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Topic: Question about Atomic Rooster
Posted By: BaldFriede
Subject: Question about Atomic Rooster
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 18:42
I really love the first album of Atomic Rooster. I had it on vinyl only, and when it finally came out on CD I bought it and was deeply disappointed: The record company had for some reason mixed a heavy metal guitar onto the album, which did not exist in the vinyl version! Now while bass player Nick Graham played some electric guitar on the album, it nowhere sounded like this. This additional heavy metal guitar is an atrocity and at least an anachronism; no guitar like that existed in 1970. The question I have is: Does the current CD-version of their first album still contain that heavy metal guitar? If not, I can finally close this gap in our CD-collection; our vinyl version of the album is rather worn-out.

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 18:43
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I really love the first album of Atomic Rooster. I had it on vinyl only, and when it finally came out on CD I bought it and was deeply disappointed: The record company had for some reason mixed a heavy metal guitar onto the album, which did not exist in the vinyl version! Now while bass player Nick Graham played some electric guitar on the album, it nowhere sounded like this. This additional heavy metal guitar is an atrocity and at least an anachronism; no guitar like that existed in 1970 (apart from High Tide, that is). The question I have is: Does the current CD-version of their first album still contain that heavy metal guitar? If not, I can finally close this gap in our CD-collection; our vinyl version of the album is rather worn-out.


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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.


Posted By: Lorak
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:38
Curious that they would do that in a reissue of a album!

I'd like to find a CD release of this album myself.  Thanks for the warning and hopefully someone will answer you as to the newer release. 

Aloha


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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 19:46
No electric insanities on my version of it.Repertoire.

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Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: October 26 2005 at 21:36

I just ordered the new Castle remasters with bonus tracks through the local record company here ... it's due to arrive soon, I'll let you know ...

I've heard two of the songs though .. both brilliant & utterly depressing ... Banstead and Winter ... I can imagine that the impact would be reduced with some cliched metal guitar ...



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Posted By: Prosciutto
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 15:54

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I really love the first album of Atomic Rooster. I had it on vinyl only, and when it finally came out on CD I bought it and was deeply disappointed: The record company had for some reason mixed a heavy metal guitar onto the album, which did not exist in the vinyl version! Now while bass player Nick Graham played some electric guitar on the album, it nowhere sounded like this. This additional heavy metal guitar is an atrocity and at least an anachronism; no guitar like that existed in 1970. The question I have is: Does the current CD-version of their first album still contain that heavy metal guitar? If not, I can finally close this gap in our CD-collection; our vinyl version of the album is rather worn-out.

There are two versions of the first Atomic Rooster Album, the original (which might be the one you had on vinyl) features the original line-up on all tracks: Vincent Crane (organ, piano), Nick Graham (voice, bass, flute) and Carl Palmer (drums).

Soon later Nick Graham left the band and was replaced by guitarist John Cann and the band with the new line-up re-recorded three tracks for the American version of the album, those tracks are: Friday 13th and the instrumentals S.L.Y. and Before Tomorrow. These tracks replaced the original ones and the track order was changed as well. The CD reissue is exactly the same as the American version.  I guess that's the CD you've purchased.

However, the 2004 CD re-release features for the first time on CD the original version of the album (both in recording and track order) plus the John Cann's re-recorded tracks as bonus.



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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: October 27 2005 at 17:00
Originally posted by Prosciutto Prosciutto wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I really love the first album of Atomic Rooster. I had it on vinyl only, and when it finally came out on CD I bought it and was deeply disappointed: The record company had for some reason mixed a heavy metal guitar onto the album, which did not exist in the vinyl version! Now while bass player Nick Graham played some electric guitar on the album, it nowhere sounded like this. This additional heavy metal guitar is an atrocity and at least an anachronism; no guitar like that existed in 1970. The question I have is: Does the current CD-version of their first album still contain that heavy metal guitar? If not, I can finally close this gap in our CD-collection; our vinyl version of the album is rather worn-out.

There are two versions of the first Atomic Rooster Album, the original (which might be the one you had on vinyl) features the original line-up on all tracks: Vincent Crane (organ, piano), Nick Graham (voice, bass, flute) and Carl Palmer (drums).

Soon later Nick Graham left the band and was replaced by guitarist John Cann and the band with the new line-up re-recorded three tracks for the American version of the album, those tracks are: Friday 13th and the instrumentals S.L.Y. and Before Tomorrow. These tracks replaced the original ones and the track order was changed as well. The CD reissue is exactly the same as the American version.  I guess that's the CD you've purchased.

However, the 2004 CD re-release features for the first time on CD the original version of the album (both in recording and track order) plus the John Cann's re-recorded tracks as bonus.

Thank you very much. That certainly explains a lot.



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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 06:48

I had only heard the Repertoir release and this did not strike me! Thanks for the topic

However Atomic Rooster is another one of these bands to have different artwork for their albums and both versionshould appear on here (as for GG) on the next version of the site!



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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: October 28 2005 at 11:20

I've had the Akarma version for a while andf I don't remember that being drenched in heavy metal guitar, nor the tracks I have on the anthology 'Heavy Soul'.

Now I understand a query I've had for sometime- in a magazine I once read, it said that someone was after a copy of 'Atomic Rooster's first album without the guitars', that puzzled me for a bit.

One of my favourite bands!




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