Prog debuts!
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Topic: Prog debuts!
Posted By: cstack3
Subject: Prog debuts!
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 12:30
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Many times, upon going back, I realize that the debut albums of our favorite bands contained some amazing music, displays of virtuosity, and creative writing! Examples include ITCOTCK, first ELP LP and so forth. Recently, I found this live Yes track of "Survival" from their first album, and I went back to explore that effort. There is some AMAZING music on that first disc, including Squire's very aggressive bass playing, lush vocal harmonies (even Peter Banks sings backup!) and great songwriting! Back then, I was listening to the Monkees  What is your favorite prog debut? Check this out: ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 12:55
| Nova Collective - The Further Side |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 13:57
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Some of the most impressive debut albums (besides KC): ELO: ELO I Gentle G: GG Moodies: DoFP Mahavishnus: tIMF M Oldfield: TB I'm reluctant to include ELP's, being as they were all established, successful artists by this time. One I would single out would be Camel's debut, especially the remastered CD, which has Pete's 'Homage To The God Of Light' on... 20 mins of fabulous jam... every home should have one. ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 14:22
That's not their debut album though. -Here's ten that stand out to me as classics right out of the gate (besides KC). I only include bands that had a recording career of sorts: Magma - Magma/Kobaïa Nektar - Journey to the Centre of the Eye Premiata Forneria Marconi - Storia di un Minuto Weather Report - St Area - Arbeit Macht Frei Captain Beefheart - Safe As Milk Nucleus - Elastic Rock Bo Hansson - Sagan om Ringen Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant -I'm sure I could think of many more, but this will do for now. |
Jared wrote:Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 14:39
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I'm very fond of Barclay James Harvest's debut lp, Procol harum's first, The Nice Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack and Hawkwind's first. ------------- |
Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 14:42
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ITCOCK, ELP s/t, and TB are peeress as stunning debut albums (IMO) - many artists don't properly get into their stride until around the 3rd or 4th album. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 15:08
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Ars Nova – Fear & Anxiety Al Di Meola – Land of the Midnight Sun Brand X – Unorthodox Behaviour Colosseum II – Strange New Flesh Dream Theater – When Dream and Day Unite ELP – S/T Michael Garrison – In the Regions of Sunreturn Goblin – Profondo Rosso Jan Hammer – The First Seven Days (It really is the first album released under his name with no "Group/Trio/Project" next to it.) IQ – Tales from the Lush Attic Kansas – S/T King Crimson – In the Court of the Crimson King King's X – Out of the Silent Planet Kitaro – Ten Kai (Astral Trip) Tony Levin – World Diary Pendragon – The Jewel Roger Powell – Cosmic Furnace Rainbow – Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow Saga – S/T Santana – S/T Steve Roach – Now Synergy – Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra Twelfth Night – Live at the Target [Todd Rundgren's] Utopia – S/T Zombi – Cosmos ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 15:13
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Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 15:50
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I have two favourite debut albums: Split Enz - Mental Notes Nektar - Journey to the Centre of the Eye ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 16:59
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The first Roxy Music album! Man, just for If There Is Something.....whadda record! Yes! Man, I dig Peter Banks' sound paired with Bruford's jazzy drumming and Squire's twang.....whadda debut! Weather Report.....spooky first album. Zawinul took that In a Silent Way approach and expanded it.....that LP covers says everything about just how far they expanded! Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom.....what can you say? Music saved our Robert. Can's Monster Movie.....maybe 'cause I just had it on in the car and You Do Right hit just right. The Mooney LPs are sometimes overlooked.....they're a heart full of soul! ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 17:03
As Goblin, technically. Cherry Five (Oliver) was released the same year. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: HelloProg!
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 17:43
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 17:55
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FM - Black Noise Änglagård - Hybris |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 18:05
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The ELP debut Spock's Beard - The Light The Flower Kings - Back in the World of Adventures (the first proper TFK album) King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King (kind of an obvious one) Gentle Giant - Same (rather underrated imo) IQ - Tales of the Lush Attic Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Same PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto Camel - Same Transatlantic - SMPT:e Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial Family - Music From a Doll's House (at least as much of prog as PF's PATGOD) Änglagård - Hybris Anekdoten - Vemod Happy the Man - Same |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 18:08
That's Land of the Midnight Sun buddy.
 Good pick though. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 18:29
Good catch. Sometimes I type too fast for my own good. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 18:55
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Comus - First Utterance Hatfield & The North - s/t Shub-Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite Art Zoyd - Symphonie Pour Le Jour Ou Bruleront Les Cités Henry Cow - Legend King Crimson - ITCOTCK Present - Triskaidekaphobie Univers Zero - 1313 ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 20:30
I guess if you only have one album, and it's killer, that counts.
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 20:41
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My favourite prog debut: Supertramp (self titled) A bit different in style than Crime of the Century. I would call it a bit more 'crimsonesque'  ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 23:02
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 23:18
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I just edited my list to add these ten: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso - Same PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto Camel - Same Transatlantic - SMPT:e Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial Family - Music In a Doll's House (at least as much of prog as PF's PATGOD) Änglagård - Hybris Anekdoten - Vemod Happy the Man - Same Also, not to be too nitpicky but DOFP was not the first MB album. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 23:36
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in terms of it being my favourite album by the artist Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives Of Henry VIII (although but for The Breathalyser I would like Criminal Record just as much) Peter Gabriel - Car (although tied with IO) Kansas - Kansas Lifesigns - Lifesigns Anglagard - Hybris 'Perfect' debut albums but not necessarily my favourites ELP - ELP Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene Kate Bush - The Kick Inside IQ - Tales From The Lush Attic Par Lindh Project - Gothic Impressions |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 17 2024 at 23:38
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^I forgot all about PG's debut and also RW and Kansas.
Another good one is the first David Gilmour album.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 00:05
OP here - Thanks, everyone, this is great!!  A few of my personal favorites include: Captain Beyond, s/t Uriah Heep, "Very Eavy....Very 'Umble" (US release had the amazing song "Bird of Prey") Styx, s/t Starcastle, s/t Flash, s/t Having been around a number of bands that were recording their debut LP, I know that the energy runs very high in the studio!! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 00:07
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Posted By: Sir Prog-a-lot
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 01:52
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Family - Music In a Doll's House Caravan - Caravan Fantasy - Paint a Picture Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow Steve Hillage - Fish Rising Goblin - Profondo Rosso (Colonna Sonora Originale Del Film) Lenny White - Venusian Summer Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte Utopia - Todd Rundgren's Utopia Tako - Tako
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 02:47
These ones are great indeed.
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 04:16
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Top 100 Amazing British Prog Debuts  1984: Abel Ganz - Gratuitous Flash - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZxsS9xKBm3HCPO8bTIHEUX" rel="nofollow - 1976: Absolute Elsewhere - In Search of Ancient Gods - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1PWRzBzSJLiAbHJyBuTavdm5_RF1v3Vs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1PWRzBzSJLiAbHJyBuTavdm5_RF1v3Vs 2006: Also Eden - About Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9DPta7d5abpyDiZpy14V3hIBfNKrj4bs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9DPta7d5abpyDiZpy14V3hIBfNKrj4bs 1976: Jon Anderson - Olias of Sunhillow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MdPa3vbmz8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MdPa3vbmz8 1969: Andromeda - Andromeda - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG-InimcgCwN45hHqKeahnS0Yy2IxCDUy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLG-InimcgCwN45hHqKeahnS0Yy2IxCDUy 1995: Arena - Songs from the Lion's Cage - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWD3neilwkfPLXcOKjQnp8aET0I1Ym9sM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mWD3neilwkfPLXcOKjQnp8aET0I1Ym9sM 1975: Armageddon - Armageddon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m94hVwOUJvzqDmpw4CtkhVhyhuo7PjVzA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m94hVwOUJvzqDmpw4CtkhVhyhuo7PjVzA 1969: Arzachel - Arzachel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRW8bkl33yU 1969: Axe - Music - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLrMVonyKv_BLDYQtWvsod_cS9jg5iwso" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLrMVonyKv_BLDYQtWvsod_cS9jg5iwso 1973: Bachdenkel - Lemmings - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nsvlwdGUVwpVC_3fsiewkboTcNd6zmKVs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nsvlwdGUVwpVC_3fsiewkboTcNd6zmKVs 1979: Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaZNDtZYIu_lPp8J6V-yV58" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaZNDtZYIu_lPp8J6V-yV58 1970: Peter Bardens - The Answer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyHE7zQoGE 1970: Beggars Opera - Act One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKyuhcIPapo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKyuhcIPapo 1970: Black Widow - Sacrifice - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCJV2Yu1bXA4qY7xWpr0NR67MmDFM5QTE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCJV2Yu1bXA4qY7xWpr0NR67MmDFM5QTE 1968: Canterbury Glass - Sacred Scenes and Characters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG6wb3xyVYyAjMwqVvz1Z9mYGVSz8Q4g4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nG6wb3xyVYyAjMwqVvz1Z9mYGVSz8Q4g4 1972: Capability Brown - From Scratch - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lj2GSV2oE3RtIYj-_JAV1UpJbHBhYm3Ik" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lj2GSV2oE3RtIYj-_JAV1UpJbHBhYm3Ik 1974: Captain Marryat - Captain Marryat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anYEEQrX20" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anYEEQrX20 1971: Catapilla - Catapilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAWCAuqa-Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tAWCAuqa-Q 1969: Circus - Circus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMh58tYKpD4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMh58tYKpD4 1974: Cirkus - One - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrWDo41Be0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKrWDo41Be0 1970: Cressida - Cressida - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9fDZtPgzwM8vNqIqHXuTrPw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9fDZtPgzwM8vNqIqHXuTrPw 1993: Cyan - For King and Country - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacxgQvJe8A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wacxgQvJe8A 1972: Dancer - Tales of the Riverbank - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtitA1jS2Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtitA1jS2Q 1972: Brian Davison's Every Which Way - Every Which Way (Prog Related) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qFDNGdTdI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9qFDNGdTdI 1987: Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEapk1L5x6Xvsc0u4w1rIcMr" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEapk1L5x6Xvsc0u4w1rIcMr 1975: Druid - Toward the Sun - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4rmrkSQ06We95r0H32RVo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Ls4rmrkSQ06We95r0H32RVo 1969: East of Eden - Mercator Projected - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ke4xIXppBK3D8_-4roOJnGX-7CkaEfm74" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ke4xIXppBK3D8_-4roOJnGX-7CkaEfm74 2011: Edison's Children - In the Last Waking Moments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEb_s6dSYhR2sUilYyHWZW6y 1970: Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LupA_HcmerhVcS72ZRm6z5f" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LupA_HcmerhVcS72ZRm6z5f 1977: England - Garden Shed - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaT-1ortTQhaloS45Gk2rV-" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEaT-1ortTQhaloS45Gk2rV- 1976: The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdU5MQKDXsk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdU5MQKDXsk 1973: Fantasy - Paint a Picture - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLn9olqC2rMHQwL7wWMmAqk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLn9olqC2rMHQwL7wWMmAqk 2011: Sean Filkins - War and Peace & Other Short Stories 1973: Fruupp - Future Legends - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDWM3mS4bcdNf6txuuhQE1ZwNqJyrlVn4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mDWM3mS4bcdNf6txuuhQE1ZwNqJyrlVn4 1971: Fuchsia - Fuchsia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Ge5jbctAk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Ge5jbctAk 2011: Gandalf's Fist - Road to Darkness - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_km3KriKEylCFxHIXbixIqEfc_I2Sec_Nc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_km3KriKEylCFxHIXbixIqEfc_I2Sec_Nc 1970: The Ghost - When You're Dead - One Second - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxKT6ZtYAcRCxj0aV-A0jiTku8Kljj4L8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kxKT6ZtYAcRCxj0aV-A0jiTku8Kljj4L8 2022: Ghost of the Machine - Scissorgames - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lyfddS1ZU-lYFqCPo6BbmV5fRUlW6AsXQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lyfddS1ZU-lYFqCPo6BbmV5fRUlW6AsXQ 1978: David Gilmour - David Gilmour - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lN1y8ZQU3IBWc0I0le3slF86aT_oG3jho" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lN1y8ZQU3IBWc0I0le3slF86aT_oG3jho 1968: The Gods - Genesis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kKewXemZGvb6ClosLqtUdDu_zwCpjzvnM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kKewXemZGvb6ClosLqtUdDu_zwCpjzvnM 1970: The Greatest Show On Earth - Horizons - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CaYHAcNe1ftTHRrIr6IsVE3n2haQaQ6" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8CaYHAcNe1ftTHRrIr6IsVE3n2haQaQ6 1972: Nicholas Greenwood - Cold Cuts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWP9qeM8_0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWP9qeM8_0 1972: Gringo - Gringo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weh0SXhJ1iE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weh0SXhJ1iE 1968: The Gun - Gun - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hP0G-7zaM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hP0G-7zaM 1975: Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mT7tituNqt2sSKa8TwVv2p6XJ7kdVn51I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mT7tituNqt2sSKa8TwVv2p6XJ7kdVn51I 1971: Hallelujah - Hallelujah Babe - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKqD2atrRo-4gGEXLaz1B_K8RHZkksBUI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nKqD2atrRo-4gGEXLaz1B_K8RHZkksBUI 1973: Ken Hensley - Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_keNEV6L1KU8YFfo40oB4bCTANhI5xxHzI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_keNEV6L1KU8YFfo40oB4bCTANhI5xxHzI 1977: Illusion - Out of the Mist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_ScOjrdOUxT21PJoTWo6T7vfcB9VvIkE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_ScOjrdOUxT21PJoTWo6T7vfcB9VvIkE 1971: Indian Summer - Indian Summer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=outeMg7vQY0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=outeMg7vQY0 1972: Janus - Gravedigger - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-sM5jaIhX6ng9YKO886qcwsOLTcKit_g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l-sM5jaIhX6ng9YKO886qcwsOLTcKit_g 1969: Jody Grind - One Step On - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jij3QGYVVes" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jij3QGYVVes 1975: Justin Hayward & John Lodge - Blue Jays - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4qgULCZHCwI3C39IGo3ZAFW7TCpLa1MM" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4qgULCZHCwI3C39IGo3ZAFW7TCpLa1MM 1999: Janison Edge - The Services of Mary Goode - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB21013D2A0BD780" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFB21013D2A0BD780 2007: Iain Jennings' Breathing Space - Coming Up for Air - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m-k1G3-5l988MDK_6ixN0gjIPx7MuQxOw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m-k1G3-5l988MDK_6ixN0gjIPx7MuQxOw 1970: Julian's Treatment - A Time Before This - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTD9SWyXtvk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTD9SWyXtvk 1970: Justine - Justine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1O5W3Dc3bQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1O5W3Dc3bQ 2021: Tony Kaye - End of Innocence - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCjy2OnDnLX9XloXHOdwVCAZgPohqHFaw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mCjy2OnDnLX9XloXHOdwVCAZgPohqHFaw 1972: Khan - Space Shanty - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neCfaRIj9J2aZKoMS909hNhdmCxafD_fo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_neCfaRIj9J2aZKoMS909hNhdmCxafD_fo 1969: King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXhfRoiJBIiuXOUv_7EJ1i7UKj0aGfy0U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXhfRoiJBIiuXOUv_7EJ1i7UKj0aGfy0U 2001: The Lens - A Word in Your Eye - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEs0csmtUHITQTGYRw_-dYe8ehlYJMRKc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nEs0csmtUHITQTGYRw_-dYe8ehlYJMRKc 2012: Francis Lickerish - Far and Forgot: From the Lost Lands - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kq-pjlZUbHbWHat5VafAgRa4jb9t9rILI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kq-pjlZUbHbWHat5VafAgRa4jb9t9rILI 2013: Lifesigns - Lifesigns - https://lifesigns1.bandcamp.com/album/lifesigns" rel="nofollow - http://lifesigns1.bandcamp.com/album/lifesigns 1977: John Lodge - Natural Avenue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIzw8msU0mgCodmY3dQkzII" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIzw8msU0mgCodmY3dQkzII 1972: Jon Lord - Gemini Suite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmPgVFk5GlxW7MP1dzLvG0qPlc46L4oBA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nmPgVFk5GlxW7MP1dzLvG0qPlc46L4oBA 1974: Loudest Whisper - The Children of Lir - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3Vw_Y7pMiUZxN0mFZlzT7vuhijH4TLLw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n3Vw_Y7pMiUZxN0mFZlzT7vuhijH4TLLw 2001: Magenta - Revolutions - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpIe3T-MrH1EqR942YNj9Pwr 1975: Mandalaband - Mandalaband - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lclnCvwOa3UOJNZ0hF8xuLw-8swObP054" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lclnCvwOa3UOJNZ0hF8xuLw-8swObP054 1983: Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYO9m_YiZnLF4CPjxkF2Cam" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEYO9m_YiZnLF4CPjxkF2Cam 1970: Marsupilami - Marsupilami - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myAl5Hq7MikJkxdE1HEY2k7yUYoIKVpY4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_myAl5Hq7MikJkxdE1HEY2k7yUYoIKVpY4 1970: May Blitz - May Blitz - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9eD9V-z88mzoIESk7_YqIaV" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVvqgURy2L9eD9V-z88mzoIESk7_YqIaV 2021: Mobius - Make the Promise - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSypwUCKRF1oaWUVq0MbATMjB5kVRbxDA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSypwUCKRF1oaWUVq0MbATMjB5kVRbxDA 1967: The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kH3L9CRYvGAW2D1bj_2vx0JYvSpe74Wvw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kH3L9CRYvGAW2D1bj_2vx0JYvSpe74Wvw 1995: Moria Falls - The Long Goodbye - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2Fwlcd0Zg4WGzssV9sUtU_lI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2Fwlcd0Zg4WGzssV9sUtU_lI 1998: Mostly Autumn - For All We Shared - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZZGWIfFT6kVSIhBY4ZgDEL" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEZZGWIfFT6kVSIhBY4ZgDEL 2005: Ian Neal - All in the Golden Afternoon - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSVBIPU_lD7Jh64WGxxzbwKHdMAzolFBo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lSVBIPU_lD7Jh64WGxxzbwKHdMAzolFBo 2013: Neon Leaves - Cinema Verite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngE_4a86Iw-yhH_eJ0ezQrPA9moA_Ci7A" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ngE_4a86Iw-yhH_eJ0ezQrPA9moA_Ci7A 1971: Nektar - Journey to the Centre of the Eye - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynjoDkG1vw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynjoDkG1vw 1999: Clive Nolan & Oliver Wakeman - Jabberwocky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRNzuC_raR9uuKARO42tGdSHYyL3Wn79g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRNzuC_raR9uuKARO42tGdSHYyL3Wn79g 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0 1984: Pallas - The Sentinel - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLcpeZ4mTlBspQfPJcAsh94" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLcpeZ4mTlBspQfPJcAsh94 1972: The Parlour Band - Is a Friend? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkZpxz2uMU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkZpxz2uMU 1976: The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination (Crossover Prog) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNCAUSEhegqjQAMMocw1QFu9G-bE4zeTM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNCAUSEhegqjQAMMocw1QFu9G-bE4zeTM 1973: Peggy's Leg - Grinilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLlWZ2pPKI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLlWZ2pPKI 1977: Anthony Phillips - The Geese and the Ghost - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lgdg15vMyGQO3dBj0h075-2csAyvKeowI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lgdg15vMyGQO3dBj0h075-2csAyvKeowI 1967: Procol Harum - Procol Harum - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK8kMQKJM2iH8izvBKsvD4Oy" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbIN9DHtOfK8kMQKJM2iH8izvBKsvD4Oy 1969: Pussy - Pussy Plays - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGqnjEkfTg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGqnjEkfTg 1970: Quatermass - Quatermass - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4JYseU0yrw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4JYseU0yrw 1974: Quicksand - Home is Where I Belong - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhE3_E9MhkQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhE3_E9MhkQ 2004: Rain - Cerulean Blue - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_llh-RNbQFwAatOKHs0CizWhACM0F6WqA8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_llh-RNbQFwAatOKHs0CizWhACM0F6WqA8 1969: Rare Bird - Rare Bird - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvK5vQsU60ak-yGesZp3Yen" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvK5vQsU60ak-yGesZp3Yen 1970: Raw Material - Raw Material - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLZWRIZm4ZoZpvGIOG5H9bF" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLZWRIZm4ZoZpvGIOG5H9bF 1974: Refugee - Refugee - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGfb2R92OHul6B1GBr1niUp0JyGGEqLzT" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGfb2R92OHul6B1GBr1niUp0JyGGEqLzT 1971: Salamander - The Ten Commandments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78A8FiJQ0g" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78A8FiJQ0g 1992: Shadowland - Ring of Roses - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2FyMLUHMRIWmHktMQbr8gUcH" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsV4W_eKY2FyMLUHMRIWmHktMQbr8gUcH 1971: Spring - Spring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmY-ootwxm4" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmY-ootwxm4 1975: Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXJGLyAKLJKuc4-KSIMYxAruaWtvgXNrE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXJGLyAKLJKuc4-KSIMYxAruaWtvgXNrE 1972: Steel Mill - Green Eyed God - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4tlavVaaoraTQShCyNqW4uDDf7TytK8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx4tlavVaaoraTQShCyNqW4uDDf7TytK8 1971: Still Life - Still Life - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunQ509r60Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunQ509r60Q 1990: Strangers on a Train - The Key, Part 1: The Prophecy - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoR8LJsW2w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXoR8LJsW2w 1972: Sunday - Sunday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oft6x5AinJI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oft6x5AinJI 2018: Michael Alan Taylor - Avalonia (The Sonnets of Guinevere) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXkEL6wWKJh_UyirC6BwLqdd_2IAyJdUs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXkEL6wWKJh_UyirC6BwLqdd_2IAyJdUs 2017: This Winter Machine - The Man Who Never Was - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2rDKk0-Mo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY2rDKk0-Mo 1975: Ray Thomas - From Mighty Oaks - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLloI0x5-W8WlJXMfMezYag" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLloI0x5-W8WlJXMfMezYag 2014: Tiger Moth Tales - Cocoon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6Yu9u24yg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6Yu9u24yg 1970: Titus Groan - Titus Groan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yT8Q531GA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yT8Q531GA 1971: Tonton Macoute - Tonton Macoute - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpoajyKcyo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBpoajyKcyo 1978: U.K. - U.K. - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsK_9sobf6Rya7Ktl9xSA59" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LsK_9sobf6Rya7Ktl9xSA59 2014: Unto Us - The Human Landscape - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpXLFJcuVdKUalr7akZJnFo75tdtIMgxo" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kpXLFJcuVdKUalr7akZJnFo75tdtIMgxo 1973: Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZowz5527OrFUPTS44Xpuc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtZowz5527OrFUPTS44Xpuc 1973: Darryl Way's Wolf - Canis Lupus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9grrUQYUqv2jmNwaXiMyk0lBdmbFoWU0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k9grrUQYUqv2jmNwaXiMyk0lBdmbFoWU0 2005: Willowglass - Willowglass - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXZYZ2alpNPcPWl0u9k0X8llnDwWeSj8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXZYZ2alpNPcPWl0u9k0X8llnDwWeSj8 1980: Woolly Wolstenholme & Maestoso - Uneasy Listening (Eclectic Prog) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS--foGRmQujWGvy2tpkDMUIjX9F_xwhQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mS--foGRmQujWGvy2tpkDMUIjX9F_xwhQ 1978: Richard Wright - Wet Dream (Crossover Prog) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJIoRLgDK6z61RmX1trrdtPFVfYC24thP" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJIoRLgDK6z61RmX1trrdtPFVfYC24thP 1969: Writing on the Wall - Power of the Picts - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mXEQJubcY7JTh7GRyD1A5OFrYHq1GwZm0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mXEQJubcY7JTh7GRyD1A5OFrYHq1GwZm0 |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 05:48
Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U. Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino Mike Keneally - Hat Wippy Bonstack - Dataland The Aristocrats - s/t Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-Existent Places Bubblemath - Such Fine Particles of the Universe Steely Dan - Can't Buy A Thrill Animals As Leaders - s/t Brand X - Unorthodox Behaviour Pat Metheny Group - s/t Marco Minnemann - The Green Mindbomb Riverside - Out Of Myself Frost* - Milliontown U.K. - s/t |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 06:16
These are really good.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 09:50
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Question: Which was the Genesis debut? "From Genesis to Revelation" or "Trespass"? The latter is surely the stronger LP! Also, many of these bands had "proto-debut" LPs. For example, "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp" clearly led into ITCOTCK! Great discussion everyone!! Paul, thanks for the amazing list! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 10:22
I was going to mention Captain Beyond but wasn't sure if it was prog enough. Great album though.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 10:25
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^^For me it's very simple. The debut is the first album released by the specific artist or band. The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles & Fripp isn't the band King Crimson, but From Genesis to Revelation is released by Genesis - the band. That's why to me In the Court of the Crimson King is the former bands debut - and Trespass is the latter band's second album. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 10:27
Thanks for reminding me that it's Music In A Doll's House and not From. I'll have to go fix that.
I know of the others on your list but haven't heard them so I'll have to check them out. The Jon Anderson and Steve Hackett are both great though and worthy of inclusion for sure. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 10:39
Yes and I can understand why people say DOFP is the first Moody Blues album (even the band themselves considered it to be) but really it isn't because they had some of the same members plus the name is the same. Otherwise the first Renaissance album isn't Renaissance and also you could say Genesis didn't start until Trespass or Nursery Cryme and Yes didn't start until the Yes album but then it starts to get a bit silly.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 10:40
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 13:53
-An album released by the record company without permission from the artist is such a rare exception from "my rule", that is doesn't have an impact on how I think. But I agree that it doesn't count, as it's not the artists own album creation.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 14:00
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Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 14:03
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Yep in my book an E.P. (occasionally known as a maxi-single) contains 3-6 tracks and plays for around 10-20 minutes (i.e longer than the traditional 7" single). An album usually clocks in at 30+ minutes... anything in between can probably be described as a mini-album. Although it's not hard and fast, and indeed gets more intriguing them more you delve into it. ------------- 'We're going to need a bigger swear jar.' |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 14:08
As far as a "proto-debut" LP, I would include Jethro Tull's This Was from 1968. It may have been the first album under that band name, but it was more of a collaboration in blues-rock and jazz with Mick Abrahams and Ian Anderson sharing the spotlight. It wasn't until 1969's Stand Up that we get the truer prog direction of the band. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 14:11
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Lots of debuts I love, for for a long running band with many albums, Kobaïa cannot be beaten for me. Magma has been going for 55 years, released lots of great albums, and that double-album from 1970 still can't be beat for me. A remarkable debut from a remarkable band. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 15:48
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The greatest of them all is Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells. Some others worth mentioning (not necessarily my fave by the band or artist): Alquin - Marks Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes Deluge Grander - August in the Urals Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left ELP - s/t Hamadryad - Conservation of Mass Kayak - See See the Sun Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn Shamblemaths - s/t Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico ------------- 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 15:55
And you could say the same thing about Genesis with Trespass and maybe even Yes with TYA but unfortunately a band doesn't get to retroactively state what their debut album was.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 17:18
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One could argue that the "Prog debut" of a band is not the first album necessarily, but the first album by a band that is Prog. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 17:35
You know, I hadn't really thought of that. I guess I'll take back some of the things I said earlier then.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 22:04
Very good point! I still think the first album by Yes is progressive enough to qualify, Squire's bass playing is remarkable, and Peter Banks also lights it up! In the classic era (late 1960s to early 1970s), launching a band and recording that first LP is quite different than these days. Most of the famous prog bands were VERY young musicians, and attracted label support by the strength of their live act and club following. Hence the famous "living on the tour bus" stories we all hear about! Landing a radio single was always a goal, and some bands like King Crimson just never got there. Therefore, these first debut albums were often rather rough, sometimes hurried, and not necessarily as polished as when the musicians had chances to gel with each other. I went through this a bit with Starcastle, who recruited their vocalist, Terry Lutrell, from another local Champaign Illinois band REO Speedwagon. (REO went on to wealth and fame, and Starcastle, well, not so much!). I think this is an interesting topic of discussion! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: Sir Prog-a-lot
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 22:56
The album itself is not bad at all; on the contrary, it had a raw energy like none of his later albums, and those acoustic tracks are fantastic. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 18 2024 at 23:30
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Part of the "charm" if you will for me, is that while some bands
needs to grow, change and reinvent themselves while members come and go,
others nail it "from day one"*. In early Yes, Tull and Genesis you can
easily hear the building blocks
and understand how and why they became the bands we "know and love" (and
I enjoy all of these first releases anyway). Isn't it interesting and
rewarding listening to any band that metamorfs from relatively promising
but patchy and unfinished - to greatness whether it's Please, Please
Me>Rubber Soul, The Magnificent Moodies>Days of Future Passed,
Pablo Honey>Ok Computer...? An early lesser album doesn't take away
any of the later achievements (quite the contrary) and neither does the
first classic or first proggy album, remove their "false starts". *obviously not how it works, but you know what I mean, don't you? |
Posted By: Sir Prog-a-lot
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 00:29
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Posted By: HelloProg!
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 00:59
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Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 07:49
| I would add FM's Black Noise |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 08:33
Which is odd considering it was their first one. Maybe it was their proggiest because it had mellotron on it? I only know their first two so I can't really judge too well.
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 09:23
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Posted By: Zeph
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 10:51
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Lots of older ones has been mentioned, so I'll try some more recent offerings. Black Country, New Road - For The First Time black midi - Cavalcade Squid - Bright Green Field Seven Impale - City of the Sun Kate Bush - The Kick Inside Univers Zero - Univers Zero
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Posted By: Sir Prog-a-lot
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 11:35
As CTI Records was a label known for its high-quality jazz recordings and for promoting artists who pushed the boundaries of jazz music, the fact that "Velvet Darkness" was released and distributed by a reputable label as CTI really indicated that "Velvet Darkness" as a release had official backing and support from the music industry at that time. Also, "Velvet Darkness" saw several reissues, both on CTI Records and other labels like King Records (Japan) and Talking Elephant (UK). Therefore, "Velvet Darkness" is not a bootleg but an officially released album, and hence it is listed on all reliable sites as Allan Holdsworth's first solo record. |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 11:51
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^And here is an excerpt from a 1993 Innerviews interview with Allan that states the opposite. I didn't know you had Velvet Darkness pulled. It was no good. It was never any good. The way it was recorded, what happened to the musicians, the whole thing. It was a complete disaster. It was terrible at that time and that makes it terrible today. It's one thing to say I'll look back to that old I.O.U. album and go "Well, it sounds pretty old, and maybe I don't like it as much as the other stuff." But, the fact was that it was what it is then and it was okay then and everybody accepted that to be the fact at that time. That was not true of Velvet Darkness. That album was never fit to be released. Nobody got to hear anything they did. I never got a tape of anything that was recorded. And we were actually rehearsing in the studio and they were rolling the tape while we were rehearsing on the premise that we'd be able to keep recording and also check things out, but that never happened. At the end of that day, the guy said "Thanks, see ya!" That's why a lot of those tunes don't have any endings—they were rehearsals. That was a complete rip-off. I never saw any royalties from the album. And that's the main reason it got it stopped. They didn't have a contract. They didn't have any publishing. They didn't have the rights to anything. This happens all the time. There are bootlegs all over the place—exactly the same thing. Epic records bought the whole CTI catalog from someone and put out that 1990 CD. That album's been bootlegged three times. Each time I think, "Great, that's the end of that one." But it showed up again. It keeps showing up! But now that it's owned by a big label, they had to produce all the paperwork and they couldn't. So, that's how we got 'em. They had no paperwork for anything to say they could do any of that stuff. But there's no way you can stop these things, in general. |
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 15:55
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There are many very good debut albums even though I tend to prefer bands after the warm up phase. From the well known ones I usually thought of Tubular Bells as my favourite debut album, but here I was reminded of jewels such as Rock Bottom and Mercator Projected. I nominate three that I haven't seen on any list yet, and that's Battles - Mirrored and then two of the best of the very best, namely Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade and .O.rang - Herd of Instinct although they didn't do much to follow up on these..
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 16:22
Thanks! We geezers tend to live a bit in the past!! First LPs by prog-related Queen and Led Zeppelin were certainly indicative of great things to come! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 16:51
| ^ And Black Sabbath too! |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 19 2024 at 22:27
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 00:09
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I nearly forgot one of my favorites! "Here Come the Warm Jets" by Brian Eno!! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: HelloProg!
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 01:56
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 04:49
I was not aware, according to WIKI he released a couple of albums in 1973. Never seen them on sale anywhere and no links on WIKI.
BTW His own website has this and note the word 'debut'. Composer, performer, producer. Visionary, innovator, cultural ambassador. Any list of Jean-Michel Jarre’s countless factettes would inevitably come short of his actual significance in music history. “JMJ” is a living legend and often referred to as the “Godfather of Electronic Music”. When Jarre launched his landmark- debut album “OXYGENE” in 1976, he opened a new chapter in music history. The record has sold over 18 million copies and laid the foundations for his exceptional career. Jarre’s pioneering work gave birth to a veritable cult and the fastest-growing trend the music industry has ever stood to witness: the rise of electronic music. Composer, performer, producer. Visionary, innovator, cultural ambassador. Any list of Jean-Michel Jarre’s countless factettes would inevitably come short of his actual significance in music history. “JMJ” is a living legend and often referred to as the “Godfather of Electronic Music”. When Jarre launched his landmark- debut album “OXYGENE” in 1976, he opened a new chapter in music history. The record has sold over 18 million copies and laid the foundations for his exceptional career. Jarre’s pioneering work gave birth to a veritable cult and the fastest-growing trend the music industry has ever stood to witness: the rise of electronic music. |
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 04:54
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Les granges brûlées is a french thriller movie issued in 1973 with Simone Sigoret and Alain Delon. (a good thriller imo). |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 04:59
Could have quite a lot of fun with this. Pink Floyd's debut was Dark Side Of The Moon as up to then they were just a psyche band. Tulls debut was Thick As A Brick as before that they were a heavy folk rock/blues band. Yes' prog debut was The Yes Album... and so on and so on |
Posted By: essexboyinwales
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 05:21
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IQ, It Bites, Frost*, Mike Oldfield, Dream Theater, King’s X, Sound Of Contact, Cellar Darling That’s 8 fantastic debut albums! ------------- Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 05:26
King's X- great choice,
such an underrated and often overlooked band, it's a bit ridiculous.  |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 05:32
| Sound Of Contact only did one album (it's great for sure). The 2 key members Dave Kerzner and Simon Collins eventually went their seperate ways and Kerzner did a couple of albums under the moniker In Continuum which featured material that was originally earmarked for SOC. Collins also formed a band called eMolecule last year with Kelly Nordstrom (also ex SOC) and released an excellent album called The Architect. Well worth checking out all these side projects if you like SOC. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 06:09
In which case, I was right about Moody Blues' The Days Of Future Passed.... none of this Magnificent Moodies' Popular Beat Combo rubbish, sans Lodge and Hayward.. and MMEB; should we start with Messin'?  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 09:30
Absolutely, and thanks to you both for reminding me to go back and edit my list to include Out of the Silent Planet. I can't believe I forgot.  ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 09:32
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 14:33
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I'm a fairly new Glass Hammer fan (first getting turned on by the amazing album "Perilous!), and their debut album "Journey of the Dunadan" certainly led to greater things! ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 20 2024 at 15:07
That's a fine debut, definitely worth owning. Years ago, I stumbled across a sealed copy and took it, since the earliest one I had at the time was Perelandra. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 21 2024 at 05:37
| ^ It was Chronomotree that sparked my interest in Glass Hammer. The Inconsolable Secret is the one I regularly return to. I like that more than most classic symph prog. One of only 2 albums with drummer Matt Mendians, he of the stripey sticks and facial tick. Great drummer, kind of their Bill Bruford as I see it. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 21 2024 at 10:59
Chronometree remains my favorite GH album, followed by Inconsolable and Dunadan. They've done some other good works, but nothing vibes for me the way those three do. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 21 2024 at 14:21
Thanks, I need to check them out!! I also enjoy their latest, "Arise!" https://glasshammer.com" rel="nofollow - https://glasshammer.com ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: August 21 2024 at 17:07
| My favourite prog debut album: Triumvirat-Mediterranean Tales |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 22 2024 at 02:43
I enjoy the recent albums a lot including Arise. They have got a lot heavier and moved away from the more symphonic style they were mainly known for. There is a lot to enjoy in their back catalogue and very little to avoid.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 22 2024 at 02:44
Yep I like that a lot as well.
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 24 2024 at 14:30
Just posted by Steve Babb on Facebook: https://glasshammer.bandcamp.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE3IcVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdCj010EuO0hXS9eVSZ-Kcx33f8mbVsH6ZZ13pjVNQmnh3zWLDCqyCsJyQ_aem_rEXXDBzrojTGJe3AHyPlJQ" rel="nofollow - https://glasshammer.bandcamp.com/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE3IcVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHdCj010EuO0hXS9eVSZ-Kcx33f8mbVsH6ZZ13pjVNQmnh3zWLDCqyCsJyQ_aem_rEXXDBzrojTGJe3AHyPlJQ ------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 24 2024 at 21:47
I wasn't aware of those early electronica releases, bit pricey to buy so may have to pass. Never purchased A Matter Of Time which is essentially a compilation (allbeit reimagined and re-recorded) but love the cheeky artwork!
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: August 25 2024 at 17:26
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The Enid- In The Region Of The Summer Stars Hatfield And The North Anthony Phillips- The Geese And The Ghost Steve Hackett- Voyage Of The Acolyte Solaris- Martian Kronikles Univers Zero Several people in the Pink Floyd camp have stated in the past that there remains a possibility that Syd Barrett wrote most of the songs for Piper At The Gates Of Dawn years before. Not all great debut albums are written in that way , but it does occur and it presents a different kind of process when putting the album together. An example being that several songs that were written and developed years ago are now being further developed and molded into the perfect end result..which sometimes can be magical!! |