All Purpose Canterbury and related thread
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Topic: All Purpose Canterbury and related thread
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Subject: All Purpose Canterbury and related thread
Date Posted: September 27 2024 at 17:00
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In light of my recent returning fascination with Canterbury prog... I encourage everyone to share their latest spins or discuss particular albums (old & new) right here... Been spinning a lot of Hatfield, NH, Soft Machine's fourth and bundles, Matching Mole, early Gong & Caravan, Hillage, Khan, Egg's first 2, Zopp, etc... Anything more obscure in similar vein to any of the artists listed above??  -Alex
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 27 2024 at 17:14
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Gilgamesh Tom Penaguin Phil Miller |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 27 2024 at 17:29
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^ Gilgamesh made 2 superb ones as well! Grumpy, is Phil Miller's band In Cahoots in any way comparable to his work with Hatfield and Health?
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 27 2024 at 17:38
| ^In Cahoots is jazzier than Hatfield or Health. It's not similar, but I enjoy it. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 00:33
This is basically early Gong, so if you're not familiar with this sidelong trip already, you are in for a treat: |
Zappastolethetowels wrote:Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 13:00
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I listened to both of Zopp's records last night and I must say I was underwhelmed; it sounded like the best aspects of 70s Canterbury done in numbers with no original ideas. The vocalist is terrible. Having said that, Dominion was a slight improvement over the debut, and the reason for that was the record company probably told them to inject some pop flavor and make the production more expansive/spacey and what do you know...it worked... barely. Bushnell Keeler is the only track I would throw on a best of Canterbury playlist and happily forget the rest. Has anyone else heard the band, and thoughts?
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 13:02
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^and Toxicity from the same LP
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 13:34
ZOPP In the Dominion of Canterbury Scene bands, Zopp are one of the best British bands who barely anyone has ever heard of. Zopp may be new to the Canterbury Scene, but they're better than Hatfield & the North, better than National Health, and dare I say it, Caravan are left trailing behind too!   2020: Zopp - Zopp - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2Lx6HDorQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ2Lx6HDorQ  2023: Zopp - Dominion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvqUDj1Iy54 |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 13:52
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^a bold a statement if there ever was one! I could not disagree more with everything you said, except that they are virtually unheard of. The only favorable words I can utter are that Zopp CAN be a sign of things to come... hopefully their third album can strike even harder with a perfect balance of originality, experimentation, musicianship and maybe a little... dare I say whimsy.
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 13:56
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I thought Zopp are Scandinavian?!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 14:00
Zopp are, I think, from the region where Paul and the evil sheriff resides, Naughty Ham [sic].
I agree with your assessment. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 18:01
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Zopp took some listens and when someone said they sound like Egg that actually helped me appreciate what was going on there. I'm pretty stoked about Zopp, Tom Penaguin, De Lorains and The Winstons. All modern bands embracing that canterbury sound. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: September 28 2024 at 23:03
For someone who adores the first 2 Egg releases, I heard nothing there that reminded me of them. Perhaps I need another listen...do you know which song(s) led you to make that observation? I would be interested. Yeah...you see, I just can't get into these modern prog bands embracing both the "classics" and the modern pop sound. It all comes off sounding pretentious and samey to me. Sorry Having said that, we all hear things differently
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Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: October 01 2024 at 21:40
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^ Those Dedalus and Gong records are amazing!
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 02 2024 at 06:01
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^Glad you liked them! As for the two first Egg-releases, for me Moving Gelatine Plates two first albums scratches a similar itch (make sure to stop when the totally out of place bonus tracks starts. They ruin the mood). Great, fun, "French Canterbury" |
Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 02 2024 at 10:13
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"Going Off Topic" by The Filibuster Saloon is very nice. This live-in-studio video features an instrumental off that 2023 album. |
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 02 2024 at 10:50
I've discovered that the kind of Canterbury Scene music which appeals to me the most comes from much farther to the east than England's green and pleasant garden county of Kent.  DE LORIANS It's back to the future for this oriental band of rising sons who are about as far away from Canterbury's dreaming spires as it's possible to be, although very close musically.   2019: De Lorians - De Lorians - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4P6843FPmG_75z1t37iZs9N4dIAR5VGs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l4P6843FPmG_75z1t37iZs9N4dIAR5VGs HENRYTENNIS Banzai! HenryTennis are an instrumental Canterbury Scene band who are almost as far removed from Canterbury as it's possible to be and if you Nippon down to your local record store you're unlikely to find their albums there. Need any more clues as to where HenryTennis are from? They're from the land that first introduced suicide pilots to the world. No, not Saudi Arabia, but Japan, for those with long enough memories. 2022: HenryTennis - Bay Leaf and Singers - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLf5iiJXcqLrHFMBwWaacUw4Qfqq0J0xw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lLf5iiJXcqLrHFMBwWaacUw4Qfqq0J0xw MOLESLOPE Be kind to moles as you just never know what hidden treasure you may unearth, but only if you happen to be digging around in Tokyo. Yes, this band of rising sons (and a woman from Tokyo too) are a band I can really dig and they're a welcome improvement over their inspiration and namesakes: Matching Mole. 2019: Moleslope - Slope - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afPFRAzn5lA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afPFRAzn5lA MR. SIRIUS Konnichiwa! Sirius is the brightest star in the night sky. So bright in fact that you can see it all the way from Japan, and that's where you'll find Mr. Sirius - the brightest rising sons (and daughter) in the Canterbury Scene. Mr. Sirius cleverly combines classical music with the best melodic prog of Camel and The Enid, and with the added attraction of an angelic female vocalist too, creating the perfect blend of Symphonic Prog and Canterbury Scene music.  1987: Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfZo7wThFw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfZo7wThFw 1990: Mr. Sirius - Dirge - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAi2zyNLdY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZAi2zyNLdY STUBBS The Japs may not be prime movers in the Canterbury Scene, but they're no lumps of lard either. 1985: Stubbs - The Prime Moving Lumps - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luqJTY7SIzg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luqJTY7SIzg |
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: October 02 2024 at 18:05
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Discovered Hatfield and the North, Gong , Caravan and Soft Machine in the early to mid 70s. By the late 70s and early 80s I was buying Robert Wyatt albums. Matching Mole, Egg, Gilgamesh, Soft Heap, and others. Bill Bruford Feels Good To Me seemed to fit in with what people were defining as Canterbury. Another album that sounds rather Canterbury to me is Michael Giles Progress which features a couple ex members of Caravan. It's an excellent album! I don't believe that the band Camel agree with being categorized Canterbury...however if you listen to SUPERTWISTER from Mirage and certain pieces from Snow Goose and Moonmadness it is telling. Especially material from Rain Dances. Not only because Richard Sinclair is singing , but also the instrumental pieces reveal those similarities heard in Canterbury bands |
Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 02 2024 at 19:14
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In contrast to numerous "Canterbury" artists who might not have
even visited that town, The Boot Lagoon's members are Cantuarians by
birth. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 00:44
"Cantuarians by birth"?! I don't know what that means.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:00
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:02
Centurians Canterburians
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:07
People born in and around Canterbury are known as Cantuarians, so presumably, the Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't qualify as a Cantuarian.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:13
It seems he's right and i made a lame joke. It still sounds weird to me ("Cantuarians" for a person from Canterbury).
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Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:19
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:21
A smiling red devil for a naughty lame joke. That's all. I've already admitted my mistake.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:27
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Admittedly, I didn't know until today that someone from Canterbury was known as a Cantuarian either, so thank God for Google.
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Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 01:42
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 03 2024 at 02:01
Is that what i was doing, bullying you? How?! I admitted my mistake, but you just can't let it go. |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: October 04 2024 at 13:24
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Lets get back on track
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Posted By: Starshiper
Date Posted: October 13 2024 at 19:42
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This month, Needlepoint—my fave band from Norway—released yet
another excellent album in the tradition of the Canterbury scene,
"Remnants of Light." This is the closing track on the album. |