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Topic: Upbeat/Diverse Post Rock?Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Subject: Upbeat/Diverse Post Rock?
Date Posted: December 16 2024 at 09:29
Anyone have suggestions for some Post Rock of the more upbeat/experimental variety that is more than just jangly guitars & air scapes?
I will take songs or albums...
Replies: Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 18 2024 at 16:52
Swans - To Be Kind
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 18 2024 at 17:39
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
Anyone have suggestions for some Post Rock of the more upbeat/experimental variety that is more than just jangly guitars & air scapes?
I will take songs or albums...
I'm a bit stuck for ideas, as most of the Post Rock I've listened to so far is just jangly guitars and air scapes.
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: December 18 2024 at 19:34
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
Anyone have suggestions for some Post Rock of the more upbeat/experimental variety that is more than just jangly guitars & air scapes?
I will take songs or albums...
I'm a bit stuck for ideas, as most of the Post Rock I've listened to so far is just jangly guitars and air scapes.
Am I right, that's what I'm sayin!
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: December 18 2024 at 19:36
I don't know upbeat post-rock, the genre is often melancholic, moody, atmospheric.
I will create a list of a few bands i find worth checking out if that's ok with you.
Yeah, upbeat Post Rock may be a bit of an oxymoron from what I've heard of it so far.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 07:18
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
Anyone have suggestions for some Post Rock of the more upbeat/experimental variety that is more than just jangly guitars & air scapes?
I will take songs or albums...
Maybe this will do the trick for you. It sure does for me. "New band" Maruja somehow manages to be Post Rock / Post-Punk and Jazz Rock (probably Hardcore too, but I'm no expert). They have like these aggressive spoken word parts, sweeping soundscapes, almost KC-Discipline era(guitar and sax)riffs, elements of noise and it all just works for me. They basically sound like a Post-Rock band coming from the Windmill-scene (which is perhaps not so far from the truth). So far they've only released two critically acclaimed EP's (and a handful of singles) one from 2023 (Knocknarea) and one this year. Combined they feel like a perfect 43:30 minute long album. But I'm guessing they will stretch more out on their fourthcoming full length. They will be on PA sooner or later. I started with their latest, so here's link to that:
https://marujaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/connlas-well" rel="nofollow - Connla's Well
Edit: + here 2023's https://marujaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/knocknarea" rel="nofollow - Knocknarea
Btw: "The Vault" is 85 minutes of collected improvisations recorded on an Iphone 2021-2023. I haven't gotten around to listen to it yet (but I will). So, not an album - and only shared with their fans on Bandcamp.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 07:58
"Upbeat" is very subjective. I listen to a lot of post rock but arguably most of it isn't so upbeat (I'm rather stunned that somebody may suggest Swans here ), but then what do I know. Much of Tortoise seems rather upbeat to me and also with a healthy done of experiment, but you know them already.
Maybe Kante fits your profile. They are classified here as post rock and have some rather upbeat stuff, also they mix styles a lot. Isn't this beautiful (both from the Zweilicht album)? One may just wonder whether their material that fits your criteria is really still post rock, but anyway... and even they are mostly somewhat gloomy.
Another upbeat one by Tristeza, despite the band's name.
Very upbeat German post rock, not "progressive" enough to be on PA (you may also try To Rococo Rot, who are more experimental but not quite that upbeat, also quite electronic):
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 08:23
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
I feel like today's post rock is anything but the best stuff from the ^ bands, no?
Maybe these two albums don't meet so well the requirements of your OP, but at least, I find them much more interesting and enjoyable than the usual Post-Rock:
Shora - Malval (2005)
Grails - Burning off Impurities (2007)
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 08:51
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
Anyone have suggestions for some Post Rock of the more upbeat/experimental variety that is more than just jangly guitars & air scapes?
I will take songs or albums...
Maybe this will do the trick for you. It sure does for me. "New band" Maruja somehow manages to be Post Rock / Post-Punk and Jazz Rock (probably Hardcore too, but I'm no expert). They have like these aggressive spoken word parts, sweeping soundscapes, almost KC-Discipline era(guitar and sax)riffs, elements of noise and it all just works for me. They basically sound like a Post-Rock band coming from the Windmill-scene (which is perhaps not so far from the truth). So far they've only released two critically acclaimed EP's (and a handful of singles) one from 2023 (Knocknarea) and one this year. Combined they feel like a perfect 43:30 minute long album. But I'm guessing they will stretch more out on their fourthcoming full length. They will be on PA sooner or later. I started with their latest, so here's link to that:
https://marujaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/connlas-well" rel="nofollow - Connla's Well
Edit: + here 2023's https://marujaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/knocknarea" rel="nofollow - Knocknarea
Btw: "The Vault" is 85 minutes of collected improvisations recorded on an Iphone 2021-2023. I haven't gotten around to listen to it yet (but I will). So, not an album - and only shared with their fans on Bandcamp.
Yeah, Maruja is pretty unique and good. Catchy, arty and angsty all in one.
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https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 09:02
You could try the third album by Greek band Deadfile, although their bandname doesn't exactly inspire me with confidence that they'll be "lively and upbeat".
DEADFILE File under philosophical Post Rock. If you've ignored Greek prog up to now, then that may be the worst decision since Socrates decided to drink the hemlock. Deadfile are from the sun-kissed island of Corfu in northwestern Greece and where, during the hazy lazy days of summer, there's ample time to study your flip-flops on the beach, whilst contemplating the Oneness of Being and Nothingness - as you do. After all, they don't call this kind of thoughtful, reflective music "Shoegazing" for nothing. The haunting, cinematic music of the enigmatically-tilled "Applied Oneironautics" is as creepy and suspense-filled as a Hitchcock thriller where, at any moment, you half-expect a knife-wielding maniac dressed in women's clothes to leap out of the shadows - although it's probably just transvestite comedian Eddie Izzard playing a prank again. Okay, so the music's not as thrilling as Sharon Stone's unforgettable leg-crossing scene in Basic Instinct, but at least no one dies here. Adding to the evocative atmosphere and meditative mood are the delicate tinkling ivories of a classical piano, combined with floating ethereal voices that drift gently in and out of the consciousness like a distant dream. The calm, tranquil atmosphere of this deeply hypnotic album makes it ideal listening for late at night with the lights turned down low, so if you're not fast asleep and dead to the world by the end of this introspective album, then you're either an insomniac, or you drank too much coffee before heading up the stairs to Bedfordshire. All in all then, "Applied Oneironautics" is as studious and thoughtful as a night spent in a Greek temple under the stars, contemplating the meaning of life, love and happiness, or wondering what on earth Level 42 is in The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Following this auspicious debut, Deadfile released two further equally intriguing albums:- "The City Over the Void" (2014) and "The Oddity of Human Structures" (2019), and it's their third album where Deadfile really comes to life!
2014: Deadfile - The City Over the Void - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nc1Gu1RLuEPN-KrYR6mk9QsTsWuknRZCo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nc1Gu1RLuEPN-KrYR6mk9QsTsWuknRZCo
2019: Deadfile - The Oddity of Human Structures - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQZyQYMAEcsD-x-q19MyCBXzRkCntd08Y" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQZyQYMAEcsD-x-q19MyCBXzRkCntd08Y
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 09:55
Lewian wrote:
"Upbeat" is very subjective. I listen to a lot of post rock but arguably most of it isn't so upbeat (I'm rather stunned that somebody may suggest Swans here ), but then what do I know.
You don't find for instance "She Loves Us" as upbeat in the sense, the OP seems to talk about (not "air scapes")?
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 09:57
David_D wrote:
Lewian wrote:
"Upbeat" is very subjective. I listen to a lot of post rock but arguably most of it isn't so upbeat (I'm rather stunned that somebody may suggest Swans here ), but then what do I know.
You don't find for instance "She Loves Us" as upbeat in the sense, the OP seems to talk about (not "air scapes")?
Just me and my silly whim (or lack of formidable descriptors)
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 10:05
^ Upbeat may not necessarily mean "upbeat" in this context bc post rock is very drawn out on the surface. I would assume most material by the Swans in the last 10 years would not fit the modern Post ethos of how I described it.
As an aside, I never understood why post rock (falling under the Prog umbrella) sounds so much like soundtrack ambience in numbers? Like, would it hurt more bands to rock out a little and experiment?!
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 10:37
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
As an aside, I never understood why post rock (falling under the Prog umbrella) sounds so much like soundtrack ambience in numbers? Like, would it hurt more bands to rock out a little and experiment?!
Chances are they do what they like to do, and you can take it or leave it, but not change it. I'm fine with the post rock approach as it is, and if I feel I want something different, I search for it outside that genre. The understated somewhat minimalist approach renouncing some standard elements that certain listeners want to put their teeth in is pretty much the essence of post rock. By the way, some Tarentel albums are quite experimental (not necessarily the first one, which is just great).
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 10:39
David_D wrote:
Lewian wrote:
"Upbeat" is very subjective. I listen to a lot of post rock but arguably most of it isn't so upbeat (I'm rather stunned that somebody may suggest Swans here ), but then what do I know.
You don't find for instance "She Loves Us" as upbeat in the sense, the OP seems to talk about (not "air scapes")?
Well, I wouldn't call that upbeat, but feel free to continue doing it anyway.
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 10:42
I don't know upbeat post-rock, the genre is often melancholic, moody, atmospheric.
I will create a list of a few bands i find worth checking out if that's ok with you.
I'm not Zappastolethetowels but I'd certainly be happy to see it.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 12:21
Zappastolethetowels wrote:
As an aside, I never understood why post rock (falling under the Prog umbrella) sounds so much like soundtrack ambience in numbers? Like, would it hurt more bands to rock out a little and experiment?!
A lot of Post Rock isn't like you're describing it at all. Like this band and track
...And I think there's plenty of experiments - and even more rocking out to be found. But of course experimenting will eventually experiment you out of any given genre. Just like a Symphonic Prog band who simply love to experiment and do it all the time, will end up not being Symphonic Prog anymore.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: December 19 2024 at 22:10
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: December 20 2024 at 10:56