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Topic: The most archetypal Progressive Rock?
Posted By: David_D
Subject: The most archetypal Progressive Rock?
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 09:58

I reckon that it's most commonly today to consider
Yes
King Crimson
Genesis
Jethro Tull
ELP  and
Pink Floyd
as The Big Six of the classic Progressive Rock.

Now, my question is which of these bands do you find to be the most archetypal of the classic Progressive Rock?

You can vote for all of these bands you want to, and each time a band gets a vote, I'll give it 1 point, and by updates I'll tell the total score at a given point of time, and as voted by whom.

I find the most archetypal
ELP
Yes
Genesis

So the score to begin with is
ELP - 1
Yes - 1
Genesis - 1
Jethro Tull - 0
King Crimson - 0
Pink Floyd - 0

as voted by David_D


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Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 11:13
The Moody Blues oft neglected but really deserve more.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 11:18
Can we only vote for three?


Posted By: Valdez
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 11:35
KC
Yes
genesis

Of these.

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 12:17
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Can we only vote for three?

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

You can vote for all of these bands you want, .........


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 12:22

The present result is:

Yes - 2
Genesis - 2
ELP - 1
King Crimson - 1
Jethro Tull - 0
Pink Floyd - 0

as voted by David_D and Valdez


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 12:35
Originally posted by Valdez Valdez wrote:

The Moody Blues oft neglected but really deserve more.

Discussion is of course very welcomed, but especially of "The Big Six".


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Posted By: felonafan
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 13:01
Yes
King Crimson


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 13:25
I think of ELP as the quintessential Prog band (a sound so associated with Prog fro good or bad), followed by Yes and King Crimson in its own way. And of course Prog-Genesis has been incredibly influential and does deserve mention.   I had not associated Pink Floyd with Prog so much when growing up.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 13:50
Tull - who probably did more diversification in sound than any of the others.
Yes
King Crimson



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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 14:32

Then it says:

Yes - 5
King Crimson - 4
Genesis - 3
ELP - 2
Jethro Tull - 1
Pink Floyd - 0

as voted by David_D, Valdez, felonafan, Logan and The Dark Elf



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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 17:23
ELP
King Crimson
The originators.


Posted By: jamesbaldwin
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 17:31
I think that Yes and Genesis are on the podium.

Pink Floyd came from psychedelia, they were prog only in passing, they are much more than prog.

Jethro tull before Thick As a Brick were mainly folkblues, they too were prog in passing.

Now that leaves EL&P and King Crimson.

Both can aspire to the podium, as importance for prog. EL&P came from Nice, from adapting classical music to rock, and they were very successful. 
King Crimson have never adapted classical music to rock, they come partly from psychedelia, partly from the avant-garde, partly from melodic romantic rock and, from their second album onwards, partly from jazz.

In short, King Crimson are much more experimental than EL&P. And they kick-started Prog with their first album. They went through various musical phases, often changing their sound, whereas EL&P always remained the same. KC are definitely more difficult than El&P. But like Pink Floyd they are admired far beyond prog.

However, both choices seem legitimate to me. 
I choose King Crimson, because in my opinion without them, prog would be lost far more than it is with EL&P.

-King Crimson
- Yes
- Genesis


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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 17:34
Yes
Genesis (PG and SH era only of course)
King Crimson

ELP were too far off on the extreme end. They represent prog at it's most excessive but not most typical imo. I still like them but that's beside the point.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 18:11
So by now:

Yes - 7
King Crimson - 7
Genesis - 5
ELP - 3
Jethro Tull - 1
Pink Floyd - 0

as voted by David_D, Valdez, felonafan, Logan, The Dark Elf, Easy Money, jamesbaldwin and AFlowerKingCrimson



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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 18:13
I say Yes and Genesis.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 18:18
Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

...............
In short, King Crimson are much more experimental than EL&P. And they kick-started Prog with their first album. They went through various musical phases, often changing their sound, whereas EL&P always remained the same. KC are definitely more difficult than El&P. But like Pink Floyd they are admired far beyond prog.

However, both choices seem legitimate to me
.............

Very nice with your thorough reasoning and explanation. One can vote for up to all 6 bands, so you can vote for ELP too, if you want to.



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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: November 23 2024 at 18:36
I few years ago, I was asked by a work colleague what is progressive rock. I decided to answer this question with an example. After a considerable amount of thought about possibilities, I decided that the classic period prog groups were too original sounding for any to be considered definitive, so I eventually chose the retro-prog album Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere. I felt that the relatively unoriginal retro-prog would blend together the distinct styles from the classic period and later to form music that is truly definitive of the core of progressive rock. Also, despite being somewhat unoriginal, Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere is a great album, so that one could decide if progressive rock is for them by listening to Wobbler - From Silence to Somewhere.
 



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