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Topic: IQ- Resistance
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: IQ- Resistance
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:46
I'm listening to this album now for the second time and I'm not sure yet what to think of it. It seems a bit dense or something. Multiple votes allowed.



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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 15:50
It's awful. Peter Nicholls singing is like fingers on a blackboard.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:03
I've never seen so many poll options for just one album. Tongue


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:05
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I've never seen so many poll options for just one album. Tongue

Well, it is a double album so.....Wink

Plus, you get your moneys worth with me. Tongue

Also, don't forget I've set it to multiple poll options so you can vote for three if you want. 


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:06
Ok, who said it's their best album? :)


Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:19
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, who said it's their best album? :)


I did.Wink   I love it.  Road Of Bones is a close second in my heart. 
Two of my top ten favorite albums since 2000.   I listen to one of them at least once a month. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:27
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, who said it's their best album? :)

I said it was their best album a while back, although I haven't voted in this poll yet, mainly because there are so many options to choose from. Smile


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:29
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, who said it's their best album? :)

I said it was their best album a while back, although I haven't voted in this poll yet, mainly because there are so many options to choose from. Smile

Sorry Paul. I don't mean to confuse anyone. I'll try not to have so many next time. Wink


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:30
For some reason, I could never get into IQ. I know they are good musicians, but their music never appealed to me, which I myself find quite weird.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 16:45
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, who said it's their best album? :)

I said it was their best album a while back, although I haven't voted in this poll yet, mainly because there are so many options to choose from. Smile

Sorry Paul. I don't mean to confuse anyone. I'll try not to have so many next time. Wink
I'm easily confused at my age. I have voted now though. I voted the same way as Cindy. Smile


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 17:00
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, who said it's their best album? :)

I said it was their best album a while back, although I haven't voted in this poll yet, mainly because there are so many options to choose from. Smile

Sorry Paul. I don't mean to confuse anyone. I'll try not to have so many next time. Wink
I'm easily confused at my age. I have voted now though. I voted the same way as Cindy. Smile

It's ok. I'm sometimes confused about why I'm confused. Tongue


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 17:13
Resistance is futile? No, resistance is inevitable.

I don't like to be negative, but at the same I would rather show my support for people's efforts at posting topics/polls than not post at all if I have the time, and I would hope that people would try to do the same for me. Or maybe not, and maybe I should just keep my mouth shut, but this does kind of fit with the options.

I had only heard bits and bobs going thought bits and pieces of the track, I have just done so again and based on my all too limited listening it sounds shallow, predictable, too slick production wise, and too AORish for me. And it seems to take this alt metal influence (correct me if I'm wrong) that I don't like. While I am not a fan of Neo-Prog, there is music I do like in the category. I would take the much maligned Nomzamo over this. I don't think it's a bad album per se but if anything maybe over-produced, does sound vapid to these ears, and the lyrics are annoying me, and it does not sound very innovative or original to these ears.

Voting other: Not listened to properly but clearly not my thing.

Conclusion: This album is much more resistible than irresistible.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 17:41
Other: Other

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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 17:54
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

For some reason, I could never get into IQ. I know they are good musicians, but their music never appealed to me, which I myself find quite weird.

I didn't get into IQ... till Road Of Bones.  Their last two albums amaze me.  IQ's previous albums don't grip me...for some reason.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 17:56
Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

I didn't get into IQ... till Road Of Bones.  Their last two albums amaze me.  IQ's previous albums don't grip me...for some reason.


Ever is excellent. Try that one, even if the early ones don't grab you.

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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 19:07
It’s very good. 
My ears dig it. 


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 23 2024 at 22:44
Tricky. It's always been a rollercoaster with this band for me. Their first 2 albums are great and pushed solidly back against the system of horrible overproduced music that was mostly the 80's. I adored Tales From The Lush Attic and The Wake and still like them it a lot. Then Nomzamo came and it was like being shot through the heart for me. They had joined the system and my last great hope for music had died. It was over 10 years later that I rediscovered them while looking through the 'I's at HMV and low and behold there was a new double album with interesting artwork (Subterranea). I retraced my steps with the missing 2 albums and enjoyed both Are You Sitting Comfortably and Ever. Ever was to become my favourite album by them.
Over the years I have pushed them a lot although you do get the 'Peter Nicholls is too winey' brigade who don't like them at all. On the whole they seem to have gained a massive amount of respect in the prog community. They never became big in any respect though and missed the main chance back in 1985 when Nicholls decided to leave and they simply couldn't replace him properly (Paul Menel being a pop singer and lyricist). Thankfullly Nicholls came back.
I enjoy most of their catologue. Martin Orford leaving in the 00's was a blow but he was eventually replaced by jazz fusion keyboard player Neil Durrant who like Orford is a quiet fellow but a tremendous talent. This is really his album and is playing and also brilliant programming and understanding of atmosphere and texture is second to none. Also worth noting that Paul Cook came back into the band (after Andy Edwards one album stint on Frequency) a better player. Road Of Bones is often seen as their best nowadays. Personally I put Resistance in their top five but not top three ( The Wake, Ever and Frequency occupy that). I would then put Tales From The Lush Attic at No 4 and then Resistance. It's a massive expansive work that needs a lot of commitment.
Looking foward to the next album which is scheduled (unofficially) for an early 2025 release. The two March dates at Bury are already sold out! This band progs on!


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 00:22
It's good but that's about it


Posted By: friso
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 02:00
It's an album that haunted me for months. I actually prefer the second halve (the last three sides of the lp). The Great Spirit Way is my favorite epic by IQ. As much as I love the album now, it was a very tough nut to crack at first. It sounds bleak, moody and brooding.

The only thing I don't like about it, is the heavy compressed sound, which makes it an unpleasant listen in the living room.


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Posted By: bender99
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 03:09
I really enjoy this album but it still wouldn't rank in my top 3 from IQ.

I guess i could best describe it as patchy.  I love the longer tracks on it, with the Great Spirit Way being probably by second favorite IQ track, but not all of the shorter are as impressive.

I see there's the option for "should've been a single album" and this is where I feel it gets tricky. I wouldn't mind losing a few tracks, but what I would keep would still run to more than a single CD.  


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 05:11
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 07:21
In fairness I need to give them another listen. What I have heard from them all sounds the same song-to-song from album to album. I'll give them another try...


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 07:29
Very Good

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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 08:44
Voted top 3 as I rank this their third best album behind Dark Matter and The Road of Bones. A bunch of minus signs fell out of my nose and now I can't subtract.

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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 24 2024 at 11:59
One of their best


Posted By: Duddick
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 01:00
For me IQ are one of those bands who seem to make the same album every time, just with the component bits slightly re-arranged. (cf Flower Kings and Ozrics). For me this isn’t one of their best - that would be Road of Bones.


Posted By: Disconnect
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 07:39
I had a copy on red vinyl, spinned it 3 or 4 times through, traded it in for store credit.  Resistance sounds to these ears like leftovers that failed to make the cut for Road of Bones.   

It would also be nice if someone told Peter Nicholls it is okay to write fewer lyrics.


Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 07:44
One of their best! Smile


Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 08:23
This album seems to have mixed responses. Maybe it's one of those "grower" albums. 


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 08:47
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

This album seems to have mixed responses. Maybe it's one of those "grower" albums. 
I liked Resistance instantly, the first time I heard it. Maybe Nomzamo is a "grower" too, although it hasn't taken root with me yet, but at least none of IQ's albums belong on the compost heap. Tongue


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 22:19
I’m a huge fan but this is by far their weakest album. Have tried and tried but it’s poor. TGSW was great at first but even my appreciation of that has faded.

This album scores 10/20, whereas all other albums by them score at least 18/20….

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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 22:36
Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

I’m a huge fan but this is by far their weakest album. Have tried and tried but it’s poor. TGSW was great at first but even my appreciation of that has faded.

This album scores 10/20, whereas all other albums by them score at least 18/20….

Very interesting. It just sounds dense to me. Most of their albums don't seem to suffer from inpenetrability this one does. Oh well, I'll keep trying I guess. I suppose I can always use it as background music. Confused


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 25 2024 at 23:52
Polarised opinion is not necessarily such a bad thing. Compared to say Brave or Tales From Topographic Oceans I would much rather listen to Resistance personally.


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:23
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Compared to say Brave or Tales From Topographic Oceans I would much rather listen to Resistance personally.

Yes, I find it very hard to believe that 18 people would prefer to listen to TfTO... Confused


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 01:27
second vote for:
"I like Subterranea better but it's still not bad". 


Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 02:58
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

second vote for:
"I like Subterranea better but it's still not bad". 

problem with this poll for me is there several categories I could have legitimately voted in... this is another one!


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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson


Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:08
I nearly voted for “it’s awful” but I stepped back from the brink🤣

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Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 09:08
“It’s boring” would sum it up for me actually

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