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Topic: 17 "V" List Acts and 8 "X" Rated ActsPosted By: Logan
Subject: 17 "V" List Acts and 8 "X" Rated Acts
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:19
V AND X combined
My masterlists based on what I know and like:
Vak * Van der Graaf Ganerator * Christian Vander * Vangelis * Vanishing Twin * Jean-Claude Vannier * The Velvet Underground * The Ventures * The Viola Crayola Violent Femmes * Miroslav Vitous * Adelbert von Deyen * Anna von Hausswolff * Voivod * Volapük * Volaré * Von Zamla * Vortex *
Not in my V list: Steve Vai, Vanilla Fudge, Vermilion Sands, Il Volo (been too long since I last listened)
X Legged Sally * Xaal * Xang * Xhol Caravan * Xhohx Xing Sa * Xiu Xiu * Bernard Xolotl * XTC *
Not in my X List: X Rated, X Rated Cowboys, and X Japan.
If applicable, please choose three acts, or more, or less, from this poll (from all Q and U options together) of some of my favourites to vote on and mention in a post, and please mention any of your own favourites. I encourage commentary and discussion on any that you think apply.
Note that not all in the poll and in the masterlist are included in PA's database (the majority are), but to me they are worth mentioning.
The Ventures album (The) Ventures in Space from 1963 is an I think terrific and something really special Surf Rock, Space Age Pop and Psych Rock album.
Vanishing Twin is an excellent Neo-Psych act of the Stereolab, Broadcast and Komeda variety. Stereolab is in PA which makes this all the more relevant to a Prog poll.
The Velvet Undergound is very much related to Prog to me (I especially like the album with Nico).
Violent Femmes is the one I would least expect in a Prog poll, but the first two albums are excellent and I related the Gothic Rock of Hallowed ground especially to various acts in PA. the other band not in is XTC and there have been some heated and polarised arguments over whether it should be in PA that often reminded me of the Monty Python argument sketch: "Yes it is", "No it isn't" and there were some more nuanced and balanced views. Of course so much depends on the release and what in PA you are relating it to, if anything.
Here are the past polls: https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133601" rel="nofollow - 8 "Q" and 18 "U" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133598" rel="nofollow - 26 "T" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133590" rel="nofollow - 25 "S" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133589" rel="nofollow - 25 "R" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133580" rel="nofollow - 28 "P" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133579" rel="nofollow - 27 "O" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133567" rel="nofollow - 27 "N" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133557" rel="nofollow - 25 "M" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133546" rel="nofollow - 25 "L" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133533" rel="nofollow - 25 "K" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133437" rel="nofollow - 25 "I and J" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133395" rel="nofollow - 25 "H" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133382" rel="nofollow - 29 "G" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133376" rel="nofollow - 26 "F" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133371" rel="nofollow - 25 "E" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133361" rel="nofollow - 26 "D" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133352" rel="nofollow - 25 "C" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133348" rel="nofollow - 25 "B" List Acts & https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133346" rel="nofollow - 25 "A" List Acts
Looking forward to seeing what people like on my poll and/or mentioned in this post, and what other favourites people have. I hope to maybe discover something from others thanks to this or be reminded of something that I genuinely forget (I usually do forget ones that I later think, ah, I should have included that or at least mentioned it in my OP).
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Replies: Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:31
VDGG, Vangelis, Andreas Vollenweider.... then:
Vanden Plas, Vulgar Unicorn, Vanishing Point, Venturia, Voyager and Vauxdvihl (one stunning album)...
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:41
Vangelis
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:42
Vangelis, XTC, and I would add Viima to the list...
Posted By: rik wilson
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:47
Many of these bands are great. Gotta go with Xing Sa; Xaal; and Volare. My favorite David Van Tieghem.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 12:54
For me, I'm a huge fan of 70's Van der Graaf Generator.
I love all of Anna von Hausswolff's albums.
And I adore Jean-Claude Vannier's L'enfant assassin des mouches so he gets a third vote. Vannier also was involved with Gainsbourg's Histoire de Melody Nelson which is one of my very favourite albums and has similarities.
Vortex is fantastic for both of its albums.
Vanishing Twin need a vote from as I adore them and have listened to it lots over the last few years.
Also Xiu Xiu is very important to me for Plays the Music of Twin Peaks especially.
And The Velvet Underground are great for multiple albums (I have played the one with Nico the most).
And also Miroslav Vitous; I adore Infinite Search.
I will hold off voting for now as I feel the need to vote for at least those eight which I can do per my guidelines if I wish, of course. Later I might choose three that have no votes as I of course like all in the poll.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 13:39
There's Vangelis and there's the rest!
But seriously, I do like Adelbert von Deyen, Volaré and Voivod.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 13:53
verslibre wrote:
Jared wrote:
Vauxdvihl (one stunning album)...
Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time! '90s flashback!
I doubt I'd listen to it much now... but LOVED it 20 years ago!
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 14:39
Van der Graaf Generator, Velvet Underground (Prog Related indeed, after all they invented Art Rock), Anna von Hausswolff.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 14:56
VDGG, XTC, Xang, a spoonful of Vangelis a few drops of Vitous and a slice of Volaré
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 14:57
No W between V and X ?
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 15:00
VDGG, Vangelis, and Xang. I demarcate my territory with wheat-scented parabolas.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 15:09
As far as I can tell, Adelbert von Deyen and Anna von Hausswolff don't belong here, as well as Ludwig van Beethoven.
------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 15:23
^ My understanding has been that rules on that are not universal. That said, I guess that's something for the Errors and Omisssions team to decide on. Prog Archives lists von Deyen and von Hausswolff under V. I love Anna equally if under H or V, and it's the music that matters most to me (but of course it is important for reference site to have standards and to try to be consistent).
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 19 2024 at 16:32
NotAProghead wrote:
As far as I can tell, Adelbert von Deyen and Anna von Hausswolff don't belong here, as well as Ludwig van Beethoven.
Those names go under V.
It's the same with Spanish & Italian surnames: "De" and "Di," etc.
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 00:13
I went with five this time, no order. Vortex Von Hausswolff VDGG Vak Xing Sa
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 00:13
A top two + a great third (but only two albums released)
1 Van der Graaf Generator 1 Vangelis 3 Vortex
The Velvet Underground Jean-Claude Vannier Miroslav Vitous Voivod Anna von Hausswolff + Vektor Video Liszt Edward Vesala
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 01:22
Vangelis and Xing Sa. One for each letter
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 03:41
Van der Graaf Generator, Vangelis and The Velvet Underground.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 04:25
verslibre wrote:
NotAProghead wrote:
As far as I can tell, Adelbert von Deyen and Anna von Hausswolff don't belong here, as well as Ludwig van Beethoven.
Those names go under V.
It's the same with Spanish & Italian surnames: "De" and "Di," etc.
I suppose Americans/Canadians do. But I'm quite certain that the norm in most places, is to use the first capitalized word: as in "H" not "v" for von Hausswolff. RYM files her under H, and so do I. The Dutch would not file a von under "v". That would be absurd. And would anyone file Beethoven under "v"?
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 04:41
Vak * Van der Graaf Ganerator * Christian Vander * Violent Femmes * Volapük * Volaré * Von Zamla * Vortex *
X Legged Sally * Xaal * Xing Sa *
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Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 06:28
Van Der Graaf Generator
XTC
Vangelis
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 06:34
Vangelis and VDGG from this list.
I would add Vespero as well.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 09:24
While there are at least eight that I would really like to vote for, VdGG and Vortex already have significant numbers of votes (especially VdGG, not surprisingly).
I have given the first and perhaps it will be the only vote for Vanishing Twin.
I have shared this before, but If I were to choose one song that made me a fan it would be "Cryonic Suspension Saved MY Life" and The Age of Immunology was my first album by the band. I adore this kind of Stereolab-ish and Broadcast-ish Neo-Psyche, and it has great groove.
Love this version of it:
And Of course I have to give a vote to Anna von Hauswolff -- adore her albums. Can be so atmospheric, dramatic, as well as quite simple and lovely.
As for the under v or H, I think it depends on the style you follow in Canada. I have worked for a university and different department often used different formating/ categorisational styles. It does depend on the region and the style one adopts. That;s something for the E&O team to decide perhaps and then bring forward for greater approval, and it was brought up by a member of that team. I followed the way that Prog Archives itself now categorises it. Such stuff isn't of as much interest to me personally as it once was, much more interested in what music people like, but of course it is very important for an archive to follow a consistent and common standard, and this is a very international site. I have thought that putting von under V is more of an American thing from what I recall.
And for a third vote I will go with Jean-Claude Vannier for his debut album, L'enfant assassin des mouches based on an idea by Serge Gainsbourg (and I say , based on melodies originally whistled by Garth Marenghi*). Vannier was involved with Serge Gainsbourg's great Histoire de Melody Nelson as arranger and music director as well as playing piano, organ, harmonium.... Those two albums work well as companion pieces.
*If you don't know your Garth Marenghi, you're in more of a dark place than I.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 20 2024 at 23:22
VDGG, Vangelis and XTC. The latter I only own English Settlement but they are from my home town (Swindon) and by far the most famous band from those parts. Vangelis is probably my favourite solo artist. VDGG are slowly becoming a favourite although I have the same problem with them that I have with Tull that I think they didn't majorly develop or evolve after 1971 when they released what I consider to be their definitive masterpieces. VDGG seemed to be more 'self aware' and at least left it a few years before the next album. On top of that they never released a stinking pile of pooh like so many prog bands did after 1977 just choosing not to bother at all. Kudos for that.
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 21 2024 at 05:49
VDGG (old)
Viovod
Some V artists
Vanilla Fudge
Vanden Plas
Vent D'Est
Vola
Votum
Voyager
Vangough
Vox Tempus
Voice Among The Many
Vortex
Valerinne
Vers'Over
Vauxdvihl
Veni Domine
Some X artists
Xen
Xystus
Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 21 2024 at 14:35
It's an absolute shame and oversight on the part of PA that XTC are not part of Crossover Prog category.
They are far more progressive and instrumentally proficient than The Beatles ever were. This needs to be addressed at some point.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: September 21 2024 at 14:45
VDGG, Anna von Hausswolff, and Vanishing Twin. There you see, they have another vote!
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 21 2024 at 22:36
Dr. Occulator wrote:
It's an absolute shame and oversight on the part of PA that XTC are not part of Crossover Prog category.
They are far more progressive and instrumentally proficient than The Beatles ever were. This needs to be addressed at some point.
It's a tricky one for me. I believe their association with the British New Wave/ Post Punk scene leaves them a little bit outlying in the scheme of things. I would see it as letting the door slightly ajar for the likes of The Stranglers and Siousxie and The Banshees who were also very creative artists of that time if they were included. Time lines and trends are quite important as far as I'm concerned and I don't hear any great link to prog rock in their music personally, in fact I would even put The Stranglers ahead of them in terms of inclusion to the site (Greenfield was a self confessed 'proggy'). Great band though.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: September 22 2024 at 02:16
Voted for VDGG, XTC, and Voivod.
A mention goes to Vespero.
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 26 2024 at 07:24
VDGG Vak X-Legged Sally
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