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Topic: Chronological Comparisons of bands
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Chronological Comparisons of bands
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 11:08
Comparing the albums of Genesis, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes by order of release.
Feel free to cover as many of these, and more, if you like, and you need not do all five albums from each. I plan to do a second edition with some other big names like VdGG and GG. I chose 11 for my cgoices to go up to The Wall specifically. Pink Floyd and King Crimson are my favourites generally of these, but of course it also depends on which specific releases we are comparing. In some cases choosing the order was a toss-up. Some years I love all, others only one or two.
Here are the first 12 albums per band in chronological order for reference:
Genesis:
From Genesis to Revelation Trespass Nursery Cryme Foxtrot Selling England by the Pound The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway A Trick of the Tail Wind & Wuthering ...And Then There Were Three... Duke Abacab Genesis (aka Shapes)
Jethro Tull:
This Was Stand Up Benefit Aqualung Thick as a Brick A Passion Play War Child Minstrel in the Gallery Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! Songs From the Wood Heavy Horses Stormwatch
King Crimson:
In the Court of the Crimson King In the Wake of Poseidon Lizard Islands Larks' Tongues in Aspic Starless and Bible Black Red Discipline Beat Three of a Perfect Pair THRAK The ConstruKction of Light
Pink Floyd:
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn A Saucerful of Secrets More Ummagumma Atom Heart Mother Meddle Obscured by Clouds The Dark Side of the Moon Wish You Were Here Animals The Wall The Final Cut
Yes:
Yes Time and a Word The Yes Album Fragile Close to the Edge Tales From Topographic Oceans Relayer Going for the One Tormato Drama 90125 Big Generator
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Here are my choices in favourite (1st) to least favourite potition.
Debuts
1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 3. This Was 4. Yes 5. From Genesis to Revelation
Seconds
1. A Saucerful of Secrets 2. In the Wake of Poseidon 3. Trespass 4. Stand Up 5. Time and a Word
Thirds
1. Lizard 2. Benefit 3. More 4. The Yes Album 5. Nursery Cryme
Fourths
1. Islands 2. Ummagumma 3. Aqualung 4. Fragile 5. Foxtrot
Fifths
1. Atom Heart Mother 2. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 3. Selling England by the Pound 4. Thick as a Brick 5. Close to the Edge
Sixths
1. Meddle 2. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 3. Starless and Bible Black 4. A Passion Play 5. Tales From Topographic Oceans Sevenths
1. Red 2. Relayer 3. Obscured by Clouds 4. A Trick of the Tail 5. War Child
Eighths
1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. Wind & Wuthering 3. Minstrel in the Gallery 4. Discipline 5. Going for the One
Ninths
1. Wish You Were Here 2. Beat 3. ...And Then There Were Three... 4. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! 5. Tormato
Tenths
1. Animals 2. Songs From the Wood 3. Three of a Perfect Pair 4. Duke 5. Drama
Elevenths
1. The Wall 2. Heavy Horses 3. THRAK 4. Abacab 5. 90125
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Hope to see some other list covering as many of these albums as you know and like. :)
EDIT: I opted to change the title to make it for any lists, which I should have done to begin with. My original choice of doing 11 by Genesis, JT, KC, PF, Yes could have gone better. No sleight to nay other band (say with ELP I know and like very little by the band and so it's my ignorance). Mind you, if I were just focusing on my faves, then probably only KC and Pink Floyd would have been listed. And I have rarely listened to Pink Floyd in over 25 years. Of big names, I'd rather do VdGG, Magma and a host of others than Genesis and Yes based on my interests. I seriously love music, but I treat these as more a bit of fun.
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Posted By: Mirakaze
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 13:23
Oh this is a fun idea!
DEBUTS: 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 3. From Genesis to Revelation 4. Yes 5. This Was SECONDS: 1. In the Wake of Poseidon 2. A Saucerful of Secrets 3. Trespass 4. Time and a Word 5. Stand Up THIRDS: 1. Nursery Cryme 2. Lizard 3. The Yes Album 4. More 5. Benefit FOURTHS: 1. Foxtrot 2. Fragile 3. Ummagumma 4. Islands 5. Aqualung FIFTHS: 1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Close to the Edge 3. Thick as a Brick 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Atom Heart Mother SIXTHS: 1. Starless and Bible Black 2. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 3. Tales From Topographic Oceans 4. Meddle 5. A Passion Play SEVENTHS: 1. A Trick of the Tail 2. Relayer 3. Red 4. War Child 5. Obscured by Clouds EIGHTHS: 1. Wind & Wuthering 2. Discipline 3. The Dark Side of the Moon 4. Going for the One 5. Minstrel in the Gallery NINTHS: 1. ...And Then There Were Three... 2. Wish You Were Here 3. Beat 4. Tormato 5. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! TENTHS: 1. Duke 2. Three of a Perfect Pair 3. Animals 4. Songs From the Wood 5. Drama ELEVENTHS: 1. Abacab 2. Thrak 3. 90125 4. The Wall 5. Heavy Horses TWELFTHS: 1. Genesis 2. The ConstruKction Of Light 3. The Final Cut 4. Stormwatch 5. Big Generator THIRTEENTHS: 1. Invisible Touch 2. The Power To Believe 3. A Momentary Lapse Of Reason 4. A 5. Union
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 13:56
Thanks, Mira. You're formatting looks so much better and more economical than mine, by the way. And while my list only went to 11, yours goes two higher! Nigel Tufnel approves.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 14:19
I tried, but gave up. In just about every year, something felt wrong no matter what.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 15:58
Debuts 1. In the Court of the Crimson King
2. This Was
3. Yes, From Genesis to Revelation, Gates of Dawn
Seconds
1. Stand Up 2. Trespass 3. A Saucerful of Secrets, In the Wake of Poseidon, Time and a Word
Thirds 1. Lizard
2. The Yes Album, Nursery Cryme 3. More 4. Benefit
Fourths 1. Aqualung 2. Fragile, Foxtrot 3. Islands
4. Ummagumma Fifths 1. Atom Heart Mother 1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 1. Selling England by the Pound 1. Thick as a Brick 1. Close to the Edge
Sixths: 1. Meddle 2. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 3. Starless and Bible Black 4. A Passion Play 5. Tales From Topographic Oceans Sevenths: 1. A Trick of the Tail 2. Red, Relayer 3. Obscured by Clouds
5. War Child
Eighths; 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. Wind & Wuthering 3. Minstrel in the Gallery 4. Discipline 5. Going for the One
Ninths:
1. Wish You Were Here
3. ...And Then There Were Three... 4. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! 5. Tormato
6. Beat
Tenths:
1. Animals 2. Songs From the Wood
4. Duke 5. Drama
6. Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 16:00
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I tried, but gave up. In just about every year, something felt wrong no matter what. |
I don’t consider my list to be like some definitive declaration of my preferences, and it is quite arbitrary in various places. It may give a general idea of my preferences when it comes to some of the biggest names in PA, and is an exercise undertaken in the spirit of fun.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 01 2024 at 23:36
I could have ignored the thread I suppose and it may well that my post will be considered trolling. I'm not having a good week though and now a bit pissed that ELP are no longer considered important enough to be incuded in a discussion like this. They are still very much a 'big six' band.
I think it is possible to include them on the basis that Pictures at An Exhibition and Emerson,Lake and Powell are in the running order. That still only makes 11 albums so maybe Three To The Power Of Three could be a twelth as 2 of them were in that band. So it could be 1. Emerson, Lake and Palmer 2. Tarkus 3. Pictures At An Exhibition 4. Trilogy 5. Brain Salad Surgery 6. Works Volume One 7. Works Volume Two 8. Love Beach 9. Emerson,Lake and Powell 10. 3 To The Power Of 3 11. Black Moon 12. In The Hot Seat
on that basis
Debuts In The Court Of The Crimson King Emerson,Lake and Palmer Yes
Seconds Stand Up Trespass Tarkus
Thirds Nursery Cryme Benefit Trilogy
Fourths Foxtrot Aqualung Fragile
Fifths Brain Salad Surgery Close To The Edge Thick As A Brick
Sixths Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Meddle A Passion PLay
Sevenths Red A Trick Of The Tail Relayer
Eights Dark Side Of The Moon Minstrel In The Gallery Going For The One
Ninths Wish You Were Here And Then There Were Three Tormato
Tenths Animals Drama Duke
Elevenths The Wall Abacab Black Moon
Twelths Stormwatch The Final Cut Shapes
It is ironic that just maybe I could be exiting PA after 20 years when I've just handed in my notice of my job of 30+ years
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 00:11
Logan wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I tried, but gave up. In just about every year, something felt wrong no matter what. |
I don’t consider my list to be like some definitive declaration of my preferences, and it is quite arbitrary in various places. It may give a general idea of my preferences when it comes to some of the biggest names in PA, and is an exercise undertaken in the spirit of fun. | Oh, sure. Although it's nothing serious or definitive I still couldn't finish it. I just sat there changing my mind over and over, moving some of these titles a notch up and down.
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Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 01:27
richardh wrote:
I could have ignored the thread I suppose and it may well that my post will be considered trolling. I'm not having a good week though and now a bit pissed that ELP are no longer considered important enough to be incuded in a discussion like this. They are still very much a 'big six' band.
I think it is possible to include them on the basis that Pictures at An Exhibition and Emerson,Lake and Powell are in the running order. That still only makes 11 albums so maybe Three To The Power Of Three could be a twelth as 2 of them were in that band. So it could be 1. Emerson, Lake and Palmer 2. Tarkus 3. Pictures At An Exhibition 4. Trilogy 5. Brain Salad Surgery 6. Works Volume One 7. Works Volume Two 8. Love Beach 9. Emerson,Lake and Powell 10. 3 To The Power Of 3 11. Black Moon 12. In The Hot Seat
on that basis
Debuts In The Court Of The Crimson King Emerson,Lake and Palmer Yes
Seconds Stand Up Trespass Tarkus
Thirds Nursery Cryme Benefit Trilogy
Fourths Foxtrot Aqualung Fragile
Fifths Brain Salad Surgery Close To The Edge Thick As A Brick
Sixths Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Meddle A Passion PLay
Sevenths Red A Trick Of The Tail Relayer
Eights Dark Side Of The Moon Minstrel In The Gallery Going For The One
Ninths Wish You Were Here And Then There Were Three Tormato
Tenths Animals Drama Duke
Elevenths The Wall Abacab Black Moon
Twelths Stormwatch The Final Cut Shapes
It is ironic that just maybe I could be exiting PA after 20 years when I've just handed in my notice of my job of 30+ years
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Richard,
If ELP is included, their debut album and 2nd album, Tarkus would take the top spot in my list with the other bands included in this poll. I will come back to respond, but starting with the Yes Album, Yes is going to run up a number of top rankings per release.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 03:37
This should be easy - in theory - even with ELP included.
FIRSTS 1. King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King 2. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer 3. YES - Yes 4. Genesis - From Genesis to Revelation 5. Jethro Tull - This Was 6. Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn SECONDS 1. Genesis - Trespass 2. Jethro Tull - Stand Up 3. Pink Floyd - A Saucerful of Secrets 4. YES - Time and a Word 5. King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon 6. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus THIRDS 1. Genesis - Nursery Cryme 2. YES - The Yes Album 3. Pink Floyd - More 4. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Pictures at an Exhibition 5. Jethro Tull - Benefit 6. King Crimson - Lizard FOURTHS 1. Genesis - Foxtrot 2. YES - Fragile 3. Jethro Tull - Aqualung 4. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Trilogy 5. Pink Floyd - Ummagumma 6. King Crimson - Islands FIFTHS 1. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound 2. YES - Close to the Edge 3. Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother 4. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick 5. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery 6. King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic SIXTHS 1. YES - Tales from Topographic Oceans 2. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Works Volume 1 3. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4. Pink Floyd - Meddle 5. Jethro Tull - A Passion Play 6. King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black SEVENTHS 1. Genesis - A Trick of the Tail 2. Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds 3. YES - Relayer 4. Jethro Tull - War Child 5. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Works Volume 2 6. King Crimson - Red EIGHTHS 1. Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon 2. YES - Going for the One 3. Genesis - Wind & Wuthering 4. Jethro Tull - Minstrel in the Gallery 5. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Love Beach 6. King Crimson - Discipline NINTHS 1. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here 2. Emerson, Lake & Powell - Emerson, Lake & Powell 3. Genesis - And Then There Were Three 4. YES - Tormato 5. Jethro Tull - Too Old to Rock & Roll 6. King Crimson - Beat TENTHS 1. YES - Drama 2. Pink Floyd - Animals 3. Jethro Tull - Songs from the Wood 4. Genesis - Duke 5. 3 (Emerson, Berry & Palmer) - The Power of Three 6. King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair ELEVENSES 1. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Black Moon 2. Pink Floyd - The Wall 3. YES - 90125 4. Jethro Tull - Heavy Horses 5. Genesis - Abacab 6. King Crimson - THRAK TWELVES 1. Jethro Tull - Stormwatch 2. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut 3. YES - Big Generator 4. Genesis - Genesis 5. Emerson, Lake & Palmer - In the Hot Seat 6. King Crimson - The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 04:47
Hi, and sorry, Richard. No offence or sleight was intended in omitting ELP. It wasn't because I didn't consider them important enough, and I do consider it to be one of the most seminal and quintessential bands in Prog, but it's more about my ignorance as after the first five albums my knowledge becomes very spotty. And frankly, beyond the first five albums I didn't think that many others would be that interested. Personally, I would only want to consider the Emerson, Lake & Palmer albums. That is ELP to me.
I thought covering five of the big names with long careers would be good to start and more would be onerous for this exercise. This was not intended to be about what's most important (I did aim to cover five big names with many albums) and certainly not about what's most important to me. I would have loved to include Tangerine Dream, Van der Graaf Generator, Magma etc.
I think what I should have said in the OP is feel free to add any other classic bands to the mix. By the way, I also considered adding Rush, but then that wasn't there at Prog's beginning. Please don't read too much into it from me, as I usually make less than satisfying topics (I am often not pleased with how they turn out), and I have received many complaints due to omissions over the years. I expect others could do much better. Maybe I should just do topics that focus on my particular favourites, but I do have this desire to reach out to more diverse tastes.
I am sorry that time's have been so tough for you, you handed in your notice after so many years and are now considering leaving PA. I've felt like you've been a good forum friend to me here, someone I have enjoyed having many discussions with over the years, and have really appreciated your presence. I wish you well. And if you ever want to vent about life or talk about problems, my PM box is open. Take care of yourself and all the best. If this forum is an added stress, it does make sense to at least take a break from it. I've needed to before, and yesterday was a pretty horrible day for me too due to some family business. I like to unwind and refocus here, but this forum definitely can be a significant added source of stress, especially when dealing with complaints and dissatisfaction.
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By the way, I really like ELP's debut. And Trilogy was one of the the first Prog albums I heard as a child and is an album I was in love with when I returned to Prog in a big way in the early 2000s. It's not a band I listen to much now, but then I can say that of Genesis, Yes and Jethro Tull (unlike, say, VdGG, Tangerine Dream, Magma, KC, Pink Floyd, a later one like Art Zoyd, and many others).
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 06:47
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Logan wrote:
Saperlipopette! wrote:
I tried, but gave up. In just about every year, something felt wrong no matter what. |
I don’t consider my list to be like some definitive declaration of my preferences, and it is quite arbitrary in various places. It may give a general idea of my preferences when it comes to some of the biggest names in PA, and is an exercise undertaken in the spirit of fun. | Oh, sure. Although it's nothing serious or definitive I still couldn't finish it. I just sat there changing my mind over and over, moving some of these titles a notch up and down. |
I totally get you actually, and I actually do feel the same. And I can be something of a perfectionist. I made list below of some other bands and choosing one over others is often so arbitrary. Anyway....
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I do like to be flexible, so if people, like Richard, want to add other bands or do other lists, feel free. This is meant to be a fairly fun exercise.
I'll do a few of my favourite classic bands: Can, Gentle Giant, Magma, Soft Machine, Tangerine Dream, Van der Graaf Generator. Even though the orders could be very significantly changed, this is what I did right now.
Debuts: 1. Magma [Kobaïa] (Magma) 2. Monster Movie (Can) 3. Gentle Giant (Gentle Giant) 4. The Soft Machine (The Soft Machine) 5. Electronic Meditation (Tangerine Dream) 6. The Aerosol Grey Machine (Van der Graaf Generator) Seconds: 1. Tago Mago (Can) 2. The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (Van der Graaf Generator) 3. 1001° centigrades (Magma) 4. Acquiring the Taste (Gentle Giant) 5. Volume Two (Soft Machine) 6. Alpha Centauri (Tangerine Dream) Thirds: 1. Third (Soft Machine) 2. Ege Bamyası (Can) 3. Zeit (Tangerine Dream) 4. Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh (Magma) 5. H to He Who Am the Only One (Van der Graaf Generator) 6. Three Friends (Gentle Giant) Fourths: 1. Pawn Hearts (Van der Graaf Generator) 2. Soundtracks (Can) 3. Atem (Tangerine Dream) 4. Fourth (Soft Machine) 5. Ẁurdah Ïtah (Magma) 6. Octopus (Gentle Giant) Fifths: 1. Phaedra (Tangerine Dream) 2. Future Days (Can) 3. Köhntarkösz (Magma) 4. Godbluff (Van der Graaf Generator) 5. In a Glass House (Gentle Giant) 6. Fifth (Soft Machine)
Six is enough for me for now. And often those positions could be shared.
By the way, if people think I'm doing a poor job with topics, and I know I do, feel free to make suggestions for improvement, and make better thought out topics yourself. Leaving out your favourites, ones you think important, or should be there is not meant as any sleight. Often offence comes from some misunderstanding of intent; the wrong assumptions. It's only rock & roll but I like it. I would hope more people would understand how I roll by now.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 11:58
DEBUTS: 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 3. This Was SECONDS: 1. Trespass 2. A Saucerful of Secrets 3. In the Wake of Poseidon 4. Stand Up THIRDS: 1. Lizard 2. Nursery Cryme 3. Benefit 4. More 5. The Yes Album FOURTHS: 1. Ummagumma 2. Foxtrot 3. Aqualung 4. Fragile 5. Islands FIFTHS: 1. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 2. Thick as a Brick 3. Close to the Edge 4. Atom Heart Mother 5. Selling England by the Pound SIXTHS: 1. Starless and Bible Black 2. Meddle 3. Tales From Topographic Oceans 4. A Passion Play 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway SEVENTHS: 1. Red 2. Relayer 3. Obscured by Clouds 4. A Trick of the Tail 5. War Child EIGHTHS: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. Discipline 3. Minstrel in the Gallery 4. Going for the One 5. Wind & Wuthering NINTHS: 1. Wish You Were Here 2. Beat 3. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! TENTHS: 1. Animals 2. Songs From the Wood 3. Three of a Perfect Pair 4. Drama ELEVENTHS: 1. Heavy Horses 2. Thrak 3. The Wall 4. Abacab 5. 90125 TWELFTHS: 1. The ConstruKction Of Light 2. The Final Cut 3. Genesis THIRTEENTHS: 1. The Power To Believe 2. A Momentary Lapse Of Reason
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 12:01
Genesis, JT, KC, PF, Yes
debuts Yes KC JT Pink Floyd Genesis
seconds Stand Up Time and a Word A Saucerful of Secrets Trespass In the Wake of Poseidon
thirds More The Yes Album Nursery Cryme
Lizard Benefit
fourths Foxtrot Fragile Aqualung Islands Ummagumma
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 14:43
DEBUTS: 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
SECONDS: 3. In the Wake of Poseidon 2. A Saucerful of Secrets 1. Trespass
THIRDS: 1. Nursery Cryme 5. Lizard 3. The Yes Album 3. More 4. Benefit FOURTHS: 1. Foxtrot 2. Fragile 4. Ummagumma 5. Islands 3. Aqualung FIFTHS: 1. Selling England by the Pound 2. Close to the Edge 4. Thick as a Brick 3. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Atom Heart Mother SIXTHS: 3. Starless and Bible Black 1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 2. Tales From Topographic Oceans 4. Meddle 5. A Passion Play SEVENTHS: 3 A Trick of the Tail 2. Relayer 1. Red 4. War Child
EIGHTHS: 1. Wind & Wuthering 2. The Dark Side of the Moon 3. Going for the One 4. Minstrel in the Gallery
NINTHS:
1. Wish You Were Here 2. Tormato
TENTHS: 3. Duke 4. Three of a Perfect Pair 2. Animals 1. Songs From the Wood
ELEVENTHS:
3. Duke 2. The Wall 1. Heavy Horses TWELFTHS: 1. Stormwatch 2. The ConstruKction Of Light
THIRTEENTHS:
1. A Momentary Lapse Of Reason 2. A
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 14:44
3rd, 4th, and 5th were hard to rank
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 14:55
I have to say that this is not what I find to be the most meaningful, but okay, I don't have much better to do tonight, so I'll meet the OP as far as I can manage / find it good to do. That is to mention all my fond-ofs in more or less chronological order, and I surely prefer to include ELP.
Also, it is a bit fun and challenging afterall, so here it goes:
Debuts: The Piper, ItCotCK, ELP
Seconds: A Saucerful, Trespass, Tarkus
Thirds: Benefit, The Yes Album, Nursery Cryme, Trilogy
Fourths: Aqualung, Fragile, Foxtrot, Brain Salad
Fifths: Lark's Tongues, SEbtP, TaaB, CttE
Sixths: Meddle, A Passion Play, The Lamb
Sevenths: Red
Eighths: TDSotM
Nineths: WYWHere
Tenths: Animals
Elevenths: The Wall
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 15:58
FIRSTS: 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 3. Yes 4. This Was 5. From Genesis to Revelation SECONDS: 1. A Saucerful of Secrets 2. Trespass 3. Time and a Word 4. In the Wake of Poseidon 5. Stand Up THIRDS: 1. Nursery Cryme 2. The Yes Album 3. Lizard 4. More 5. Benefit FOURTHS: 1. Ummagumma 2. Foxtrot 3. Fragile 4. Islands 5. Aqualung FIFTHS: 1. Thick as a Brick 2. Close to the Edge 3. Selling England by the Pound 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Atom Heart Mother SIXTHS: 1. Starless and Bible Black 2. Meddle 3. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 4. A Passion Play 5. Tales From Topographic Oceans SEVENTHS: 1. Relayer 2. Red 3. A Trick of the Tail 4. Obscured by Clouds 5. War Child EIGHTHS: 1. Wind & Wuthering 2. Discipline 3. Minstrel in the Gallery 4. The Dark Side of the Moon 5. Going for the One NINTHS: 1. Wish You Were Here 2. And Then There Were Three 3. Tormato 4. Beat 5. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll, Too Young to Die TENTHS: 1. Animals 2. Drama 3. Duke 4. Three of a Perfect Pair 5. Songs From the Wood ELEVENTHS: 1. Abacab 2. THRAK 3. 90125 4. The Wall 5. Heavy Horses TWELFTHS: 1. The ConstruKction of Light 2. Genesis 3. The Final Cut 4. Stormwatch 5. Big Generator THIRTEENTHS: 1. The Power to Believe 2. A 3. A Momentary Lapse of Reason 4. Invisible Touch 5. Union
Now, that's a salad. Bring me the hassocks!!
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 16:03
I haven't heard all these albums. These are my favorite of those listed.
A Trick of the Tail Thick as a Brick Discipline Animals The Yes Album
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 16:48
Fifths brutally difficult
Debuts: 1. Monster Movie (Can) 2. Magma [Kobaïa] (Magma) 3. Gentle Giant (Gentle Giant) 4. The Soft Machine (The Soft Machine) Seconds: 1. Tago Mago (Can) 2. The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other (Van der Graaf Generator) 3. Volume Two (Soft Machine) 4. Acquiring the Taste (Gentle Giant) Thirds: 1. Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh (Magma) 2. Ege Bamyası (Can) 3. H to He Who Am the Only One (Van der Graaf Generator) 4. Third (Soft Machine) 5. Zeit (Tangerine Dream) 6. Three Friends (Gentle Giant) Fourths: 1. Pawn Hearts (Van der Graaf Generator) 2. Octopus (Gentle Giant) 3. Soundtracks (Can) 4. Fourth (Soft Machine) Fifths: 1. Godbluff (Van der Graaf Generator) 2. Köhntarkösz (Magma) 3. Phaedra (Tangerine Dream) 4. Future Days (Can) 5. In a Glass House (Gentle Giant) 6. Fifth (Soft Machine)
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 02 2024 at 17:29
Debuts 1. In the Court of the Crimson King 2. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn 3. This Was 4. Yes 5. From Genesis to Revelation
Seconds 1. Stand Up 2. In the Wake of Poseidon 3. Trespass 4. A Saucerful of Secrets 5. Time and a Word
Thirds 1. The Yes Album 2. Benefit 3. Lizard 4. Nursery Cryme 5. More
Fourths 1. Aqualung 2. Foxtrot 3. Fragile 4. Islands 5. Ummagumma
Fifths 1. Close to the Edge 2. Thick as a Brick 3. Selling England by the Pound 4. Larks' Tongues in Aspic 5. Atom Heart Mother
Sixths 1. Meddle 2. Starless and Bible Black 3. A Passion Play 4. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 5. Tales From Topographic Oceans
Sevenths 1. A Trick of the Tail 2. Red 3. War Child 4. Relayer 5. Obscured by Clouds
Eighths 1. The Dark Side of the Moon 2. Minstrel in the Gallery 3. Going for the One 4. Wind & Wuthering 5. Discipline
Ninths 1. Wish You Were Here 2. ...And Then There Were Three... 3. Beat 4. Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die! 5. Tormato
Tenths 1. Songs From the Wood 2. Animals 3. Duke 4. Three of a Perfect Pair 5. Drama
Elevenths 1. The Wall 2. Heavy Horses 3. THRAK 4. Abacab 5. 90125
Twelfths 1. Jethro Tull - Stormwatch 2. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut 3. YES - Big Generator 4. Genesis - Genesis 5. King Crimson - The ConstruKction of Light
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 01:18
Fifths Selling England by the Pound Close to the Edge Atom Heart Mother Thick as a Brick Larks' Tongues in Aspic
Sixths Meddle The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Tales From Topographic Oceans A Passion Play Starless and Bible Black
Sevenths A Trick of the Tail Red Obscured by Clouds Relayer War Child
Eighths The Dark Side of the Moon Wind & Wuthering Minstrel in the Gallery Going for the One Discipline
Ninths Wish You Were Here ...And Then There Were Three... Beat Tormato Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll: Too Young to Die!
Tenths Animals Drama Duke Songs From the Wood Three of a Perfect Pair
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 02:56
6 X 6 Classic Prog Favourites:- Barclay James Harvest; Camel; Caravan; The Moody Blues; Procol Harum; & Renaissance (studio albums only)
FIRSTS 1. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed 2. Procol Harum - Procol Harum 3. Renaissance - Renaissance 4. Camel - Camel 5. Caravan - Caravan 6. Barclay James Harvest - Barclay James Harvest SECONDS 1. Camel - Mirage 2. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord 3. Barclay James Harvest - Once Again 4. Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You 5. Procol Harum - Shine on Brightly 6. Renaissance - Illusion THIRDS 1. Renaissance - Prologue 2. Barclay James Harvest - Barclay James Harvest and Other Short Stories 3. The Moody Blues - On the Threshold of a Dream 4. Caravan - In the Land of Pink and Grey 5. Camel - The Snow Goose 6. Procol Harum - A Salty Dog FOURTHS 1. Camel - Moonmadness 2. Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning 3. The Moody Blues - To Our Children's Children's Children 4. Barclay James Harvest - Baby James Harvest 5. Procol Harum - Home 6. Caravan - Waterloo Lily FIFTHS 1. Renaissance - Turn of The Cards 2. Camel - Rain Dances 3. The Moody Blues - A Question of Balance 4. Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night 5. Barclay James Harvest - Everyone is Everybody Else 6. Procol Harum - Broken Barricades SIXTHS 1. Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories 2. The Moody Blues - Every Good Boy Deserves a Favour 3. Barclay James Harvest - Time Honoured Ghosts 4. Camel - Breathless 5. Caravan - Cunning Stunts 6. Procol Harum - Grand Hotel SEVENTHS 1. Renaissance - Novella 2. The Moody Blues - Seventh Sojourn 3. Camel - I Can See Your House from Here 4. Barclay James Harvest - Octoberon 5. Procol Harum - Exotic Birds & Fruit 6. Caravan - Blind Dog at St. Dunstans EIGHTHS 1. Renaissance - A Song for All Seasons 2. Camel - Nude 3. Barclay James Harvest - Gone to Earth 4. The Moody Blues - Octave 5. Caravan - Better by Far 6. Procol Harum - Procol's Ninth NINTHS 1. The Moody Blues - Long Distance Voyager 2. Renaissance - Azure d'Or 3. Procol Harum - Something Magic 4. Barclay James Harvest - Eyes of the Universe 5. Camel - The Single Factor 6. Caravan - The Album TENTHS 1. Camel - Stationary Traveller 2. The Moody Blues - The Present 3. Procol Harum - The Prodigal Stranger 4. Barclay James Harvest - Turn of the Tide 5. Renaissance - Camera Camera 6. Caravan - Back to Front ELEVENSES 1. Procol Harum - The Long Goodbye 2. Camel - Dust and Dreams 3. Barclay James Harvest - Ring of Changes 4. The Moody Blues - The Other Side of Life 5. Caravan - Cool Water 6. Renaissance - Time-Line TWELVES 1. Renaissance - Tuscany 2. Camel - Harbour of Tears 3. Procol Harum - The Well's on Fire 4. Caravan - The Battle of Hastings 5. The Moody Blues - Sur la Mer 6. Barclay James Harvest - Victims of Circumstance
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 06:57
FIRSTS
1. The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed 2. Camel - Camel 3. Caravan - Caravan 4. Barclay James Harvest - Barclay James Harvest
SECONDS
1. Camel - Mirage 2. The Moody Blues - In Search of the Lost Chord 3. Barclay James Harvest - Once Again 4. Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You
THIRDS
2. Caravan - In the Land of Pink and Grey 1. Camel - The Snow Goose 3. Procol Harum - A Salty Dog
FOURTHS
1. Camel - Moonmadness 2. Barclay James Harvest - Baby James Harvest 3. Procol Harum - Home
FIFTHS
1. Camel - Rain Dances 2. Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night 3. Barclay James Harvest - Everyone is Everybody Else 4. Procol Harum - Broken Barricades
SIXTHS
1. Barclay James Harvest - Time Honoured Ghosts 2.. Camel - Breathless 4.. Caravan - Cunning Stunts 3. Procol Harum - Grand Hotel
SEVENTHS
1. Barclay James Harvest - Octoberon 2. Camel I can see your house from heer 3. Procol Harum - Exotic Birds & Fruits 4. Caravan - Blind Dog at St. Dunstans
EIGHTHS
2. Camel - Nude 1. Barclay James Harvest - Gone to Earth
NINTHS
2. Barclay James Harvest - Eyes of the Universe 1. Camel - The Single Factor
TENTHS
1. Camel - Stationary Traveller
ELEVENSES
1. Camel - Dust and Dreams
TWELVES
1 Camel - Harbour of Tears
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 10:30
Awesome to see people coming up with others for lists, and yes, I don;t take the exercise very seriously, but for me it's a fun and strangely rewarding challenge. List-making helps me re-focus. It;s quite like meditation for me, only not. :) That is the way I at first wanted to do it and should have stuck with the plan. I will try one with Caravan and Camel later (two serious classics) but wanted to do an artist one. While all of these were making albums in the 70s up, it is not a classic Prog list like the other two I presented. It's Bowie, Bush, Hammill and Wyatt. I then thought of adding Peter Gabriel, doofus (sp?) forgetting, but I am running late.
Debuts: 1. The Kick Inside (Kate Bush) 2. Fool's Mate (Peter Hammill) 3. The End of an Ear (Robert Wyatt) 4. David Bowie (David Bowie) Seconds: 1. Rock Bottom (Robert Wyatt) 2. Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night (Peter Hammill) 3. Lionheart (Kate Bush) 4. Space Oddity (David Bowie) Thirds: 1. The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage (Peter Hammill) 2. The Man Who Sold the World (David Bowie) 3. Never for Ever (Kate Bush) 4. Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard (Robert Wyatt) Fourths: (the hardest yet and in no way definitive) 1. Hunky Dory (David Bowie) 2. The Dreaming (Kate Bush) 3. In Camera (Peter Hammill) 4. Old Rottenhat (Robert Wyatt) Fifths: 1. Hounds of Love (Kate Bush) 2. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars (David Bowie) 3. Nadir's Big Chance (Peter Hammill) 4. Dondestan (Robert Wyatt) Sixths: 1. Aladdin Sane (David Bowie) 2. Shleep (Robert Wyatt) 3. The Sensual World (Kate Bush) 4. Over (Peter Hammill Sevenths: 1. Cuckooland (Robert Wyatt) 2. The Future Now (Peter Hammill) 3. Pinups (David Bowie) 4. The Red Shoes (Kate Bush) Eights: 1. Aerial (Kate Bush) 2. Comicopera (Robert Wyatt) 3. pH7 (Peter Hammill) 4. Diamond Dogs (David Bowie) Ninths: 1. A Black Box (Peter Hammill) 2. Young Americans (David Bowie) - not heard: Director's Cut (Kate Bush) - archival (I would not count): Radio Experiment Rome, February 1981 (Robert Wyatt) Tenths: 1. 50 Words for Snow (Kate Bush) 2. Station to Station (David Bowie) - not very familair with: Sitting Targets (Peter Hammill) - collaboration not familiar with: For the Ghosts Within (Wyatt/Atzmon/Stephen) Elevenths: 1. Low (David Bowie) (great album, imo) - don't know: Enter K (peter Hammill) n/a Kate Bush don't know, don't count archival: '68 (Robert Wyatt) Twelths: 1. 'Heroes' (David Bowie) - deserving of top spot even with no competition - don't know: Loops and Reels (Peter Hammill) - don't know enough and collab: KiTsuNe / Brian the Fox (The Future Eve & Robert Wyatt)
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 12:09
I've looked at this thread Greg and looked again.... but I find it next to impossible to rate these albums as its continually having the greatest bands and many of the greatest albums competing against each other. I can't put them in an order because it often depends on my mood (or even phase of life!) as to which I would choose, but I'd rather not do without any of them... except for some of the later Crimson ones, maybe?
I know that probably sounds very lame, because everyone else seems to have managed it without too much trouble, but you can't ask me to choose between CttE, SEBTP & TaaB!!?? They are the best albums by all three bands!!
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 13:19
Jared wrote:
I've looked at this thread Greg and looked again.... but I find it next to impossible to rate these albums as its continually having the greatest bands and many of the greatest albums competing against each other. I can't put them in an order because it often depends on my mood (or even phase of life!) as to which I would choose, but I'd rather not do without any of them... except for some of the later Crimson ones, maybe?
I know that probably sounds very lame, because everyone else seems to have managed it without too much trouble, but you can't ask me to choose between CttE, SEBTP & TaaB!!?? They are the best albums by all three bands!! |
I think that's mature, Jared, and you're not the only one. I recognise a kind of ridiculous futility in the exercise myself. And If Peter were still around I might get a post about making sport of art. Of course he had a good point, but I approach these from a rather different perspective. When voting in a poll or doing some like this, I tend to go with my feeling at that moment. I don't think in terms of best, more "Which of these would I most like to listen to right now?" Or I go on a whim, or toss a mental coin. Then toss that mental coin again if I don't like the result. :lol:
At different times I would favour different ones, and what most interests me now commonly is not what would have most interested me in past years. As people we change all the time, and I choose based on the feelings of the moment at the time of choosing, not how it might have affected me yesterday, or how I liked it ten years ago etc.
I actually have been kind of surprised to pretty commonly see people write something like, "I am voting for x because it was my first favourite of these", or "It my first of these so it gets my vote." I understand the nostalgia factor, but I'm more inclined to go with ones that I fell for more recently, played most recently, or in the case of ones where I have know all for a long time, just based on my whim or mood of the time. Today I might well list those in a different order (
I'm please to see people who appreciate a variety of albums across bands and don't just go with a "favourite band" no matter what album it is up against.
I was Watching My Kitchen Rules 10 last night, an Australian program, and Manu, who is one of the food judges said something like, "I love food. And if I don't love a certain food now, I learn to love it" is response to someone with very limited tastes. I'm pleased to see the lack of band fanboyism that is apparent across lists. Mind you, those are five big name classics. If I did, say, Dream Theater and Univers Zero, then it would be more divided into factions.
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 13:28
RIO / Zeuhl Big 5
Debut Univers Zero - 1313 Henry Cow - Legend Art Zoyd - Symphonie Pour Le Jour Ou Bruleront Les Cites Magma - Kobaia Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna
Second Univers Zero - Heresie Samla Mammas Manna - Maltid Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odyssee Henry Cow - Unrest Magma - 1001 Centrigrade
Third Univers Zero - Ceux Du Dehors Art Zoyd - Generation Sans Futur Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning Magma - Mekanik Destrukiw Kommandoh Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet
Fourth Henry Cow - Western Culture Art Zoyd - Phase IV Univers Zero - Uzed Magma - Kohntarkosz Samla Mammas Manna - Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's Snorungarnas Symfoni
Fifth Univers Zero - Heatwave Art Zoyd - Les Espaces Inquiets Magma - Udu Wudu Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik
Sixth Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor Art Zoyd - Le Mariage Du Ciel Et De L'Enfer Univers Zero - The Hard Quest Magma - Attahk
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 13:36
Greg: You raise a lot of interesting points there, but because of (all of) our historical attachments to the bands you initially included, it is practically impossible to keep nostalgia at bay when deciding. SEBtP & CttE in particular are so heavily welded to the 16/17 year old Jared who thought they were 'out of this world' that they have remained at the top of the tree ever since and it would be almost impossible to dislodge them... they are fixtures and fittings of my Prog mind.
So, on the one hand I would find it almost impossible to objectively say that in 2024 I prefer Atom Heart Mother (which I discovered when I was about 18 and realised it was a lot more interesting than 'The Final Cut'), yet on the other hand, I sometime wonder why I actually still listen to SEBtP at all... am I really listening to it? I can't say that I am, because it's probably years since I actually noticed anything new in it that I'd missed and although it will always remain in my top 3 albums of all time... do I really need to play it again? Saturation point was reached many years ago...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 03 2024 at 14:15
^ Thanks, Jared. That makes perfect sense to me. And there's a lot of music I still value, and know very well, so I feel no desire to ever listen to it again, at least not externally as it may pop into my head. Yes' Fragile is one of those for me. Some stuff I used to love but I played to death and now don't have fond memories. Some stuff I used to love is just not of any interest to me any longer.
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By the way, I had a go with Ian's list. I included Wurdah Itah (better thought of as a Christian Vander album) methinks in one where I included before, but like Ian, I won't here. I like all of the bands even if SMM/ZMM I have listened to less. So easy to rearrange with a template once someone has already listed the albums. I want to do one more to it. Heck, I even like Magma's Merci. And I am adding Von Zamla for the Samla Mamas Manna family. I love Von Zamla.
Debut: 1. Magma - Kobaia 2. Univers Zero - 1313 3. Henry Cow - Legend 4. Art Zoyd - Symphonie Pour le Jour Ou Bruleront les Cites 5. Samla Mammas Manna - Samla Mammas Manna Second: 1. Univers Zero - Heresie 2. Magma - 1001 Centrigrade 3. Art Zoyd - Musique Pour l'Odyssee 4. Henry Cow - Unrest 5. Samla Mammas Manna - Maltid Third: 1. Art Zoyd - Generation Sans Futur 2. Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors 3. Magma - Mekanik Destrukiw Kommandoh 4. Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning 5. Samla Mammas Manna - Klossa Knapitatet Fourth: 1. Henry Cow - Western Culture 2. Art Zoyd - Phase IV 3 Univers Zero - Uzed 4. Magma - Kohntarkosz * not heard: Samla Mammas Manna - Gregory Allan Fitzpatrick's Snorungarnas Symfoni Fifth: 1. Art Zoyd - Les Espaces Inquiets 2. Magma - Udu Wudu 3. Univers Zero - Heatwave * not heard: Zamla Mammaz Manna - Schlagerns Mystik Sixth: 1. Art Zoyd - Le Mariage du Ciel et de l'Enfer 2. Magma - Attahk 3. Zamla Mammaz Manna - Familjesprickor 4. Univers Zero - The Hard Quest Seventh: 1. Art Zoyd - Berlin 2. Von Zamla - Zamlaranamma 3. Magma - Merci
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