04
love em both, but here goes, Suppers for me, however CTTE is still  being done live, or was recently, but no supper anymore


Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 08:43


[/QUOTE]

It's obviously fixed. The votes have gone up for CTTE by about 10 in the past
5 minutes (with 1 for Genesis.) Look at the people that commented saying
what they voted for. There seems to be a little bit more CTTE's but not by
much.[/QUOTE]

 There you´ve said it all. That statistic is crucial . Forget about the result of this poll. If most people really prefered Close over Supper´s, the only thing left to think is that "Close" is for the masses and is more likable because it has those poppy and catchy-bubble gum choruses so you remember them even while you are washing your car...man ¡¡, you can sing "I get up I get down" to your 1 year old baby and probably she or he will dance along with the chorus. Try doing the same with "Apocalypse" and the baby will start crying.

  Ok. Just a final thing, so this is not just an ironic text:

  It seems like saying "Close by far", "Close is the best prog song ever" gives much more credit to the argument than a fully explained reason about why "Close" would be better. When such comments are said over the years, 33 year to be precise, what you get is a dogma. Something you can´t argue about, it´s converted into a fact, just like a cience. And that is ridiculous.

 I´ll make a comparison between these two songs in terms of what I think, are the most important elements in music:

 Diversity:       Supper´s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Close

 Imagination:  Supper´s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Close

 Lyrics:           Supper´s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Close       (I get up I get down,I get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get downI get up I get down)

 Creativity (different and original textures, moods, shades, sounds ): 

                                       Supper´s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Close

 Voice and interpretation: Supper´s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Close

 Instrumentation: Supper´s <<<<< Close

 The number of "plus (>>>>)" marks are irrelevant. The differences are overwhelming.

Close sure has better instrumentation. However, I dare to say the complexity of their playing is more individual than the result of a team work. Every instrument is played impressively, but the interaction and the changing from theme to theme is more complex and more a team work in Supper´s.

 

 



Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 08:56

Looks like we need to ask the United Nations Election Monitoring Group to investigate what's going on here...

One progger..one vote.



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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 08:56
CTTE. In fact, I don't really like Supper's ready at all.... It really bores me.

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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: November 02 2005 at 09:00

I really love Supper's Ready, and have to confess that I've found it only recently, but Close To The Edge is a progressive, symphonic composition whereas Supper's Ready is more a rhapsody, or a suite of fine songs that are brilliantly knit together towards the end.

My vote has to go to CTTE, but SR runs, eh, a close second.



Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: November 06 2005 at 02:26

CLOSE TO THE EDGE!!!!!!!

Supper's Ready isn't even close!



Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 01:12
Originally posted by eduardossc eduardossc wrote:


Quote It's obviously fixed. The votes have gone up for CTTE by about 10 in the past
5 minutes (with 1 for Genesis.) Look at the people that commented saying
what they voted for. There seems to be a little bit more CTTE's but not by
much.

 There you´ve said it all. That statistic is crucial . Forget about the result of this poll. If most people really prefered Close over Supper´s, the only thing left to think is that "Close" is for the masses and is more likable because it has those poppy and catchy-bubble gum choruses so you remember them even while you are washing your car...man ¡¡, you can sing "I get up I get down" to your 1 year old baby and probably she or he will dance along with the chorus. Try doing the same with "Apocalypse" and the baby will start crying.

Seems there's a Yes fan in all the polls with too much time on his hands or too many PC's at his office.

Iván



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Posted By: Shark Sandwich
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 12:22

 'Close To The Edge' it has to be. I just could not get into 'Supper's Ready' or, for that matter, most of the 'Foxtrot' album. The keyboard sounds in CTTE are just godly!



Posted By: magog
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 12:42
There's no match: Close to the edge is a long song, Supper's ready is a real suite...


Posted By: Fritha
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 18:36

Originally posted by Chipiron Chipiron wrote:

CTTE. In fact, I don't really like Supper's ready at all.... It really bores me.

I hear you, although I have in fact learned to sit through SR and even enjoy, say, 50% of it  

Lol, Eduardo sure is likely to find it baffling that somebody could actually get bored while listening to SR as it is supposed to have tons more creativity and diversity... All I can say is, what some people hear as diversity and creativity, I hear as a hotchpotch of ideas not executed nearly as well as on CTTE. Supper's Ready is just too rough on the edges and sounds too much like a musical tune to me. It might have gone down well on Broadway, lol...!

Sorry, I just can't take this prog suite as seriously as some (well, many!) of you do but still, it is fun to sing along to Gabriel on Willow Farm, can't deny that.



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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 19:23

 

   Close to the edge is a brilliant 8 minutes of music stretched out to a record side. Supper's Ready is not as brilliant but much more diverse and not elongated at it's 24 minutes. It's a tough call . The lyrics of CTTE are meaningless which is another big drawback. The playing is better on CTTE but I'll go for SR.



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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: November 09 2005 at 19:24

 

  Another point in SRs favor is the great drumming by Phil. Surely it was a sad day when he moved away form prog



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Posted By: supper'sready72
Date Posted: November 10 2005 at 21:02

Originally posted by Syndromet Syndromet wrote:

Come on!!! One of these tracks is fresh and exiting, the other is just boring. CTTE clearly wins this, even though Suppers ready is genesis best song ever.

Supper's Ready. Boring?

        

I don't even know how to respond to that.



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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 08:27
Originally posted by supper'sready72 supper'sready72 wrote:

Originally posted by Syndromet Syndromet wrote:

Come on!!! One of these tracks is fresh and exiting, the other is just boring. CTTE clearly wins this, even though Suppers ready is genesis best song ever.

Supper's Ready. Boring?

        

I don't even know how to respond to that.

I agree with him if you compers the 2 songs Supper is boring, it yust doesnt come close to "Close to the edge" sorry but thats the truth...  And thats why Close to the edge wins becaus it have so much amazing playing and is so tight its mind blowing while Supper is yust long out stretched and completly boring at times. Ofcourse it hase its moments but nothing that comes close to the edge...



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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 08:45

Supper's Ready bores me...

 

CTTE makes me orgasm



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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: November 11 2005 at 08:46
Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

  Another point in SRs favor is the great drumming by Phil. Surely it was a sad day when he moved away form prog

I do agree. I find it very funny how, when Peter Gabriel and Phill Collins were togethr, they created amazign Prog, but when the split up, they both mad crappy pop music.

How does that happen?



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Posted By: White Duck
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 18:19

Supper´s ready for me



Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 19:56
SR for me, but there even except for As Sure as Eggs is Eggs, It's just amazing.

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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 20:13
CTTE.


Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 21:00
Supper's Ready is Genesis' best song, but I still prefer CTTE.

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Posted By: drumsandbass
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 22:02
CLose To The Edge. indefinitely


Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 22:12
If you don't think Supper's Ready is the BEST song ever. YOU'RE DEAD TO ME!!!!!!!!! 



...no I'm kidding. But seriously, I wasn't really a big fan of Genesis until now. Supper's Ready offers more to me musically than Close to the Edge. I felt like Close to the Edge lacked a message and therefore lacked a mood and imagery...albeit, you can argue that Jon Anderson is a good lyricist, but it doesn't really help me enjoy the song. I like Supper's Ready better because it's a bit more accesible and you can feel more involved in that song than Close to the Edge where you have to hear in awe as Rick Wakemen races his fingers around the keyboard...Give me a break.


Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 17 2005 at 22:23

I get up, I get down, I get up, I get down, I get up, I get down... What is this? A new rap?

Supper's ready forever and ever!



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Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 00:30

Woah tough one.

I guess Supper's Ready,but just barely.



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Posted By: carpet_crawler
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 01:45

Supper's Ready, boring? What the heck? I mean, Yes is incredibly talented -- perhaps more so than Genesis, although it still think that's based mainly on point of view. But still... Boring?

I don't see how the 4-minute build-up to the chorus (which is quite good, don't get me wrong) in CTTE isn't boring to some extent. And the "I get up, I get down" section? Well, it all boils down to personal taste.

SR gets my vote, though.



Posted By: Fritha
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 05:44

Originally posted by GPFR GPFR wrote:

SR for me, but there even except for As Sure as Eggs is Eggs, It's just amazing.

*sigh* I would so like to understand this sentence... Does one have to be a native English speaker to get the idea behind it?

Glad to see CTTE still firmly ahead of SR. It's only right, after all.



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Posted By: TerryG
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 06:01

       Like all GOOD music, It depends how I feel. If I listened to CTTE or SR everyday for a year I'd probably end up hating (well maybe not that much) them. I have different favourites all the time and I think all these polls of top albums etc are a bit false. Both these give me great memories back in '72 when I saw Genesis at the Oval (with Wishbone Ash/ELP/Focus/Jack Bruce/Argent ....) and then i heard CTTE at a gig I played in 'The Growling Budgie' in Leytonstone I think.(yes that's what it was called and come to think of it they played Focus' Moving Waves too.. you don't get that at a gig now do you) At a stretch maybe CTTE ........ but then another day SR ??



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Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 06:52
Answering This Question Is Like Choosing Between Two Children, I'm Almost Ashamed To Answer!!

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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 07:23
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

  Another point in SRs favor is the great drumming by Phil. Surely it was a sad day when he moved away form prog

I do agree. I find it very funny how, when Peter Gabriel and Phill Collins were togethr, they created amazign Prog, but when the split up, they both mad crappy pop music.

How does that happen?

 yeah, if you ignore the 5 years of great music they made without peter gabriel before turning pop.

 and some of their poppier songs are great, especially 'follow you, follow me'



Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 08:46
Originally posted by Fritha Fritha wrote:

Originally posted by GPFR GPFR wrote:

SR for me, but there even except for As Sure as Eggs is Eggs, It's just amazing.

*sigh* I would so like to understand this sentence... Does one have to be a native English speaker to get the idea behind it?

Glad to see CTTE still firmly ahead of SR. It's only right, after all.



As sure as Eggs is Eggs, the final part of suppers ready. Look at the little booklet that comes with the CD album. SR, Suppers Ready. "But there even" I guess I should have said until, not except in that sentance, but whatever. So there both just as good in my book until it gets to the ending of Supper's Ready, thats just exceptional, get it now??

Edit: You guys wouldn't know this but yesterday when I posted this I had an operation and probobly wasn't thinking to strait. So uhh... even though I can understand it, sorry if you can't.


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Posted By: Fritha
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 14:48

^ Yeah, GPFR, I get it now, thanks for taking the time to explain yourself a bit better, lol. Sorry to hear you had to get an operation, that can definitely cloud one's thinking...!

 



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Posted By: Heraclea
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 15:31
I voted Supper's Ready. I've just listened through CTTE once, and I can't say that I felt anything but disappointment, after seeing it ranked as the top symphonic prog album here at progarchives. I thought it would be better. Of course, it was good, and it will surely grow with some more listenings, but will it ever match Supper's Ready in my mind and heart? I don't think so. Supper's Ready is a ever changing tune, with lyrics with more layers than an onion, and a fantastic story behind thos lyrics as well. The only thing I dislike with it is that the studio version ends with a fadeout, but it's a good fadeout, to it's defence.

Supper's Ready, as sure as eggs is eggs.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 18:25

Supper's ready is my favorite song of all time 

In fact, Foxtrot and CTTE are my favorite albums of all time, but I think Supper's Ready has more harmony to it, more emotion. It's just a better composition IMO. And I think that And You And I is the best song off CTTE, not the title track. All are amazing, still



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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 18:29

Supper’s Ready

 

more interesting-



Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 21:04

Originally posted by Phil Phil wrote:

CTTE. Actually (whisper it...) there are several Genesis tracks I prefer to Supper's Ready....

 

my feelings exactly!



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Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: December 18 2005 at 21:17
I'm sort of a prog noob you could say and I've just listened to these 2 songs back to back and I'm going to have to say I really found Supper's Ready better and more interesting


Posted By: A'swepe
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 18:51

Close To The Edge for me.

I agree that Supper's Ready is NOT my favorite Genesis track, although it is very good. Let's go with Looking For Someone from Trespass, then The Musical Box, then Duke's Travels/Duke's End, then Supper'r Ready.



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Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 18:59

THIS POLL AGAIN!!

CTTE AGAIN!!



Posted By: ulfskjol
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 19:14

No doubt: Supper's ready. I've never considered CTTE to be the best Yessong anyway. I like both Roundabout, The Gates of Delirium and Starship Trooper better.

Now listening to XTC - Apple Venus Vol. 1, wonderful!!! A must for those who love a healthy mixture of pop and advanced rock

Uffe



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Posted By: Olympus
Date Posted: December 19 2005 at 19:28
Well I really like Close to the Edge and I also like Suppers Ready but I'll Go with Close to the Edge because I like it a lot more 

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Posted By: AngleofRepose
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 22:45
I've voted in one of these before, and Supper's Ready keeps getting
further ahead. Close to the Edge could have been about 12 minutes, and
Supper's Ready can't lose a minute.

The vocals have so much more urgency and passion in Supper's Ready.


Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: February 08 2006 at 22:47
In order :
1-Supper's Ready
2-Gates of Delirium
3-Close to the edge


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