Listening Habits By Decade
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Topic: Listening Habits By Decade
Posted By: Jared
Subject: Listening Habits By Decade
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:00
I have devised this poll to compliment those recently created by David and Greg.
I'd like forum members to consider all the music (prog or otherwise) they listen to in an average week and tick the three boxes representing the most common eras/ decades the music would have come from. I realise how difficult this would be to do accurately, so take an educated guess.
This should depict when the music was originally created, not performed... so a Beethoven Symph would be Pre-1970, even if it was performed at the Proms a couple of weeks ago.
I would be interested to see what overall trend is created...
Thank you
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:05
Posted By: Big Sky
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:17
1970s, although the period would be 1967 - 1983. Classical music and some jazz would be the exceptions to that time frame.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:19
I often favour that which is newer to me regardless of when it was produced, released or conceived and I continue to discover great-for-me music from many decades (mostly from the 1960s up). I also like to my favourites a lot and can really obsess over releases, but I digress.
With my current listening habits, I would tend to say as my three choices:
2010's 2020-23 Then 1990's
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:34
I would guess 2020s, then 2000s, then 2010s … but I‘ll check my playlist entries at AP to confirm 😊
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:34
This can be done quite exactly in my case, as I know how many albums I have from each decade in my collection, and roughly speaking, I listen to all my albums equally. So the result says:
1. 1970s 2. 1980s 3. 1990s
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 13:44
'70s and '80s mostly. A smattering of everything else when the mood hits.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 14:07
Are multiple votes allowed?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 14:15
Ok, according to my playlist entries these are the numbers (first number is all listens, second number in parentheses is only counting releases which I listened to at least twice, so removing all "first listen and then lost interest" entries)
2020s: 1095 (476) 2010s: 488 (343) 2000s: 1778 (1427) 1990s: 414 (358) 1980s: 91 (67) 1970s: 172 (131) 1960s: 26 (17)
Disclaimer: These are full release listens, and of course I haven't tracked every listen (by a long shot), but the numbers are surely an approximation of what I'm listening to the most.
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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 14:41
It has changed over the years but honestly (and particularly as i get older) the 1970's have stayed fairly central. After that.. i guess pre 1970's to include everything that came before.. then its a tie between 1980's, and the 2000's/ 2010. There's not much which resonates with me from the 1990's apart from a few notable exceptions.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 15:00
I'd say 67-73, but on a wider scale, 61-79 or 59-83
but let's play the game:
70's 60's
00's 10's 90's
80's
Of course, I spend a lot of time discovering new stuff, so in a given week of 2024, 70% of my listening would be 2023 & 2024 stuff.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 00:06
Jared wrote:
I'd like forum members to consider all the music (prog or otherwise) they listen to in an average week and tick the three boxes representing the most common eras/ decades the music would have come from.
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1. Current releases 2. 1970's 3. 2020-2022
I've been using streaming services for the last 3 years very heavily and put all new interesting (to me) prog an non releases in massive playlists for each year. I gobble up new albums and there has been a lot of great stuff in this year so far and with more to look forward to (Frost* and Opeth especially) Of course I still go back to my 70's prog a lot although I can't say it's as much as I should. Other than ELP, Floyd and Gentle Giant I seem to have taken a bit of a 'rest' on this decade. I can't remember the last time I listened to Thick as A Brick although I do listen to Aqualung a few times a year. Close To The Edge also gets an occasional spin as well as those early PFM albums. I don't know with Genesis anymore. I sometimes wonder if they are now 'superceded' by Big Big Train. I was talking to an Australian fellow at a recent gig and he opinioned that Genesis were now 'out' and BBT were in for him. I kind of agree. In general I find modern prog a lot more interesting and diverse. I also like the harder edge that so many modern bands bring.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:02
verslibre wrote:
Are multiple votes allowed? |
Please vote for up to three... it'll flesh out a rough picture.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:13
Thanks everyone for your information and please keep them coming!
PA says over 77,000 releases have been included on the database, and it must be that a fair number of these have subsequently fallen into a void and almost been forgotten.
Flicking around online, it does appear that celebrated albums from the 1970's heyday, far from having lost any popularity thru the decades, seem to have only increased in their appeal over the past 10-15 years.
It does make you wonder therefore, whether most Prog music created in the 1990's gets much of a hearing now? I'm not talking about the likes of Spock's, PT or tFK, but I suspect that the music of many of the smaller bands at the time who perhaps never made it out of that decade, has become all but lost in time?
I wonder what will happen to the majority of prog music from the 00's and 10's... has much of it gone the same way? And, how many of the 2024 releases will still be being regularly played in 20 years time when there will be so many more albums created and vying for our attention?
Because, you can bet your life that in 20 years time, ELP albums will still be played regularly... ?
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:15
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Ok, according to my playlist entries these are the numbers (first number is all listens, second number in parentheses is only counting releases which I listened to at least twice, so removing all "first listen and then lost interest" entries)
2020s: 1095 (476) 2010s: 488 (343) 2000s: 1778 (1427) 1990s: 414 (358) 1980s: 91 (67) 1970s: 172 (131) 1960s: 26 (17)
Disclaimer: These are full release listens, and of course I haven't tracked every listen (by a long shot), but the numbers are surely an approximation of what I'm listening to the most. |
I have to say, that is a very impressive list Mike...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:29
^ Well, these data represent over about 20 years of listening. I typically manage to listen to one release per day
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:43
1970's.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:51
I'm not sure what a "listening habit" is. Is trying to listening to some music every day a listening habit?
Every decade has something to offer, I can't make just three choices, I would not do justice to a lot of artists/bands I enjoy.
Good idea for a poll, no doubt, but I cannot choose.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:09
^ This is about what your habits are, not about what you would like them to be. Personally I'd love to be listening to lots of 1970s releases, but it's just not happening because I do not want to miss out on listening to new releases.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:17
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ This is about what your habits are, not about what you would like them to be. Personally I'd love to be listening to lots of 1970s releases, but it's just not happening because I do not want to miss out on listening to new releases. |
Like I said, i don't know or am not sure what a "listening habit" is. Most of the time it's my mood that is what decides what I end up listening to. It's not a matter of what decade the artist/band is from.
I might have misunderstood what I'm supposed to be doing in this thread then.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:18
Even if I like digging around, the 70s are still the decade I go more often. Nowadays I'm listening a lot to the last Gilmour's and the last from Bass and Biro. New albums by people coming from the 70s
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Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:27
70's, 80's and 90's. I think those were the most important decades to prog, apart the end of the 60's.
------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*)
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:29
Cristi wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ This is about what your habits are, not about what you would like them to be. Personally I'd love to be listening to lots of 1970s releases, but it's just not happening because I do not want to miss out on listening to new releases. |
Like I said, i don't know or am not sure what a "listening habit" is. Most of the time it's my mood that is what decides what I end up listening to. It's not a matter of what decade the artist/band is from.
I might have misunderstood what I'm supposed to be doing in this thread then. |
Maybe the use of the word should be trends, instead of habits, might make it simpler to grasp.
Seeing from which era the music you're listening recently is from.
I would imagine that a lot of us are listening to recently-released stuff, so the 20's will probably get a lot of votes.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:45
octopus-4 wrote:
Even if I like digging around, the 70s are still the decade I go more often. Nowadays I'm listening a lot to the last Gilmour's and the last from Bass and Biro. New albums by people coming from the 70s |
actually, I think that would be a good idea for another poll... of all the 'brand new' releases you've listened to over the past few years, how many would be by newly formed bands (and if so, how did you hear about them) how many were formed in the 2010's, 2000's and so on.... and how many new releases are by bands in their twilight years of creativity, such as Focus, Yes, Steve Hackett etc...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:50
Sean Trane wrote:
Cristi wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ This is about what your habits are, not about what you would like them to be. Personally I'd love to be listening to lots of 1970s releases, but it's just not happening because I do not want to miss out on listening to new releases. |
Like I said, i don't know or am not sure what a "listening habit" is. Most of the time it's my mood that is what decides what I end up listening to. It's not a matter of what decade the artist/band is from.
I might have misunderstood what I'm supposed to be doing in this thread then. |
Maybe the use of the word should be trends, instead of habits, might make it simpler to grasp.
Seeing from which era the music you're listening recently is from.
I would imagine that a lot of us are listening to recently-released stuff, so the 20's will probably get a lot of votes. |
Yes, this isn't about 'favourites' (although in a roundabout way it might be!)... it's simply about exposure and airplay. You listen to a great deal of varied music, so it might be hard for you to quantify, but which decades would be best represented by your listening choices?
My gut feeling is that much of what was created in the golden era of Prog still gets a lot of airplay, while companies such as Esoteric Recs are busy remastering and repackaging albums by... let's say 2nd and 3rd tier Prog bands from the 70's, perhaps on the wave of nostalgia??
My feeling is that by way of contrast, only the very best releases from the 90's and 00's will stand the best of time as a higher percentage appear to have been forgotten?
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:13
^ It comes down to personal preference. I can agree that CttE is probably the single best representation of Prog Rock, but that does not mean that I'm inclined to listen to it every day - or that I would gravitate to listening to similar releases from that time period. My "stomping grounds" were the 1990s, and the 2000s were when most of my favourite artists in my age group +- 10 years released their very best albums. So the 2000s are much closer to my heart than any 70s release. And that also means that I play them more.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:30
^^ which is quite understandable... but when you look at Fb posts from a whole host of Prog Websites, the albums people post tend to be either from the Classic era or those which have been released within the past 2-3 years... albums from the 90's and 00's seem to be the most under-represented overall in terms of profile, which was one of the reasons for the poll.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:39
Now, had you all been tracking your listens through PF/AP through the decades, we could see the data
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:43
Well, these are the data across all users (all playlist entries) at AP as of today:
1960s: 7741970s: 6949 1980s: 5538 1990s: 8643 2000s: 16696 2010s: 14075 2020s: 8547
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 03:55
^^ interesting... is it possible that your site attracts a younger audience than PA and various Fb pages?
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 04:18
Jared wrote:
Yes, this isn't about 'favourites' (although in a roundabout way it might be!)... it's simply about exposure and airplay. You listen to a great deal of varied music, so it might be hard for you to quantify, but which decades would be best represented by your listening choices?
My gut feeling is that much of what was created in the golden era of Prog still gets a lot of airplay, while companies such as Esoteric Recs are busy remastering and repackaging albums by... let's say 2nd and 3rd tier Prog bands from the 70's, perhaps on the wave of nostalgia??
My feeling is that by way of contrast, only the very best releases from the 90's and 00's will stand the best of time as a higher percentage appear to have been forgotten? |
TBH, most of the 60/70's stuff I listen to nowadays is what you call "2nd and 3rd tier Prog bands from the 70's" or "more obscure 70's prog" (that less disrespectful), because I haven't had enough of some - which I've discovered in the 90's via labels like Repertoire. I rarely get the urge to listen to the 70's masterpiece anymore, because I know them by heart
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As for the 90's, I tend to prefer that decade over the 80's, but it's not that much better. Not only the 80's production values lasted well into the 90's, but also around the end of that decade, the Loudness Wars started happening, rendering some albums painful to listen to (thinking of Rush's Test For Echo & Vapor Trails), but the LW (compressions) lasted until well into the 00's.
What saves the 90's for me are grunge, funk metal (RATM, RHCP, etc...), post rock & trip hop as well as the Scandinavian Retro-prog, but I'm not quite sure that I would retain all that much more albums in my top 90's list than for my 80's list. And if there would be more rock albums in my 90's list, it's because I paid more attention to what was going on than in the 80's - when I almost literally turned the radio off from 86 to 89.
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 04:59
Jared wrote:
^^ interesting... is it possible that your site attracts a younger audience than PA and various Fb pages? |
I don't think my website is attractive for younger audiences (than PA) ... for one thing, back when it started most of the heavy users came from PA. And then, as others have pointed out, many young people really gravitate towards RYM. And nowadays there's a handful of users that generate the lion's share of all the playlist entries, and I think they're all in my age group (or older)
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 05:19
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 05:43
I took 140 random songs in all genres from my go-to misc music folder and labeled each one by decade.
pre70 - 2 1970s - 53 1980s - 20 1990s - 10 2000s - 24 2010s - 21 2020s - 10
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 05:50
1970's and also current releases, maily because the 70's always remain the era when I was in my teens/early 20s, and I had a lot of free time to listen to music. Additionally, I like to explore the new band of today, so my tendency is to check them out, more frequently than the 80s, 90s, etc.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 06:22
Listened to.....
In the 1960's:- My Mum & Dad's old records
In the 1970's:- Glam Rock, Prog Rock, Soul & Disco (in that order)
In the 1980's:- Synth Pop/New Wave & Dance Pop (mainly Madonna & Michael Jackson)
In the 1990's:- Electronica
In the 2000's:- Symphonic Metal
In the 2010's:- Absolutely EVERYTHING I missed out on in the previous fifty years after finally going online in 2010 and discovering the miraculous wonders of YouTube - opening up a whole new world of music listening I never even knew existed before 2010.
In the 2020's:- Discovering for the first time that Progressive Rock is a worldwide phenomenon and not just confined to British shores.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 14:50
Sean Trane wrote:
Jared wrote:
Yes, this isn't about 'favourites' (although in a roundabout way it might be!)... it's simply about exposure and airplay. You listen to a great deal of varied music, so it might be hard for you to quantify, but which decades would be best represented by your listening choices?
My gut feeling is that much of what was created in the golden era of Prog still gets a lot of airplay, while companies such as Esoteric Recs are busy remastering and repackaging albums by... let's say 2nd and 3rd tier Prog bands from the 70's, perhaps on the wave of nostalgia??
My feeling is that by way of contrast, only the very best releases from the 90's and 00's will stand the best of time as a higher percentage appear to have been forgotten? |
TBH, most of the 60/70's stuff I listen to nowadays is what you call "2nd and 3rd tier Prog bands from the 70's" or "more obscure 70's prog" (that less disrespectful), because I haven't had enough of some - which I've discovered in the 90's via labels like Repertoire. I rarely get the urge to listen to the 70's masterpiece anymore, because I know them by heart
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As for the 90's, I tend to prefer that decade over the 80's, but it's not that much better. Not only the 80's production values lasted well into the 90's, but also around the end of that decade, the Loudness Wars started happening, rendering some albums painful to listen to (thinking of Rush's Test For Echo & Vapor Trails), but the LW (compressions) lasted until well into the 00's.
What saves the 90's for me are grunge, funk metal (RATM, RHCP, etc...), post rock & trip hop as well as the Scandinavian Retro-prog, but I'm not quite sure that I would retain all that much more albums in my top 90's list than for my 80's list. And if there would be more rock albums in my 90's list, it's because I paid more attention to what was going on than in the 80's - when I almost literally turned the radio off from 86 to 89.
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I adore the 80s and 90s, and every decade from the 60s up. Each decade has so much music I like (and film, TV etc.). I don't care that much generally about what was on the radio then. Most of what I adore from the 80s and 90s I got to know much more recently. SOme of that did play on the radio and I only now have an apprecation of it.
From the 80s I love music by Joy Division, Art Zoyd, Swans (with Children of God), Cocteau Twins, Talk Talk, Gary Numan, Terry Riley, Abus Dangereux, Rahmann, This Heat, Glenn Branca, Dün, Phew, Fabio Frizzi, Wha-Ha-Ha, Kate Bush, Giorgio Moroder, Klaus Doldinger, Carpenter, Laurie Anderson, Goblin, Von Zamla, Zamla Mammaz Manna, Holger Czukay, Jah Wobble & Jaki Liebezeit, Eskaton, Konomi Sasaki, Codona, Zanov, The Chameleons, This Mortal Coil, Siouxsie and The Banshees, Echo & the Bunnymen, Penguin Cafe Orchestra, Yog Sothoth, Violent Femmes, Jean-Paul Prat, Dead Can Dance, Tuxedomoon, The Residents, Hellebore, Univers Zero, Present, The Wake, Einstürzende Neubauten, Camberwell Now, The Smiths, News From Babel, Harold Budd, Elizabeth Fraser, Robin Guthrie & Simon Raymonde, Shub-Niggurath, Public Image Ltd., Cardiacs, David Sylvian, Renaldo and the Loaf, Midnight Oil, Jane Siberry, Dinosaur, Zendik Farm Orgaztra, The Church, Miriodor, Galaxie 500, The Sisters of Mercy, Thinking Plague, After Dinner, The Cure, The Lounge Lizards, Asylum Party, Ziyo, Geinoh Yamashirumi, Depeche Mode...
And the 90s had so many awesome for my tastes releases with Boards of Canada, Portishead, Air, Swans, Radiohead, Godspped You Black EMperor, Tortoise, Fishmans, the Necks, Mr. Bungle, Stereolab, Pram, Bjork, Komeda, Cocteau Twins, Bondage Fruit etc. etc.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 17:06
Hi,
Interesting stuff, however, I can not say that I listened to more of one ting than another anymore ... perhaps way back when I might say that the 1970's were special and I had many more listens from there than otherwise, but in the end, I have never looked at the time period for listening to anything, as picking up Debussy, was as good, or better, than a lot of stuff for me.
I love music in all its forms, even if some of them seem to make me wonder what they are about, but the general feel is that it is honest and true to itself, and thus worth a listen, and I suppose that is my main idea, and that kinda takes away the time period ... I'm not sure I dislike, or not like enough, some Mozart, Beethoven, Stravinsky ... and many classical folks, though I might even say that I probably heard more AD2 and the affiliated "krautrock" a bit more during the 70's.
Interesting results ... but the hard/metal thing in the 2000's did not grab me that much even though I got to see DT (3 times), Queensryche, Fates Warning, and a lot more of those bands. It's all "music" to me, but in general the 2000's is not any better than any other time for me ... they are all really good in my book!
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 18:20
I really can't tell; I have the feeling that I cover new music and several decades of the past almost uniformly. Pre-70s probably have the last position; despite checking out some new releases, 2024 hasn't convinced me much yet, so it's probably not up there either, but that leaves still six categories between which I find it very hard to differentiate. Maybe 1990s a tiny bit less and 2020-2023 because that's just four years. And if I have to narrow it down to three decades, it may well be that even the golden 70s do not qualify, so let's say 1980s, 2000s, 2010s, but that may really be very wrong.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 18:53
Right now it's current, 2020-2023 and 70s but I will probably explore the middle period a bit more before too long.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 19:25
Manuel wrote:
1970's and also current releases, maily because the 70's always remain the era when I was in my teens/early 20s, and I had a lot of free time to listen to music. Additionally, I like to explore the new band of today, so my tendency is to check them out, more frequently than the 80s, 90s, etc. |
That's similar to me but unlike you and most here, my teens were in the 80s. However, I don't listen to much 80s prog or 90s prog either for that matter (the two weakest decades for prog imo). I do plan on going back at some point and discovering some of the better (and more well known) ones from those decades and the 2000s also.
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