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Topic: 2fers from punky bands: Some of my fave albums
Posted By: Logan
Subject: 2fers from punky bands: Some of my fave albums
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 12:52
2fers from some bands: Some of my favourite albums/ bands with punky qualities

Paul is doing  a UK punk series, and this is just a more general punky poll covering some acts that I like.  Here are 25 bands with a certain punkinshness about them, and I have two albums per band listed.  Please vote for up to three of these bands, and if you want to specify another album from a band off the list, that's fine, but ideally it should be punky or punkish to you.  Some of my options are more punk than others.

I find the first two Cocteau Twins much more post-punk than later works.  When you vote for an option, you can  cast one vote for either album by the band, both albums by the band, or another album by the band, but try to choose one of the punkier albums as acts can be stylistically diverse.  And feel free to mention any not on the list.  Comments and even criticisms are appreciated, as are asides for this quite civil and orderly mosh pit.

Bauhaus: In the Flat Field (1980) or The Sky's Gone Out (1982)
Black Country, New Road: For the First Time (2021) or Ants From Up There (2022)
black midi: Schlagenheim (2019) or Hellfire (2022)
Echo & The Bunnymen: Porcupine (1983) or Ocean Rain (1984)
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds: Your Funeral ... My Trial (1986) or Let Love In (1994)
The Chameleons: Script of the Bridge (1983) or Strange Times (1986)
Cocteau Twins: Garlands (1982) or Head Over Heels (1983)
The Cure: Pornography (1982) or Disintegration (1989)
The Fall: Hex Enduction Hour (1982) or Perverted Language (1983)
Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights (1982) or Antics (2004)
Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures (1979) or Closer (1980)
Killing Joke: Killing Joke (1980) or Night Time (1985)
Magazine: Real Life (1978) or Secondhand Daylight (1979)
The National: Alligator (2005) or Boxer (2007)
Pere Ubu: The Modern Dance (1978) or Dub Housing (1978)
Public Image Ltd.: Metal Box (1979) or The Flowers of Romance (1981)
Siouxsie and The Banshees: Juju (1981) or Tinderbox (1986)
The Sisters of Mercy: First and Last and Always (1985) or Floodland (1987)
The Sound: Jeopardy (1980) or From the Lions Mouth (1981)
Squid: Bright Green Field (2021) or O Monolith (2023)
Swans: Children of God (1987) or The Great Annihilator (1995)
Television: Marquee Moon (1977) or Adventure (1978)
This Heat: This Heat (1979) or Deceit (1981)
Tuxedomoon: Desire (1981) or Holy Wars (1985)
Wire: Chairs Missing (1978) or 154 (1979)

As usual, I have a song from each album in a youtube playlist.  Well, it's not complete because I am having internet connectivity issues, but I will have 50 tracks.





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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 15:23
Chameleons Script of the bridge by far   (with its progressive like covert art), they deserved better but in 1983 such an Lp was almost uncommercial


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 15:26
Lot of interesting stuff , I still have some of 'em
     
     Echo & The Bunnymen: Porcupine
     
     The Chameleons: Script of the Bridge
     
     The Cure: Pornography / Disintegration     
     
     Interpol: Turn on the Bright Lights / Antics     
     Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures / Closer     
     Killing Joke: Killing Joke
     Magazine: Real Life / Secondhand Daylight
     The National: Alligator / Boxer     
     
     
     The Sisters of Mercy: First and Last and Always / Floodland     
     The Sound: Jeopardy / From the Lions Mouth     
     
     Television: Marquee Moon
        This Heat: This Heat
     Tuxedomoon: Desire
     Wire: 154


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 15:39
Suggestions :

Gang of four : Solid gold ( with Paralyzed ( a summit of minimalism) and the tribal What We all want )

The Comsat Angels : Sleep no more (1981)
Echo and the Bunnymen : Heaven up here
Magazine : Correct use of soap
The Cure : 17 seconds
The Cure : Faith
XTC : Black Sea
XTC : Drums and Wires
The Skids : Absolute game ( lead by Stuart Adams who'll launch the much more successful Big Country)

And

Eyeless in gaza : Drumming the beating heart (1982)
The Duruti Column : first works for Factory
XTC : Go+ with his bonus 12 inches called   "a dictionnairy of modern mariage" originally in 45 rpm but much more fun/kraut at 33 rpm
The Human league first double EP with the Krauty Dancevision


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 15:52
^ Thanks.  I listened to Comsat Angels when I think you posted it for Paul's consideration and loved it.  If I were to do a single (one album in each), I would want to mention Camberwell Now's The Ghost Trade.  And I love the pronk of Cardiacs. A lot of my fave punkish music crosses over with Goth, with Darkwave....

Weirdly perhaps, I never got into XTC despite being into plenty of Zolo and art punk.  I should try again.


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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 15:54
:-) good move Logan


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:02
for XTC Go+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S2kXd3m0gc

sorry i can't upload active link


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:05
Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

for XTC Go+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S2kXd3m0gc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S2kXd3m0gc


Good call! Big smile Thanks.  Love it.  Reminds me of The Residents and Renaldo and the Loaf.


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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:08
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

for XTC Go+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S2kXd3m0gc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S2kXd3m0gc


Good call! Big smile Thanks.  Love it.  Reminds me of The Residents and Renaldo and the Loaf.


you welcome Logan


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:14
for Human League Holyday's 80 EP Dance vision track :

it starts at 6:45 Approx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0m4Zm7XGHE





Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:33
This Heat, black midi, and Squid. The structural integrity of the bag was weakened by speaking sauce and there-there pants.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 16:57
^ Nice choices.  Thumbs Up

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^^^^ And the XTC reminded me of Tuxedomoon, as one might guess.

Originally posted by mellotronwave mellotronwave wrote:

for Human League Holyday's 80 EP Dance vision track :

it starts at 6:45 Approx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0m4Zm7XGHE


https://youtu.be/X0m4Zm7XGHE?feature=shared&t=406" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/X0m4Zm7XGHE?feature=shared&t=406

I liked that too.  I have liked Human League since the 80s, but I don't recall having heard that before.

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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 18:56
For Gang of Four Paralyzed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHHrDNbMxf8


Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: August 02 2024 at 19:00
And how did I forget A certain Ratio ( from The Factory Manchester) ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41aSt0_14TQ

Knive slits water (great bass line altrough)



Posted By: Octopus II
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 01:39
Magazine -  Real Life/Secondhand Daylight.

Had XTC -  Drums & Wires/Black Sea been in the poll I would have voted for that. Smile


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 02:48
Joy Division.

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 05:57
Originally posted by Octopus II Octopus II wrote:

Magazine -  Real Life/Secondhand Daylight.

Had XTC -  Drums & Wires/Black Sea been in the poll I would have voted for that. Smile

I'd have gone for Violent Femmes' Debut and Hallowed Ground.


Or Outlandos d'Amour and Regatta de Blanc (or Ghost in a Machine)


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Posted By: Sebastianmoto
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 08:01
Squid and Black Midi, then Black Country, New Road.
I may prefer BM slightly more than Squid, but Squid seems to bridge the prog/punk divide in a way that is enjoyable equally between myself and my punk-oriented friends; I never hear 'why is this so long?' when playing Squid.

I'd also recommend the short-lived https://roostersrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - STALIN VS BAND that I found recently and have enjoyed, though they have just two short albums with 'I have too much blood' at 33m and 'Chaotic Incendiary Prog-Punk Soundtracks (For The 21st Century)' at just 13m with 8 short tracks.



Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 08:42

Bauhaus: In the Flat Field
Television: Marquee Moon

Too difficult to choose the third one amongst:
Joy Division: Closer
Siouxsie and The Banshees: Juju 
Pere Ubu: The Modern Dance



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Posted By: Gentle and Giant
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 09:19
I like a lot of the stuff in this list. But the bands that appeal to me most are:

Bauhaus
Killing Joke
BC;NR
black midi
Squid
The Cure
The Sisters of Mercy

My top album from all these is:

Bauhaus - The Sky's Gone Out



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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 03 2024 at 11:03
^ The Sky's Gone Out is great.  I have known the earlier than that Bauhaus material since the late 80s.  I got into Bauhaus actually due to the movie, The Hunger which featured Bela Lugosi's Dead (the earlier longer version of that still being one of my very favurite songs), but only overe the poast year heard The Sky's Gone Out... A Different and great album.

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I'd have gone for Violent Femmes' Debut and Hallowed Ground.
Or Outlandos d'Amour and Regatta de Blanc (or Ghost in a Machine)


I hope you found something you did like in this multiple choice poll.  Love to hear about what people like on the list, don't like, and other options.  Violent Femmes would have been on here had I remembered and taken more time thinking up this poll (although I don't know what I would have left off).  I even have listened to Hallowed Ground in full in the past month. Much as I like The Police and have listened to those albums many times in 1990 (due to my roommate when living at Whistler), to me they don't feel right for the list (or youtube playlist).  Still I'm happy with with the acts I listed.  I might have added Cardiacs, who probably know I love, but it didn't quite fit the mood I felt as well as others.

Thanks to all for their comments.  This non-regional specific one is hopefully something of a  primer before Paul puts together a UK punk series.


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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: August 05 2024 at 00:56
This is much harder than the second list as the top 3 are not quite up there (I'd have chosen other albums from some of my favourite bands here, Swans, Killing Joke, Cure) but then there are many more really good ones.

Let's say This Heat, Tuxedomoon, Squid.


Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2024 at 21:02
From my selection it perhaps looks more like they share a certain "goth-rockiness". If in red if I have a slight preference for one of the albums. As I have a hard time selecting one favorite over another, I would ideally want all of the five first to be among my selected three:)

Swans: Children of God (1987) or The Great Annihilator (1995)
Siouxsie and The Banshees: Juju (1981) or Tinderbox (1986)
black midi: Schlagenheim (2019) or Hellfire (2022)
The Cure: Pornography (1982) or Disintegration (1989)
Joy Division: Unknown Pleasures (1979) or Closer (1980)
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The Sisters of Mercy: First and Last and Always (1985) or Floodland (1987)
This Heat: This Heat (1979) or Deceit (1981)
Bauhaus: In the Flat Field (1980) or The Sky's Gone Out (1982)
The Chameleons: Script of the Bridge (1983) or Strange Times (1986)



Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 05 2024 at 21:12
Btw: Their swan song (until their "comeback" Go Away White) Burning From The Inside might be my actual Bauhaus pick. Or, at least I am just as fond of it as the "classics" in the poll.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 06 2024 at 11:11
Bauhaus is great throughout for me.  

By the way, as might be expected, I prefer various albums of these bands to the ones listed but find these punkier than various others.  I prefer black midi's Cavalcade to Schlagenheim but Schlag seems particularly post-punk.  With Swans, I am big on the Children to God to now time, but some albums seem more post-punk than others. Cocteau Twins first two are the obviously punky ones from them -- had I gone with album faves, I would have gone with Treasure and Heaven or Las Vegas.

I will go with as three listed albums from three bands (which all got mentions from Saper):

Joy Division's Closer
Swans' Children of God
Siouxsie and The Banshees' Tinderbox


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 06 2024 at 11:56
Originally posted by Sebastianmoto Sebastianmoto wrote:

Squid and Black Midi, then Black Country, New Road.
I may prefer BM slightly more than Squid, but Squid seems to bridge the prog/punk divide in a way that is enjoyable equally between myself and my punk-oriented friends; I never hear 'why is this so long?' when playing Squid.

I'd also recommend the short-lived https://roostersrecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - STALIN VS BAND that I found recently and have enjoyed, though they have just two short albums with 'I have too much blood' at 33m and 'Chaotic Incendiary Prog-Punk Soundtracks (For The 21st Century)' at just 13m with 8 short tracks.


Thanks, I'm listening to Stalin vs Band right now and liking it a lot!  Thanks.

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By the way, I started on another list, since one poll often leads to another, where I wanted to cover other albums of bands mention in this poll and in https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133312" rel="nofollow - part two (CLICK)   (plus Oingo Boing since it was mentioned)

Bauhaus: Mask (1981) / Burning From the Inside (1983)
black midi: Boiler Room London (live, 2019) / Cavalcade (2021)
Cardiacs: Songs for Ships and Irons (1991) / Sing to God (1996)
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds: Tender Prey (1988) / Murder Ballads (1996)
Cocteau Twins:  Treausure (1984) / Heaven or Leaving Las Vegas (1990)
The Cure: Faith (1981) / The Head on the Door (1985)
Echo & The Bunnymen: Crocodiles (1980) / Heaven Up Here (1981)
Oingo Boingo: Only a Lad (1981) / Nothing to Fear (1982)
Siouxsie and The Banshees: Kaleidoscope (1980) / A Kiss in the Dreamhouse (1982)
Swans: To Be Kind (2014) / The Glowing Man (2016) (hardest for me to choose as I love so many of its albums)
Tuxedomoon: Half-Mute (1980) / The Ghost Sonata (1991)

Just what I have so far.... Once done, Paul is going to have some more competition in the poll-making category (just kidding).  I have made so many polls in my time here (and not all have been appreciated).


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Posted By: SleepingFinger
Date Posted: August 07 2024 at 10:22
I’m going with Joy Division, Public Image Ltd, and Pere Ubu, though there were many greats on this list. Pere Ubu is a delightfully strange band. I believe their roots were in a band called Rocket From The Tombs. Part of that band became Pere Ubu, and part became the Dead Boys. Tim Wright, who was the bassist early on would also become a member of the No Wave band DNA.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 11:00
Originally posted by SleepingFinger SleepingFinger wrote:

I’m going with Joy Division, Public Image Ltd, and Pere Ubu, though there were many greats on this list. Pere Ubu is a delightfully strange band. I believe their roots were in a band called Rocket From The Tombs. Part of that band became Pere Ubu, and part became the Dead Boys. Tim Wright, who was the bassist early on would also become a member of the No Wave band DNA.


Thanks for the info; I was unaware.  I have heard of DNA


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Posted By: SleepingFinger
Date Posted: August 08 2024 at 11:21
My pleasure! It’s always fun exchanging musical info!



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