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Topic: Post-Punk Britannia: 1st Album
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Subject: Post-Punk Britannia: 1st Album
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 06:24
Spot the odd one out. Smile

3 stars 1984: The Alarm - Declaration -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_moETLAptN8yWaYZ09IfqC_R7z0QgR0RL4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_moETLAptN8yWaYZ09IfqC_R7z0QgR0RL4
3 stars 1982: Cocteau Twins - Garlands -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvGus1bRAVWYmU_BfFcwIyC172sT3moVw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kvGus1bRAVWYmU_BfFcwIyC172sT3moVw
3 stars 1980: Comsat Angels - Waiting for a Miracle -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvnwHNyDtIEpHOJ_cBXmDDC_CAnuQDz0c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvnwHNyDtIEpHOJ_cBXmDDC_CAnuQDz0c
3 stars 1977: Elvis Costello - My Aim is True -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-mvT43vQGZxdNYrXHpi1mCM5SiWji_J4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-mvT43vQGZxdNYrXHpi1mCM5SiWji_J4
3 stars 1984: The Cult - Dreamtime -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leyCuGTlNqpf79aOZ0NOUWkT7c9C7q7F8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leyCuGTlNqpf79aOZ0NOUWkT7c9C7q7F8
3 stars 1979: The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kb8mwZCZdkS1E0y9rpp8gpwnV6Md6-m90" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kb8mwZCZdkS1E0y9rpp8gpwnV6Md6-m90
3 stars 1980: The Durutti Column - The Return of the Durutti Column -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nB6SpKdhfvMxNfW4jLbtT-OvSOH_s19bE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nB6SpKdhfvMxNfW4jLbtT-OvSOH_s19bE
3 stars 1980: Echo & the Bunnymen - Crocodiles -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkmH4WATdKYn6iLbcSoindzqG8osCIM5U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lkmH4WATdKYn6iLbcSoindzqG8osCIM5U
2 stars 1979: The Fall - Live at the Witch Trials -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nP1CSPNpA6oDSTP-9ETSBoBEMu9_rFyRw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nP1CSPNpA6oDSTP-9ETSBoBEMu9_rFyRw
2 stars 1977: The Jam - In the City -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhEw4hmqBNtHWu0mUEDORpFwsGQrX5XPZ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhEw4hmqBNtHWu0mUEDORpFwsGQrX5XPZ
3 stars 1985: The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nA7yuKbiuqLxZveNj-w0_0DRNIh_TVdak" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nA7yuKbiuqLxZveNj-w0_0DRNIh_TVdak
2 stars 1980: Killing Joke - Killing Joke -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYHGWLn71yHjaQHt-pIiw3I5_ZtarKa-Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYHGWLn71yHjaQHt-pIiw3I5_ZtarKa-Q
3 stars 1978: Magazine - Real Life -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kMB2iaRmE1X9JvQmbJLa9pyUlnpjXEwFM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kMB2iaRmE1X9JvQmbJLa9pyUlnpjXEwFM
3 stars 1986: The Mission - God's Own Medicine -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwdjhRXSTWDHjkhZGx5vWHCS3S2CYYswU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kwdjhRXSTWDHjkhZGx5vWHCS3S2CYYswU
3 stars 1981: Modern English - Mesh & Lace -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lKtv3L1dxyJkGbyLNM6nJ2OZ1-11zm28I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lKtv3L1dxyJkGbyLNM6nJ2OZ1-11zm28I
3 stars 1984: New Model Army - Vengeance -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEyVUHvQAO9ZyFXCuqMWK56f7jQ2xluWU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEyVUHvQAO9ZyFXCuqMWK56f7jQ2xluWU
3 stars 1981: New Order - Movement -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngEtMc_bwAoqIxvdgisujRZAD5MRHPO68" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngEtMc_bwAoqIxvdgisujRZAD5MRHPO68
2 stars 1978: The Police - Outlandos d'Amour -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC4vwAZM8FzHZ4rTxdaVnryJtOMAv-xY4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lC4vwAZM8FzHZ4rTxdaVnryJtOMAv-xY4
3 stars 1980: The Psychedelic Furs - The Psychedelic Furs -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_9gWeiShHFFluh4DxB5LU3qgntxRitHa" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_9gWeiShHFFluh4DxB5LU3qgntxRitHa
3 stars 1979: Simple Minds  Life in a Day -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nfiJhVX0HcRLrvh28OvF1IRDj_KBQPdNQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nfiJhVX0HcRLrvh28OvF1IRDj_KBQPdNQ
2 stars 1978: Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Scream -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYYJ-JhyRn2DMNE5NrCG9Reyw4Uv3sCRY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kYYJ-JhyRn2DMNE5NrCG9Reyw4Uv3sCRY
4 stars 1984: The Smiths - The Smiths -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0YZAFThrzB6J8Lbjl6zQN8ADFTNEZRXY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0YZAFThrzB6J8Lbjl6zQN8ADFTNEZRXY
3 stars 1978: Squeeze - Squeeze -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kBXRbzqDwje_S6b69o1CfPaI9dE6DZ3kM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kBXRbzqDwje_S6b69o1CfPaI9dE6DZ3kM
4 stars 1980: U2 - Boy -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8Z9dcVLFRTPDFJTQJ26s_zGiEdwfJ-Mc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8Z9dcVLFRTPDFJTQJ26s_zGiEdwfJ-Mc
2 stars 1980: XTC - White Music -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mQUYB-7n5gJTNue_zFDxDScY7_vtj8ngM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mQUYB-7n5gJTNue_zFDxDScY7_vtj8ngM



Replies:
Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 06:34
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Magazine - Real Life
New Order - Movement
The Psychedelic Furs - The Psychedelic Furs




Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 06:45
Voted Echo and the Bunnymen
and
U2/The Cure/Duritti Column/Killing Joke/Magazine/Police/Simple Minds/XTC   I still have some of them


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 06:56
Apologies to fans of the ten spiky-haired acts I wasn't able to Squeeze into the poll. Embarrassed

Adam & the Ants
Bauhaus
Gang of Four
Joy Division
Orange Juice
The Proclaimers
Sisters of Mercy
Teardrop Explodes
Toyah
Wire


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 07:33
New Model Army - Vengeance 


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 09:32
The Cult

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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 09:53
Good poll Paul. I know most of these, but I'm a bit torn between the excellent Killing Joke album and The Cult's Dreamtime; so on the flip of a coin my vote goes to The Cult.

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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 09:55
Costello
XTC
The Police


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 10:46
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Apologies to fans of the ten spiky-haired acts I wasn't able to Squeeze into the poll. Embarrassed

Adam & the Ants
Bauhaus
Gang of Four
Joy Division
Orange Juice
The Proclaimers
Sisters of Mercy
Teardrop Explodes
Toyah
Wire


I love Joy Division, Wire, and Bauhaus, and like more there, but I also really like Cocteau Twin's Garlands and Siouxsie & the Banshees' The Scream (at least I got to cover those in my little series). Going with The Scream. Me voting for a two starred album by you Paul, will wonders never cease.   

By the way, not that it matters, but I would have voted for Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division had it been included.

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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 11:27
My faves here are: Magazine, Cocteau twins, Durutti column, Killing Joke, Souxsie and the banshees and Simple minds. Its a tight squeeze between Magazine and Killing Joke... but its gotta be 'Real life' by Magazine.

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 11:36
Sorry Paul, there's literally NOTHING in this poll that I even remotely enjoy (and believe me, I've endured quite a lot of it back in the day)... it's all my sister's music!

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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 11:43
^ I'm thinking your sister and I should maybe consider hooking up in the future depending upon how things go. My wife just did go to California again, and will be gone for a week; just saying. ;) Kidding, I'm utterly loyal to her and she is to me as much as one could be. That said, women do love a mustachioed man in a bright red diaper.

Growing up in the punk-town of Vancouver, punky music is practically in my DNA (kind of an epigenetics thing).

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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 11:48
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I'm thinking your sister and I should maybe consider hooking up in the future depending upon how things go. My wife just did go to California again, and will be gone for a week; just saying. ;) Kidding, I'm utterly loyal to her and she is to me as much as one could be.

Growing up in the punk-town of Vancouver, punky music is practically in my DNA.

I haven't spoken to her about this yet (she's literally just flown out to NZ for 3 weeks to see my other sister) but I'm quite sure she's been wetting herself in anticipation of the first 'The Cure' album in 16 years... her fave band growing up....

the list Paul has put up was much of the stuff that was being played in our 6th form common room back in the mid 80's.... at the time, I was all Rush/Yes/Genesis/Purple/Sabbath & Zep...


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 11:57
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ I'm thinking your sister and I should maybe consider hooking up in the future depending upon how things go. My wife just did go to California again, and will be gone for a week; just saying. ;) Kidding, I'm utterly loyal to her and she is to me as much as one could be.

Growing up in the punk-town of Vancouver, punky music is practically in my DNA.


I haven't spoken to her about this yet (she's literally just flown out to NZ for 3 weeks to see my other sister) but I'm quite sure she's been wetting herself in anticipation of the first 'The Cure' album in 16 years... her fave band growing up....

the list Paul has put up was much of the stuff that was being played in our 6th form common room back in the mid 80's.... at the time, I was all Rush/Yes/Genesis/Purple/Sabbath & Zep...


My eldest (21 now) saw The Cure some time back with the partner, who is a huge fan of The Cure and this kind of music. I'm looking forward to hearing that new album too. I have come to really love things like Siouxsie and The Banshees and Joy Division quite recently as well as a lot more post-punk. I've always been attracted to the quirkier side of things being a very quirky individual. Not outwardly, always looked very conservative -- I actually don't follow the Zardoz fashion sense -- but internally.

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:07
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Sorry Paul, there's literally NOTHING in this poll that I even remotely enjoy (and believe me, I've endured quite a lot of it back in the day)... it's all my sister's music!

Not to worry. There's another Arena Rock poll coming up tomorrow. Maybe you'll find something you like there instead. Smile 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:14
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Apologies to fans of the ten spiky-haired acts I wasn't able to Squeeze into the poll. Embarrassed

Adam & the Ants
Bauhaus
Gang of Four
Joy Division
Orange Juice
The Proclaimers
Sisters of Mercy
Teardrop Explodes
Toyah
Wire


I love Joy Division, Wire, and Bauhaus, and like more there, but I also really like Cocteau Twin's Garlands and Siouxsie & the Banshees' The Scream (at least I got to cover those in my little series). Going with The Scream. Me voting for a two starred album by you Paul, will wonders never cease.   

By the way, not that it matters, but I would have voted for Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division had it been included.
Yes, I know from past experience that whenever I give an album two stars, that'll be the album you're most  likely to vote for, although I knew from previous comments that you're a fan of both Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cocteau Twins.  Smile


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:14
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Sorry Paul, there's literally NOTHING in this poll that I even remotely enjoy (and believe me, I've endured quite a lot of it back in the day)... it's all my sister's music!

Not to worry. There's another Arena Rock poll coming up tomorrow. Maybe you'll find something you like there instead. Smile 

Funny thing about that thread is there's nothing much in there that I've listened to in the past 30 years either! But at least I grew up with a bit of Journey, Toto & Styx in my collection! 


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:16
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Not to worry. There's another Arena Rock poll coming up tomorrow. Maybe you'll find something you like there instead. Smile 

having looked at your own ratings, it does seem you're less than enthusiastic about the Post-Punk world yourself?


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:22
Jesus & The Mary Chain

Joy Division
Wire
Bauhaus

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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:24
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Not to worry. There's another Arena Rock poll coming up tomorrow. Maybe you'll find something you like there instead. Smile 

having looked at your own ratings, it does seem you're less than enthusiastic about the Post-Punk world yourself?
I'm a big fan of U2 so I included them in the poll even though they're not British, but you're right, other than U2, I'm not overly-enthusiastic about Post-Punk. I bought an album by The Cure recently, but only because it was reduced to 10p in a charity shop bargain bin. I also somehow ended up with six albums by The Smiths, even though they've only made four albums. Tongue


Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:55
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:


the list Paul has put up was much of the stuff that was being played in our 6th form common room back in the mid 80's.... at the time, I was all Rush/Yes/Genesis/Purple/Sabbath & Zep...

Ha! me too.. but i had a lot of 'art school' student friends and (i think i was their 'non-college' 'Common people' type friendWinkLOL) eventually some appreciation of that 'gothy' rock rubbed off on me, and particularly of late ive revisited quite a bit and found i really enjoy some of it! But yeah, i was the unfashionable (literally, i had no sense of fashion!) guy who went on about Rush and Hawkwind and Early Genesis... but get 'em a bit drunk and they'd admit they had a soft spot for ELP!


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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 13:46
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

 eventually some appreciation of that 'gothy' rock rubbed off on me, and particularly of late ive revisited quite a bit and found i really enjoy some of it! 

Well, credit to you John for being so flexible and keeping an open mind... I'm afraid I seem to lack the ability to go back over old musical ground and positively reappraise musical styles that did little for me, first time around? I must admit, there are artists I used to enjoy but were more on the fringe of my repertoire but have become more central as the years have gone by... Mike Oldfield, Vangelis & Jean Michel Jarre would all be examples of this?


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 13:47
1. U2 - Boy
2. The Smiths - The Smiths



Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: November 04 2024 at 02:48
This will be a great set of polls. Some great albums in that list and very difficult to choose! Smile


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 04 2024 at 03:45
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

This will be a great set of polls. Some great albums in that list and very difficult to choose! Smile

I may end up voting for U2 in every poll, apart from when we reach their "Pop" album. Tongue


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 04 2024 at 03:53
Only early U2 can be classified as post-punk. By 1983, they quit that sound. 

 
Same with Simple Minds, which i would not consider post-punk, but on their early work (it was so much more), maybe, but not afterwards anymore. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 04 2024 at 03:57
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Only early U2 can be classified as post-punk. By 1983, they quit that sound. 

That's certainly true, but there's no way I'm dropping U2 from the poll later. Big smile

The same goes for Simple Minds. Smile

U2 and Simple Minds just happen to be my two favourite bands in the poll. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 08 2024 at 14:40
There's no conclusive winner for this first Post-Punk poll, but - with the exception of their unpopular "Pop" album - here's one reason why I Will Follow U2 through to the last poll in the series.



Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: November 11 2024 at 13:38
U2's Boy is the only non-prog album in my All Time Top 25!

They would hate me for saying this, but the epic "An Cat Dubh/Into the Heart" is the greatest thing they've ever done.


Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: November 22 2024 at 11:14
The Comsat Angels win my vote also here, with Killing Joke, Siouxsie, and the Durutti Column following.



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