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Topic: Final Cut or Pros & ConsPosted By: Heart of the Matter
Subject: Final Cut or Pros & Cons
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:24
Both are Odi et Amo cases, I guess. Let's see what happens...
Replies: Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:26
I overplayed both at some point.
The Final Cut i guess.
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:37
Roger Waters - The Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:41
I like both, but my vote goes to Linzi Drew.
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:41
Neither. Life is too short.
------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:43
Finnforest wrote:
Neither. Life is too short.
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 06:51
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
I like both, but my vote goes to Linzi Drew.
She's hot, unrelated but hot
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:10
Neither, I've tried, really I have.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:20
Not to mention the annoying Rogerism from this era whereby he keeps going from barely audible whisper level volume to full throttle volume, making it difficult to set a proper level on the stereo that works for both portions of the album. If you set the volume on a quiet part and then walk away, boom, the loud part kicks in and every neighbor is cursing you until you get back to the receiver. It's not really dramatic, Rog. It's just annoying. Or maybe it's just my memory. I haven't played Pros and Cons in ages.
------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:29
Cristi wrote:
I overplayed both at some point.
The Final Cut i guess.
Ditto, but TFC will always be the more relevant and moving album for me.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:30
Final Cut Pro.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:41
Finnforest wrote:
Not to mention the annoying Rogerism from this era whereby he keeps going from barely audible whisper level volume to full throttle volume, making it difficult to set a proper level on the stereo that works for both portions of the album. If you set the volume on a quiet part and then walk away, boom, the loud part kicks in and every neighbor is cursing you until you get back to the receiver. It's not really dramatic, Rog. It's just annoying. Or maybe it's just my memory. I haven't played Pros and Cons in ages.
Rogerism was in the air back then, but neighbors never gave a sh*t about it!
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 07:55
TFC
That one makes sense.
I'm not sure sure about P&C
I prefer both to Gilmour's solo projects of About Face and AMLOR
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 08:20
Personally, I prefer David Gilmour's first two solo albums David Gilmour (1978) and About Face (1984) than Roger Waters first two solo albums (the first allegedly a Pink Floyd album).
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 09:09
Finnforest wrote:
Neither. Life is too short.
agreed....
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 10:03
The Final Cut. A depressing album that kind of fits the mood of the present time. It appears from now on incompetence is a positive attribute.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 10:05
Neither . .
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 10:38
The Dark Elf wrote:
Personally, I prefer David Gilmour's first two solo albums David Gilmour (1978) and About Face (1984) than Roger Waters first two solo albums (the first allegedly a Pink Floyd album).
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 12:39
The Final Cut (by a mile) which was essentially the conclusion of themes explored on The Wall (and to an extent was leftovers from that). To this day I still have no clue as to what Pros & Cons is about it, and I've listened to it enough times.
------------- Is it any wonder that the monkey's confused?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 12:40
PF no contest. P&C bores me.
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 15:26
The Final Cut, easily.
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Posted By: Hector Enrique
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 15:42
1. The Final Cut
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2. Pros & Cons
------------- Héctor Enrique
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 15:44
Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 16:54
The Final Cut in this contexy,
but I prefer Amused to Death, a great album.
------------- Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 19:44
someone_else wrote:
The Final Cut, easily.
It's one of those albums where the emotion is tangible. I get that people don't like Waters but man...
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 22 2025 at 22:08
None
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 00:02
The Final Cut. Last year I've seen it performed live by a tribute band with Harry Waters as guest and it deserves more love, IMO. I quite like Pros and Cons, but I don't think Clapton is the best fit for Waters stuff.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 23 2025 at 02:25
octopus-4 wrote:
The Final Cut. Last year I've seen it performed live by a tribute band with Harry Waters as guest and it deserves more love, IMO. I quite like Pros and Cons, but I don't think Clapton is the best fit for Waters stuff.
Gilmour is the best guitarist suited for Roger's stuff.
Beck did quite a good job too.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword