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Topic: Sport in progPosted By: DoobieBrother6
Subject: Sport in prog
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 06:22
Sports suck.
Competitive sports and nationalism are Evils. Aye.
Sport is dead boring also. But what is worse is the trite sports champion interview after the event. "I am proud of all my sports-mates.I shall give it my all and make Canada proud. You don't know how much this award means to me." Yadda, yadda....
Thankfully there is little sports in prog.
Wakeman - Gaole - White Rock
Tangerine Dream - got to be something...but I can't think of any just now
The ubiquitous thrift store lp: Vangelis "Chariots of Fire"
Pink Floyd -Fearless
Jethro Tull - Skating...
Isn't there a cricketting song by Harper??? Anyways...not prog
Sports cuts through the space-time continuum . Stars blinking out of being. Voids swallowed.
Sport can go jump.
Replies: Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 06:43
Like Nick Mason, I rather like my Sports to be Fictitious.
I love the Electronic/Krautrock series of Kosmischer Läufer albums (or volumes) titled "The secret cosmic music of the East German Olympic Program" and the "story" that goes along with the project.
From https://www.kosmischerlaufer.com/biography/" rel="nofollow - https://www.kosmischerlaufer.com/biography/
In East Germany in the early 1970’s Martin Zeichnete worked as a sound editor for DEFA, (Deutsche Film-Aktiengesellschaft), the state-owned film studio. Like many young East Germans of the time he would listen furtively to West German radio at night and became infatuated with the Kosmische Musik or ‘Krautrock’ epitomised by the likes of Kraftwerk, Neu! and Cluster emerging from his neighbouring country. Martin, a keen runner, hit upon the idea of using the repetitive, motorik beats of this new music as a training aid for athletes. He thought it could benefit the mind as well as the body with the pulsing, hypnotic music bringing focus. A ‘borrowed’ prototype of Andreas Pavel’s Stereobelt showed Martin the technology to provide music on the move already existed and could easily be adapted for runners.
After sharing his concept with colleagues Martin was taken from his studio to East Berlin, quizzed by the authorities about his ideas and, fearing the worst, was surprised to find himself put to work by the Nationales Olympisches Komitee immediately. Installed in a cold Berlin studio with the few electronic instruments the state could supply, (Martin asked for a Moog but was refused), he began one of the strangest journeys in music. Known to the government as State Plan 14.84L, Martin and his fellow musicians informally called it ‘Projekt Kosmischer Läufer’ (Cosmic Runner).
For the next 11 years Martin would be spirited to Berlin to work on tracks with little notice. He created hours of music fusing traditional rock instruments with synthesizers, early drum computers, tape slicing and looping techniques he and his engineer formulated themselves. His output included tracks for running at various paces, warm up pieces, ‘ambient’ music to play in gyms during training and pieces for artistic gymnastic routines.
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 06:51
I heard one Läufer cd and it was wonderful.
....
Genesis had that blue viny EP.
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 07:20
Genesis - Match of the Day Queen - We are the Champions
Posted By: Hosydi
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 07:24
Caravan's Golf Girl stands out as a notable example of how progressive rock can intersect with themes from sports like golf.
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 10:07
While I 100% disagree with the OP on sports, in answer to his question, I'll mention:
Stackridge - Anyone for Tennis?
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 13:23
YES - Going for the One!
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 14:00
Cream - "Anyone for Tennis?" (Okay already - not prog. More like poppsych)
Posted By: DoobieBrother6
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 14:09
Helmut Hattler- Bassball
Release Music Orchestra - Get the Ball
Was it not Wishbone Ash that had the cover of a criket ball next to crotch? (But at that point they would not be prog)
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 14:29
Major Parkinson - Baseball
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 14:45
------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 15:00
IZZ's song 42 on their Don't Panic album is a tribute to the great Jackie Robinson.
Oh, and baseball does not suck.
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 16:01
Complete disagreement with the OP on sports.
Manfred Mann Earth Band "Runner" is very good. Trevor Rabin played the guitar solo on that track.
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 16:26
progaardvark wrote:
IZZ's song 42 on their Don't Panic album is a tribute to the great Jackie Robinson.
Oh, and baseball does not suck.
Baseball absolutely does not suck. Going through withdrawals right now since my son finished his college baseball career as a starting pitcher. Been a fan of baseball since 1972. Johnny Bench is my all-time favourite player. The exact moment of when he became my favorite was when he hit the game tying homerun in the 9th inning against the Pirates in the 72 NL playoffs. Reds went on to win to beat the Pirates and meet the A's in the World Series, which they unfortunately lost to in 7 games.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 16:27
Last Eleven by Big Big Train is inspired by cricket
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Posted By: fredyair
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 21:37
Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports
------------- Long live Progresive music!
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 27 2025 at 23:12
Yep as a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan I can indeed concur that sport sucks! In general the EPL is about money and the clubs are nearly owned by massive foreign concerns who have little interest in the history or the fans that made the game what it is. Youngsters support the money made teams aand think its real. Yes I am very bitter about it. No joy no fun unless you support the fake success that is around.
Anyway the obvious one is:
Roy Harper - When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease
such a quaint old game
Does Bob Dillon - Hurricane count? It was about a boxer that was imprisoned falsely. Spawned a great film with Denzil Washington.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 01:05
richardh wrote:
...
Anyway the obvious one is:
Roy Harper - When An Old Cricketer Leaves The Crease
...
Hi,
One of the best things in that album is the fantastic piece ... "The Game, Pts 1-5" ... and there is only one person that played it so much that I had to get another copy of the album ... it's a terrible shame, that "progressive" folks don't always sit through those moments ... and yes, it is not a 4 minute song at all ... and many of the prog purists don't like long stuff ... and you already know what Roy would say about that ... and the same old rock!
Even today, you won't even hear Roy anywhere, except us talking about it here!
BTW, the album had another title ... "Headquarters" ... and I think that was not the English title, which was the Crease thing, as America would not recognize that title much, and would help fans leave it behind ... makes you wonder what the whole world was thinking ... of course ... America without cricket? What a shame!!!!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 01:11
Atavachron wrote:
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Babe Ruth - First Base
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Hi,
And what a fantastic show they put on at The Whiskey in Hollywood ... however, the sad part is that the audience ignored them some, as they were waiting for Iggy and The Stooges to take the stage.
After such a great show, and Janita in excellent form, we ended up leaving 10 minutes into Iggy and the Stooges ... after you saw 10 minutes, you did not need to see anything else from them!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 03:19
I prefer politics
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 03:26
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 04:25
richardh wrote:
Yep as a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan I can indeed concur that sport sucks! In general the EPL is about money and the clubs are nearly owned by massive foreign concerns who have little interest in the history or the fans that made the game what it is. Youngsters support the money made teams and think its real. Yes I am very bitter about it. No joy no fun unless you support the fake success that is around.
I will see your Wolves shirt and raise it to a Leicester one... we have spent the last 2-3 seasons caught in the eye of the FFP storm and I fear for our future over the next 5 or so seasons as a consequence... you don't want to get me started.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 05:00
Jared wrote:
richardh wrote:
Yep as a Wolverhampton Wanderers fan I can indeed concur that sport sucks! In general the EPL is about money and the clubs are nearly owned by massive foreign concerns who have little interest in the history or the fans that made the game what it is. Youngsters support the money made teams and think its real. Yes I am very bitter about it. No joy no fun unless you support the fake success that is around.
I will see your Wolves shirt and raise it to a Leicester one... we have spent the last 2-3 seasons caught in the eye of the FFP storm and I fear for our future over the next 5 or so seasons as a consequence... you don't want to get me started.
You 'win' .
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 09:54
From the Wikipedia page of Ralf Hütter, Kraftwerk:
Hütter is an enthusiastic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling" rel="nofollow - cycling
fan, a fact reflected in some of the band's work. It was widely claimed
that, when he was on tour, the group's bus would drop off Hütter 100
miles away from the next venue and he would cycle the rest of the way, a
story that Hütter later confirmed. The band members took up cycling when recording the album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man-Machine" rel="nofollow - The Man-Machine in the late 1970s. Ralf Hütter had been looking for a new form of exercise. The single " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_%28song%29" rel="nofollow - Tour de France "
includes sounds that follow this theme, including bicycle chains, gear
mechanisms and the breathing of the cyclist. At the time of the single's
release Ralf Hütter tried to persuade the rest of the band that they
should record a whole album based around cycling. At the time this did
not happen, but the project eventually was released as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_Soundtracks" rel="nofollow - Tour de France Soundtracks in 2003.
Hütter was involved in a serious cycling accident in May or June 1982, during the initial period of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_recording_and_reproduction" rel="nofollow - recording for the 1986 album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Caf%C3%A9" rel="nofollow - Electric Café . He was in a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma" rel="nofollow - coma as a result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bartos" rel="nofollow - Karl Bartos
claimed the first thing Hütter said when he awoke from his coma was
"Where is my bicycle?", a story Hütter later disputed in a June 2009
interview in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian" rel="nofollow - The Guardian .
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 10:35
Gong - 'Continental Circus' - motor cycle racing
Robert Wyatt - 'Team Spirit'
Robert Calvert - 'Cricket Star'
wasn't Wakeman's White Rock based on the winter olympics?
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 11:52
fredyair wrote:
Nick Mason's Fictitious Sports
Hi,
Even better ... take a look at the folks that play in that album ... a total far out treat, and they all had fun, getting that motor to start!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Jaketejas
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 17:04
Did anyone mention Marathon by Rush?
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 28 2025 at 17:16
Lewian wrote:
From the Wikipedia page of Ralf Hütter, Kraftwerk:
Hütter is an enthusiastic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling" rel="nofollow - cycling fan, a fact reflected in some of the band's work. It was widely claimed that, when he was on tour, the group's bus would drop off Hütter 100 miles away from the next venue and he would cycle the rest of the way, a story that Hütter later confirmed. The band members took up cycling when recording the album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man-Machine" rel="nofollow - The Man-Machine in the late 1970s. Ralf Hütter had been looking for a new form of exercise. The single " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_%28song%29" rel="nofollow - Tour de France " includes sounds that follow this theme, including bicycle chains, gear mechanisms and the breathing of the cyclist. At the time of the single's release Ralf Hütter tried to persuade the rest of the band that they should record a whole album based around cycling. At the time this did not happen, but the project eventually was released as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_Soundtracks" rel="nofollow - Tour de France Soundtracks in 2003.
Hütter was involved in a serious cycling accident in May or June 1982, during the initial period of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_recording_and_reproduction" rel="nofollow - recording for the 1986 album https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Caf%C3%A9" rel="nofollow - Electric Café . He was in a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma" rel="nofollow - coma as a result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Bartos" rel="nofollow - Karl Bartos claimed the first thing Hütter said when he awoke from his coma was "Where is my bicycle?", a story Hütter later disputed in a June 2009 interview in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian" rel="nofollow - The Guardian .
Interesting, had read that before, and I like the release. In the fictitious sports-related arena, it does remind me of the faux backstory for Martin Zeichnete with the Kosmischer Läufer albums (or volumes) titled "The secret cosmic music of the East German Olympic Program" that I shared earlier in this topic. Seems that may well have inspired this "backstory" by the actual creator of KL. I think the cat has been out of the beanbag race's bag on that for many years now.
/ ]In East Germany in the early 1970’s Martin Zeichnete worked as a sound editor for DEFA, (Deutsche Film-Aktiengesellschaft), the state-owned film studio. Like many young East Germans of the time he would listen furtively to West German radio at night and became infatuated with the Kosmische Musik or ‘Krautrock’ epitomised by the likes of Kraftwerk, Neu! and Cluster emerging from his neighbouring country. Martin, a keen runner, hit upon the idea of using the repetitive, motorik beats of this new music as a training aid for athletes. He thought it could benefit the mind as well as the body with the pulsing, hypnotic music bringing focus. A ‘borrowed’ prototype of Andreas Pavel’s Stereobelt showed Martin the technology to provide music on the move already existed and could easily be adapted for runners.
After sharing his concept with colleagues Martin was taken from his studio to East Berlin, quizzed by the authorities about his ideas and, fearing the worst, was surprised to find himself put to work by the Nationales Olympisches Komitee immediately. Installed in a cold Berlin studio with the few electronic instruments the state could supply, (Martin asked for a Moog but was refused), he began one of the strangest journeys in music. Known to the government as State Plan 14.84L, Martin and his fellow musicians informally called it ‘Projekt Kosmischer Läufer’ (Cosmic Runner).
For the next 11 years Martin would be spirited to Berlin to work on tracks with little notice. He created hours of music fusing traditional rock instruments with synthesizers, early drum computers, tape slicing and looping techniques he and his engineer formulated themselves. His output included tracks for running at various paces, warm up pieces, ‘ambient’ music to play in gyms during training and pieces for artistic gymnastic routines.
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 09:28
Godley & Creme - This Sporting Life
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 03 2025 at 09:43
Many have disagreed with me, but I consider Cream to be proto-prog. Cream's "Anyone for Tennis?" is not Prog, but I still want to mention it. Here's a fun TV performance with them from about 1968 with the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2f6-U72Zk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2f6-U72Zk
Posted By: pauldunhill
Date Posted: March 30 2025 at 13:27
I have it on very good authority…….cough…….that Gentle Giant named
themselves after Leeds Utd and Juventus centre half John Charles……….
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 30 2025 at 23:07
I once read an interview with Jon Anderson of Yes, who expressed great admiration for the Brazilian soccer player Pele!
Other than that, nothing.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 31 2025 at 03:28
The Croquet championship standings in TAAB's St Cleves's Chronicles back page
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: March 31 2025 at 09:14