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Topic: McCartney’s new album - Prog?
Posted By: jojim
Subject: McCartney’s new album - Prog?
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 16:56
I have it heard 43 times in the last 5 days. I'm a prog lover - no - a prog enthusiast. But why do I listen to that album 43 times, while YES, KC and others have to wait for better times at the moment.

Am I nuts? Or is that album ("Chaos and creation in the backyard") a kind of prog but in the song environment? He played nearly all instruments himself.

Any thoughts?


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Posted By: viperjr98
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 17:07

I've always thought McCartney had a little bit of prog in him, primarily in his later Beatles work, but also in songs such as Live and Let Die and Maybe I'm Amazed.

I think he suffered as most artists did from an attempt at commercialism through the 80's and 90's, but I haven't heard any of his newer stuff.  Perhaps I should give it a try.

 



Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 17:11
I don't know, have to hear it myself.


Posted By: jojim
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 17:15
You definitly should give this new album a try. I can't stop listen to it. This is like a nightmare. Paul is so profound in this songs

Try: "Jenny Wren" or "Riding to vanity faire". The latter is a kind of mysterious song with a very strong atmosphere.

When it comes to "This never happened before" or "Anyway" I realize myself swinging around my body like a dancer. But I#m definitely not nuts. I'm a prog lover.

There is no song that I don't like on this album. At the beginning (5 days ago) I thought: "Ok another McCartney album. So what!!). But now I'm like in a dream.

Very strange.


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Posted By: Prosciutto
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 20:00
McCartney once did a true progressive song in the late 80's, "We got married" from the album "Flowers in the Dirt", a very "PF/Roger Waters" kind of song. Now it seems he did it again, I'll have to hear it myself.

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Posted By: Sam Fire
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 20:27
I haven't heard the album in it's entirety yet, since my friends (who still believe in Beatlemania and who, for some strange, unknown reason, remain convinced that Ringo Starr is way better than Neil Peart...  IN WHAT FRICKIN' WAY?!?!...   ).. anyways, those friends refuse to burn it for me on the grounds that it is taking money away from Paul (as if he needs more money), and I don't feel like forking out the funds to purchase this album.  But the songs that I have heard (which are very good to begin with) do seem somewhat progressive. 

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Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 20:59
I wouldn't call "Chaos And Creation In The Backyard" prog, but it's a step in the progressive-direction definitely, worth a peek.


Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 21:51

Great Album. I just saw him in concert and it was incredible. he's jsut as good , or better, than he was back then. He played for 2 and 1/2 hours nonstop!

but as ood as the album is, its not prog. Great songwriting/ playing. A unique bland of song styles..but not prog. 
a little in some of the stuff, but sadly not enoguh to call it prog.

 

it is a very addictiing album. Theres something about it, then when i listen to it once..i ahve to listen again, and again...and i got and listen to it about 70 times in 4 days....

 

Great ablum whether its prog or not.

 

as a side note to the creator of this thread- I dont think your trying to do it, but stop being sucha progsnob. " trust me i love prog, but this album's really good..so does that make it prog???"

There is good music outside of progressive rock, dont limit yourself.

Dont think that there is no good music outside of prog, or that all prog is good.

PROG=/= good. Most of it is, but some is not, and theres a lot of good music outside of prog



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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 30 2005 at 23:58
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I don't know, have to hear it myself.


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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 31 2005 at 01:10
I liked it well enough, but don't think it's remotely close to progressive rock ... one of his most consistent albums in a while ... although there is a little bit of deja vu feeling


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Posted By: samuel.jeronimo
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:35
Prog or not, it's a good album

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:31

Originally posted by Sam Fire Sam Fire wrote:

I haven't heard the album in it's entirety yet, since my friends (who still believe in Beatlemania and who, for some strange, unknown reason, remain convinced that Ringo Starr is way better than Neil Peart...  IN WHAT FRICKIN' WAY?!?!...   ).. anyways, those friends refuse to burn it for me on the grounds that it is taking money away from Paul (as if he needs more money), and I don't feel like forking out the funds to purchase this album.  But the songs that I have heard (which are very good to begin with) do seem somewhat progressive. 

Tell them that he'd hardly miss the 5p he would get from one more album sale



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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:30

The album's an interesting collection of music - more introspective and confessional. But prog? I don't see it at all, not even a little bit. I suspect you're kidding so that you could post this on a prog rock website. 

I like the hidden instrumental track at the end of track 13 - now that may have a prog feel.



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Posted By: Laurent
Date Posted: November 01 2005 at 17:19

Originally posted by Prosciutto Prosciutto wrote:

McCartney once did a true progressive song in the late 80's, "We got married" from the album "Flowers in the Dirt", a very "PF/Roger Waters" kind of song. Now it seems he did it again, I'll have to hear it myself.

Didn't David Gilmour play lead guitar on that song?.



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