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Topic: Alterative Rock 1989-1991
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Subject: Alterative Rock 1989-1991
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:15
I feel 1989-1991 was the sweet spot for alternative rock.  I include prog bands like Primus.  So many great albums.Wink  

List the albums from the year you chose that speak to you.



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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:19
God... firstly, how are you defining Alternative Rock? what is, what isn't?

also, can you give us some idea of what albums were released in each year, which might come under this banner?

I have to say, this is the vaguest poll I think I've ever seen?


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:42
For me, Gish was the best of that crop. The whole grunge/alt thing was largely marketing in my opinion. Everyone who thought Nirvana/Pearl Jam were so groundbreaking, that sound had basically been covered long before and better by other bands. Husker Du, Replacements, Minutemen, Firehose, on and on--most of those early 90s explosion were nothing new. 

But Gish was a cool twist that actually rocked and felt like, Whoa, what is this? Gish and Mellon Collie in particular were stunning.


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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:44
This has to be the most open-ended poll I've ever seen, but I like it. Tongue

5 stars 1991: U2 - Achtung Baby -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_PZZm2fi_VookorvBcEsWlOe0sOFsk8i" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_PZZm2fi_VookorvBcEsWlOe0sOFsk8i


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:48
1991

Swans
Metallica
Nirvana
Soundgarden


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 08:51
Alterative really ?


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:00
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

God... firstly, how are you defining Alternative Rock? what is, what isn't?

also, can you give us some idea of what albums were released in each year, which might come under this banner?

I have to say, this is the vaguest poll I think I've ever seen?

Fair question.  I mean non-prog, never rap, not Punk, not country, not 70's classic rock bands, Heavy Metal or jazz.

Here's a partial list from my favorite year- 1990   
If you were to map these albums, they would form the fuzzy boundaries for the type of albums. That said, there are forms of this rock that I don't like and didn't include. I hope you get the idea. Wink 

Concrete Blonde- "Bloodletting"
They Might Be Giants- "Flood"
Jane's Addiction- "Ritual de lo Habitual" 
The Sundays- "Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic" 
Jellyfish- "Bellybutton"
World Party- "Goodbye Jumbo"
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds- "The Good Son"
Midnight Oil- "Bluesky Mining"
Social Distortion- "Social Distortion" 
Phish- "Lawn Boy"
Depeche Mode- Violator
Sineade O"Connor- "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"
INXS- "X"
Living Color- "Times Up"
Pixies- "Bosso nova" 
Enigma- "MCMXC a.D."
Alice in Chains- "Facelift"
Sonic Youth- "Goo"
Primus- "Frizzle Fry"
The B-52's- "Cosmic Thing"
Cocteau Twins' "Heaven or Las Vegas "
Dead Can Dance- "Aion"
The Lighting Seeds- "Cloudcuckooland"




Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:07
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

God... firstly, how are you defining Alternative Rock? what is, what isn't?

also, can you give us some idea of what albums were released in each year, which might come under this banner?

I have to say, this is the vaguest poll I think I've ever seen?

Fair question.  I mean non-prog, never rap, not Punk, not country, not 70's classic rock bands, Heavy Metal or jazz.

Here's a partial list from my favorite year- 1990   
If you were to map these albums, they would form the fuzzy boundaries for the type of albums. That said, there are forms of this rock that I don't like and didn't include. I hope you get the idea. Wink 

Concrete Blonde- "Bloodletting"
They Might Be Giants- "Flood"
Jane's Addiction- "Ritual de lo Habitual" 
The Sundays- "Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic" 
Jellyfish- "Bellybutton"
World Party- "Goodbye Jumbo"
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds- "The Good Son"
Midnight Oil- "Bluesky Mining"
Social Distortion- "Social Distortion" 
Phish- "Lawn Boy"
Depeche Mode- Violator
Sineade O"Connor- "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"
INXS- "X"
Living Color- "Times Up"
Pixies- "Bosso nova" 
Enigma- "MCMXC a.D."
Alice in Chains- "Facelift"
Sonic Youth- "Goo"


Primus- "Frizzle Fry"





Oh Ok Cindy, thanks for the explanation... of course I've heard of some of these bands, but they are all a long way outside my sphere of understanding, so I'll bow out here... Smile


for me personally, this was a fairly meagre few years, where I was still clinging on to whatever bone Yes, Rush, Marillion, Queensryche, Alan Parsons, BJH and Kansas could throw in my direction... none of the above registered with me tbh..


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:10
Then I've gone for 1990 for Cocteau Twins' Heaven or Las Vegas and Depeche Mode's Violator.

1991 strikes me as a classic year with Nirvana, Soundgarden (and Swans, which I adore) if they all count.

By the way as a young man, I was not into any of that stuff (or little of it, I should say) at the time. It's mostly the music I got into much more recently that is meaningful to me. My tastes and interests have not been stagnant and I continue to discover new music and avenues for many decades to get into and love. That said, I'm hardly the most voracious music consumer at this forum. Nor the most adventurous or open-eared/ open-minded.


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:17
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

For me, Gish was the best of that crop. The whole grunge/alt thing was largely marketing in my opinion. Everyone who thought Nirvana/Pearl Jam were so groundbreaking, that sound had basically been covered long before and better by other bands. Husker Du, Replacements, Minutemen, Firehose, on and on--most of those early 90s explosion were nothing new. 

But Gish was a cool twist that actually rocked and felt like, Whoa, what is this? Gish and Mellon Collie in particular were stunning.

Gish is by far my favorite Smashing Pumpkins album.Clap


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:26
Blood Sugar Sex Magik is another huge feather in the cap of 1991.


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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:29
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

God... firstly, how are you defining Alternative Rock? what is, what isn't?

also, can you give us some idea of what albums were released in each year, which might come under this banner?

I have to say, this is the vaguest poll I think I've ever seen?

Fair question.  I mean non-prog, never rap, not Punk, not country, not 70's classic rock bands, Heavy Metal or jazz.

Here's a partial list from my favorite year- 1990   
If you were to map these albums, they would form the fuzzy boundaries for the type of albums. That said, there are forms of this rock that I don't like and didn't include. I hope you get the idea. Wink 

Concrete Blonde- "Bloodletting"
They Might Be Giants- "Flood"
Jane's Addiction- "Ritual de lo Habitual" 
The Sundays- "Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic" 
Jellyfish- "Bellybutton"
World Party- "Goodbye Jumbo"
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds- "The Good Son"
Midnight Oil- "Bluesky Mining"
Social Distortion- "Social Distortion" 
Phish- "Lawn Boy"
Depeche Mode- Violator
Sineade O"Connor- "I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got"
INXS- "X"
Living Color- "Times Up"
Pixies- "Bosso nova" 
Enigma- "MCMXC a.D."
Alice in Chains- "Facelift"
Sonic Youth- "Goo"
Primus- "Frizzle Fry"
The B-52's- "Cosmic Thing"
Cocteau Twins' "Heaven or Las Vegas "
Dead Can Dance- "Aion"




Bloodletting was awesome. Got to see them live. Great band.


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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 09:49
Lot's of great music across those three years and I have many favorites. About half of what Cindy listed for 1990 would be among my own list of favorites.

I think I will go with 1991. Some of mine might fall under alt-metal. The last one on my list is in PA as prog metal. I do not think they are prog metal. 

Smashing Pumpkins - Gish
Primus - Sailing on the Seas of Cheese
Rollins Band - End of Silence
Nirvana - Nevermind
Bullet Lavolta - Swandive
My Bloody Valentine - loveless
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
Fugazi - Steady Diet of Nothing
Screaming Trees - Uncle Anesthesia
Dinosaur Jr. - Green Mind
Pearl Jam - Ten
Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog
Tribe After Tribe - Tribe After Tribe
Corrosion of Conformity - Blind
Warrior Soul - Drugs, God and the New Republic
Last Crack - Burning Time


Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 10:04
Of significance to the history of "alternative rock," 1991 was the year of the first Lolapalooza. Rollins Band, Butthole Surfers, Ice-T with Body Count, Nine Inch Nails, Living Color, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Jane's Addiction. I was at one of the shows in Irivne, CA.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: February 01 2025 at 10:51
I'm not good when it comes to rating years. I tend to forget what was in what year, and the year indications in my system are often one year off, which is bad for voting in a poll like this. Also the alt rock label isn't very informative, apparently it can apply to all kinds of stuff with potentially very little in common.

Awesome albums from that period include (leaving out anything that is on PA)
Shudder to Think - Funeral at the Movies (my favourite band that came up around that time)
Test Dept. - Gododdin
They Might Be Giants -  Flood
Einstuerzende Neubauten - Haus der Luege
Joe Jackson - Blaze of Glory
Marc Ribot - Rootless Cosmopolitans
Suzanne Vega - Days of Open Hand
Nirvana - Nevermind



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