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Topic: I collect more live albums by these bands.Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Subject: I collect more live albums by these bands.
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 09:36
With several bands, I prefer live albums to studio albums. I include live DVDs by the bands.
What bands do you prefer or collect more live albums than studio albums?
Mine:
King Crimson
SBB
Grobschnitt
Bill Bruford
Miles Davis
Magma
Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree
Marillion
Barclay James Harvest
Replies: Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 10:04
For me, that would be Roger Waters with the Mother of all touring bands, featuring an all-star line-up of Snowy White, Andy Fairweather Low, Jonathan Wilson, Mel Collins, Dave Kilminster, Michael Kamen and backing singers Katie Kissoon, Madeline Bell, P.P. Arnold and Kamala Harris (or at least someone who looks like her).
1990: Roger Waters - The Wall - Live in Berlin - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyGHs2yXwu1Sg4DXha46hfqGs6LarGe8w
2000: Roger Waters - In the Flesh - Live - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTWsuyDYRM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTWsuyDYRM
2006: Roger Waters - Dark Side of the Moon Tour (unreleased) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYL-ywrLcs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDYL-ywrLcs
2010: Roger Waters - The Wall - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtusYxDlaw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAtusYxDlaw
2020: Roger Waters - Us + Them - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUeWr3oVtc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiUeWr3oVtc
2023: Roger Waters - This is Not a Drill: Live in Prague - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDXojvpCl2I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDXojvpCl2I
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 10:53
Frank Zappa
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:12
King Crimson PFM Gov't Mule
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:12
King Crimson Magma
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:15
Grateful Dead...
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:19
omphaloskepsis wrote:
With several bands, I prefer live albums to studio albums. I include live DVDs by the bands.
What bands do you prefer or collect more live albums than studio albums?
None really*
But I do collect - well, actually "collect" is a bit of a stretch... I own quite a few live albums by:
Miles Davis
Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream
+loads of live jazz albums from the 1960's-1970's. *and within the jazz realm I might actually prefer a few performers like Ahmad Jamal, Bill Evans, Herbie Mann, Yusef Lateef... live. Ideally I'd like as much original material as possible on my live albums. Which is quite common in jazz - and uncommon in rock.
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:21
Saperlipopette! wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
With several bands, I prefer live albums to studio albums. I include live DVDs by the bands.
What bands do you prefer or collect more live albums than studio albums?
None really*
But I do collect - well, actually "collect" is a bit of a stretch... I own quite a few live albums by:
Miles Davis
Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream
+loads of live jazz albums from the 1960's-1970's. *and within the jazz realm I might actually prefer a few performers like Ahmad Jamal, Bill Evans, Herbie Mann, Yusef Lateef... live. Ideally I'd like as much original material as possible on my live albums. Which is quite common in jazz - and uncommon in rock.
I too prefer live-jazz to studio.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 11:51
I only have the live albums by Polish post-rock band Ciśnienie but that's because all the albums they released they put out as lives.
I have more lives by Magma than any other band. Quite a few Tangerine Dream and Miles Davis live albums too.
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 12:24
I'll Considered mainly release live recordings.
------------- Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 12:48
Goblin, Goblin Rebirth and Claudio Simonetti's Goblin have released numerous live albums, like the excellent Austinato Blu-ray/CD (Goblin) and Alive (Goblin Rebirth).
Zombi have yet to release an official live document, though there are some live bonus tracks on the upcoming 20th anniversary 2CD remix-reissue of their debut, Cosmos.
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 15:04
None at all as for me, the Live albums are never a substitute for studios...
Live albums need to prove to be the whole greater than the sum of the parts, raising the music to a whole new level, to justify a place in my collection, such as Camel: Live Record, GG: Playing The Fool or Tull: Bursting Out
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 15:06
Porcupine Tree, Coma Divine
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 15:22
Jared wrote:
None at all as for me, the Live albums are never a substitute for studios...
Live albums need to prove to be the whole greater than the sum of the parts, raising the music to a whole new level, to justify a place in my collection, such as Camel: Live Record, GG: Playing The Fool or Tull: Bursting Out
I'd put ELP's Pictures at an Exhibition in that group...
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 21:05
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Frank Zappa
I was going to say the same. Zappa live is awesome. Every concert was so different, particularly from line-up to line-up. I love hearing different interpretations of his music with each new group of players, new technology, and newer genres for them to parody. Plus, the improvised bits, both musical and comedic, keep each concert fresh. Especially any audience participation.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 01:12
Tangerine Dream's Live Albums (with a special mention for the magnificent nine highlighted concerts featuring Linda Spa).
2004: Montreal - April 9th 1977 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRRygHCaU9I" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRRygHCaU9I
2004: Paris - February 2nd 1981 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sM-wA0QzQ0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sM-wA0QzQ0
2004: Sydney - February 22nd 1982 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8T9XIQWIZCM6wDwYz3e9AwpDCRg__G_o" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8T9XIQWIZCM6wDwYz3e9AwpDCRg__G_o
2004: Ottawa - June 20th 1986
2004: East - Berlin 1990 - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=146&tit=East+%2D+TD+live+in+Berlin+1990+%28Vault+2%29" rel="nofollow - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=146&tit=East+%2D+TD+live+in+Berlin+1990+%28Vault+2%29
2004: Arizona Live 1992 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECaGWBvRQM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECaGWBvRQM
2006: Detroit - March 31st 1977 - http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SWCW2MDmqs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SWCW2MDmqs
2007: 35th Phaedra Anniversary Concert (DVD/Video: recorded in 2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUXri_bM3ks" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUXri_bM3ks
2007: Live at Coventry Cathedral 1975 (DVD/Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGByDwiiECw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGByDwiiECw
2007: Live at the London Astoria - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=209&tit=Live+at+the+London+Astoria" rel="nofollow - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=209&tit=Live+at+the+London+Astoria
2007: One Night in Space - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYpEO2P38PM
2008: Live at Loreley - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wjCZ9fyyq0
2009: The London Eye Concert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyzPGKH0U58
2009: Live in Los Angeles (DVD/Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5n72n3Syk
2009: Live at Dussmann Berlin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpGP3Eyo-U" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpGP3Eyo-U
2009: Rocking Out the Bats - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEStd5YJdLs
2009: Izu - Live in Japan - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=170&tit=Izu+%2D+Live+in+Japan" rel="nofollow - http://www.tangerinedreammusic.com/en/music/detail.asp?id=170&tit=Izu+%2D+Live+in+Japan
2010: Zeitgeist Concert: Live at the Royal Albert Hall, London - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lPT8EN2bNNdsuExqq6fa6zFe6zHIFHdO4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lPT8EN2bNNdsuExqq6fa6zFe6zHIFHdO4
2010: Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE
2011: Live at the Lowry, Manchester - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDnDcC9iT9uG2c9JNza7otcGS7NKIS4HJ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDnDcC9iT9uG2c9JNza7otcGS7NKIS4HJ
2012: Live at Admiralspalast, Berlin
2012: Live in Budapest
2012: The Electric Mandarine Tour: The Zurich Switzerland Concert - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyiKD3YUEDI
2013: Tangerine Dream & Brian May - Starmus: Sonic Universe
2013: Cruise to Destiny - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atj__GYnX0Y" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atj__GYnX0Y
2014: Phaedra Farewell Tour - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEgtmnoMNCA" rel="nofollow - http:// w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEgtmnoMNCA" rel="nofollow - ww.youtube.com/watch?v=eEgtmnoMNCA
2015: Supernormal: The Australian Concerts
2017: The Sessions I - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5ghceSCVW6BRhNmxinFDKw-fQOBhM1RY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5ghceSCVW6BRhNmxinFDKw-fQOBhM1RY
2018: The Sessions II - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mW22EartvHBkNNruJ2eDHdEzIdCPod3fc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mW22EartvHBkNNruJ2eDHdEzIdCPod3fc
2018: The Sessions III - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIkdPs1fifgFRl3ch5YldBWs4UvIF7H4E" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mIkdPs1fifgFRl3ch5YldBWs4UvIF7H4E
2018: The Sessions IV - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mouo_dlfivz-unrtOg5nsyvv95cpWT4t4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mouo_dlfivz-unrtOg5nsyvv95cpWT4t4
2019: Live at Augusta Raurica, Switzerland, 2016 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHBRwIKfkD8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHBRwIKfkD8
2019: The Sessions V - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_muTZTjg6MZjjEAmw7bMXwac5cHvlcrdzA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_muTZTjg6MZjjEAmw7bMXwac5cHvlcrdzA
2020: The Sessions VI - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0z3s0ghIjOjFnvPpYarantHRGA_50ZoQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0z3s0ghIjOjFnvPpYarantHRGA_50ZoQ
2021: The Sessions VII - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_OlmeBobk8U-_C0Lkt7mAaLhEYzvroYM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m_OlmeBobk8U-_C0Lkt7mAaLhEYzvroYM
2022: Live in Reims Cinema Opera 1975 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nt5zZYkw4jLkQZBKMDRCvkuVzTJYbwR2c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nt5zZYkw4jLkQZBKMDRCvkuVzTJYbwR2c
2023: The Sessions VIII - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ruDyxssLQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9ruDyxssLQ
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 01:21
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
1975: Ricochet
1977: Encore
1981: Quichotte (Pergamon)
1982: Logos
1984: Poland
1988: Live Miles
When you put it like that, it's quite frightening.... I only own these six, plus Coventry Cathedral (1975) and Deutschlandhalle (1973) at present, but will also get the Zeit 2CD set in due course.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 01:24
Criswell wrote:
Jared wrote:
None at all as for me, the Live albums are never a substitute for studios...
Live albums need to prove to be the whole greater than the sum of the parts, raising the music to a whole new level, to justify a place in my collection, such as Camel: Live Record, GG: Playing The Fool or Tull: Bursting Out
I'd put ELP's Pictures at an Exhibition in that group...
It's a great album of course, but I own it because it's original material... 'Welcome Back' would be another fine example of where a band takes their studio material to another level artistically, and therefore is a collection essential.
------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 05:49
I don't particularly focus on live albums, but like to hear how the bands, all bands I like, play their music live. However, How many versions of Aqualung, Roundabout, 21st Century Schizoid Man, Supper's Ready, etc. do I really need?
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 06:11
King Crimson
Grobschnitt
Soft Machine (clear winner)
to a certain extent (but I'm far from having most of the studio albums):
Magma
Can
.... and
Tangerine Dream (via the Hades Boxset)
EDIT: I should indulge more on Tangerine's Schmoelling era live albums (studio albums are boring, past Tangram)
.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 06:52
Awesoreno wrote:
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
Frank Zappa
I was going to say the same. Zappa live is awesome. Every concert was so different, particularly from line-up to line-up. I love hearing different interpretations of his music with each new group of players, new technology, and newer genres for them to parody. Plus, the improvised bits, both musical and comedic, keep each concert fresh. Especially any audience participation.
You said it better than I could, and there is an abundance of live material to choose from.
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 07:21
Sean Trane wrote:
King Crimson
Grobschnitt
Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream
...
Hi,
Without a doubt these were/are the best live.
KC is probably the most rehearsed and prepared of them all in concert. You don't do 3 drummers unless you know how and what you are doing! The film makes this clear.
Grobschnitt is one of those bands that is always fun and ready to play ... and they do show their abilities in a few live albums, specially the different versions of Solar Music live in the remastered album.
Magma, would not be as good if they were not "clean" in concert, which is by very far a far out experience.
Tangerine Dream, has the number of Live albums down the most, and the better ones, were actually in the early days ... when the bootlegs were what showed that TD could not quite replicate things as well as they were able to record them, but their adjustments and ability made them great anyway ... it probably wasn't until the late 70's that they started being able to control their music and then do it live. But you never saw them do the recorded material to a T ... it was always different and many times better live.
Can has excellent stuff in the days that Damo gave us ... and later, it did not show as many recordings without Damo, probably because there was no need for it. The albums were as live as they could be.
A few others ...
The kings of the live show and album!!!! Grateful Dead, which has shared the largest amount of shows with their fans from the start ... although the big thing here was how different so much stuff was, but the musical talent and ability was way up there, sadly thought of by prog's and progressive folks as stony music and nothing else. They also, unlike a lot of bands, had the best sound system of any band ... even PF didn't come close in DSOTM.
The most talented ... Frank Zappa. And his bands were usually tight and well rehearsed, and in the days of George Duke, even more so, as he helped make it all special ... one look at the Roxy DVD ... and you always wish you were there ... a show that good? Goodness. Also try to see that bit by Steve Vai about Frank's ability to flow all over the place, with a massive solo that never played anywhere else. Steve still says that is the best guitar playing he has ever heard or seen.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 09:18
moshkito wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
King Crimson
Grobschnitt
Soft Machine
Magma
Can
Tangerine Dream
...
Hi,
Without a doubt these were/are the best live.
But you erased Soft Machine.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 19:46
Sean Trane wrote:
...
But you erased Soft Machine.
Hi,
My bad, and it is because I have not heard SM Live forever ... I have not listened to SM since RW had to leave.
I promise to catch up ... but even in RW days they were already a heck of a trip.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 21:18
I'm in your corner Hugues, Soft Machine is the first band I thought of when I saw the topic. There always seems to be a good reason to buy every archival live album that they release. Although I've abstained from the latest "Hovikodden".
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 09 2024 at 02:21
Mellotron Storm wrote:
I'm in your corner Hugues, Soft Machine is the first band I thought of when I saw the topic. There always seems to be a good reason to buy every archival live album that they release. Although I've abstained from the latest "Hovikodden".
I think Steve has made a fortune from all the SM posthumous live releases I (we) bought from him (I'll include the few Nucleus live releases in there as well for me). Surely Steve will object to "making a fortune" out of those Soft releases, though.
TBH, I might actually pass as well on the latest Norwegian double header, as it might be a little of an overkill.
------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 14 2024 at 12:29
Great choices. Some bands are better live than in the studio. For me, Renaissance and Deep Purple are two of them.
------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 14 2024 at 14:14
Many German bands are better live than studio, and have good live albums that show it. Grobschnitt have already been named, Kraan is another major example (probably number one "live over studio" band for me); all their live albums top all their studio albums. Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt is head and shoulders above their studio work, Anyone's Daughter's Requested Documents live albums have better versions than studio of most of the tracks, Guru Guru Live is my favourite of them. Eloy would also improve on most of their studio versions live. Embryo probably as well (although I'd need to know more of them to be sure). Tangerine Dream is of course a special case with all that material that is on live albums only.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 14 2024 at 16:48
Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
There is a lot and I listen to their live material a lot more nowadays especially:
Mar Y Sol (Puerto Rico 1972). Great Hammond sound!
Live in Italy (Milan 1973). Has Karn Evil 9 1st Impression the same as the album (ie without the extended drum solo that almost ruins the triple album version) Carl Palmer's bass drum is very heavy indeed.
Welcome Back My Friends.. (Anahiem 1974). For the extended Tarkus but it's a muddy sounding album sadly.
King Biscuit Presents (has the same performances of Hoedown and Karn Evil 9 that were in the live triple above but with better sounding ''Straight from boards'' recordings)
Live Bootleg Series Volume 2 (this includes ELP's greatest live performance in the opinion of many fans at Rich Coloseum, Buffalo, NY in 1974. Sound quality is not great but you can still actually hear the quad system in action and it's insane!)
Nassau Coloseum and the even better Wheeling, West Virginia 2 CD set both of which I play the death out of. The latter is superbly recorded and the band were on fire by this time on the Works Tour (just as a 3 piece with orchestra long ditched)
If I listen to any ELP after their classic era then occasionally Live At The Royal Albert Hall from 1992 is decent.
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 14 2024 at 17:03
Lewian wrote:
Many German bands are better live than studio, and have good live albums that show it. Grobschnitt have already been named, Kraan is another major example (probably number one "live over studio" band for me); all their live albums top all their studio albums. Hoelderlin Live Traumstadt is head and shoulders above their studio work, Anyone's Daughter's Requested Documents live albums have better versions than studio of most of the tracks, Guru Guru Live is my favourite of them. Eloy would also improve on most of their studio versions live. Embryo probably as well (although I'd need to know more of them to be sure). Tangerine Dream is of course a special case with all that material that is on live albums only.
Eloy Live is one of the greatest live prog albums. Jurgen Rosenthal is in fire. BTW Jurgen wrote all of the Ocean album, a fact that not many are aware of. Neil Peart eat your hat!