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Topic: Prog Songs for SatanPosted By: mathman0806
Subject: Prog Songs for Satan
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 17:52
Just to provide equity and inclusion as a counterpoint to Paul's thread.
Nolan Potter doesn't get much mention around here as he should.
Nolan Potter's Nightmare Band - Singing a Single Song of Satan
Post some of your favorite Satanic prog songs.
Replies: Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 18:26
Awesome thread idea! This is more difficult than Paul's poll. All I have is not prog... Grateful Dead - Friend of the Devil and...
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 18:42
There was a French symphonic prog band named SATAN that recorded its music in the 70s but didn't get the music released until 2016 on the Monster Melodies label. It's a great album actually.
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 18:46
^^^ Nice, I liked the Nolan Potter track. The album this is off would sooner be classified Industrial Rock, Noise Rock and Experimental Rock than Prog, but I like Daughters, and this is Prog and good to me.
Daughters' "Satan in the Wait" off You Won't Get What You Want.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 19:27
"The Great Deceiver" by King Crimson.
------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 19:48
^Good one. Reminded me of this.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 20:00
This TFK song is not much for as it is about Satan. I like how it stays vague and avoids the blatant Christian themes but still delivers the message and of course it's pretty kick ass music-wise.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 20:06
There is this collaboration between Tropical F*ck Storm and King Gizzard & Lizard Wizard.
Satanic Slumber Party Part 2
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 29 2024 at 20:27
Of course if you count progressive black metal then you have quite a few options.
Deathspell Omega released a whole trilogy based on Satanic theological texts
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 02:20
Logan wrote:
"Come, come, come to the sabbat. Come to the sabbat, Satan's there!"
A favourite song of mine from a band linked to "heavy prog" is Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat.
That was my first thought.
Is the sister of satan close enough? Like with Black Widow I enjoy the diabolic lyricism in combination with a relatively cheery tune. They simply can't hide that they are having a jolly good time
Posted By: Mystique
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 03:35
Diamanda Galás - The Litanies of Satan
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 05:04
Bruford - Beelzebub
Allan Holdsworth - Devil Take the Hindmost
Bruford - Hell's Bells
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 05:14
Alan Parsons Project - Lucifer
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 05:19
Spinal Tap - Christmas With The Devil
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 05:46
"Their Satanic Majesties Request," the only prog album by the Rolling Stones (as far as I know).
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 06:13
cstack3 wrote:
"The Great Deceiver" by King Crimson.
That is Robert Fripp's song about Pete Sinfield, the song about satan is "In the Court of the Crimson King"
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 06:46
Spock's Beard - Devil's Got My Throat
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 06:59
Al DiMeola - Race With The Devil On A Spanish Highway
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 07:08
Cozy Powell - Who Danced with the Devil one too many times when he was under the affluence of incohol (hic) whilst motoring along the M4 Motorway at 100mph in driving rain in the middle of the night with a defective tyre and chatting with his girlfriend on his mobile phone, when his famous last words were, "Oh s***", followed by a loud bang.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 07:40
Posted By: AcidTrash
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 09:01
How's about Norwegian black metal eccentric Furze and his incredible side-long opus "Sathanas' Megalomania"?!
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 09:04
mathman0806 wrote:
There is this collaboration between Tropical F*ck Storm and King Gizzard & Lizard Wizard.
Satanic Slumber Party Part 2
Here's the full 18 minutes comprising of Parts 1, 2, and 3.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 09:09
Hail Lucifer
I've never really payed any attention to the lyrics, but Lucifer is in the title:
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 09:20
The lyrics to this song by Randone are, as far as I can tell, from the POV of Satan, who tries to decieve the main character from his pilgrimage to Santiago/Jerusalem.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 10:17
Peter Hamiill ( backed by full VDGG) : Gog (from In Camera)
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:24
'Prince of Darkness'- Lucifers Friend
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:31
Manuel wrote:
"Their Satanic Majesties Request," the only prog album by the Rolling Stones (as far as I know).
Prog or psychedelic? It sounds more psychedelic to me. What on there do you consider prog?
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:37
King Crimson - The Devil's Triangle - King Crimson
Spock's Beard -The Devil's Got My Throat
Transatlantic - Duel With The Devil
And although not really prog I'm still surprised no one has mentioned the band Coven who had a song called Black Sabbath before Black Sabbath and a bass player named Greg "Oz" Osbourne.
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:37
Geezer Butler said its about Satan falling in love.
NIB by Black Sabbath
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:42
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
King Crimson - The Devil's Triangle - King Crimson
Spock's Beard -The Devil's Got My Throat
Transatlantic - Duel With The Devil
And although not really prog I'm still surprised no one has mentioned the band Coven who had a song called Black Sabbath before Black Sabbath and a bass player named Greg "Oz" Osbourne.
I mentioned Coven.
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:45
Logan wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
King Crimson - The Devil's Triangle - King Crimson
Spock's Beard -The Devil's Got My Throat
Transatlantic - Duel With The Devil
And although not really prog I'm still surprised no one has mentioned the band Coven who had a song called Black Sabbath before Black Sabbath and a bass player named Greg "Oz" Osbourne.
I mentioned Coven.
Yes, just barely.
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 11:57
Overseer Overture - Jethro Tull's A Passion Play
Colours I've none dark or light, red, white or blue Cold is my touch (freezing)
Summoned by name, I am the overseer over you Given this command to watch o'er our miserable sphere Fallen from grace, called on to bring sun or rain Occasional corn from my oversight grew
Fell with mine angels from a far better place Offering services for the saving of face Now you're here, you may as well admire All whom living has retired from the benign reconciliation
Legends were born surrounding mysterious lights Seen in the sky (flashing) I just lit a fag then took my leave in the blink of an eye
Passionate play join round the maypole in dance Primitive rite, wrongly Summoned by name I am the overseer over you
------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 18:25
Logan wrote:
"Come, come, come to the sabbat. Come to the sabbat, Satan's there!"
A favourite song of mine from a band linked to "heavy prog" is Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat.
And then there's Coven.
Dang, good one! I forgot about them!!
------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 18:52
I was gonna post a Coven song here but I decided not to because I thought it would be a bit too obvious of an example! xD So I went with Roine Stolt instead. :P
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 19:03
This thread brings back a lot of memories!! We used to listen to this LP a lot in college!
Black Mass by Lucifer! Good, early synth music!
------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 19:26
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 22:37
The extreme metal band Behemoth from my country had an over the top "Satanic" shtick, complete with occult symbols, corpse paint and so on
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 23:06
^
Hrychu wrote:
I was gonna post a Coven song here but I decided not to because I thought it would be a bit too obvious
of an example! xD So I went with Roine Stolt instead. :P
So
Coven is too obvious to post, but not a Black Metal (or blackened death metal) band whose most
popular album is titled The Satanist?:) -saw them live on that album tour actually. Not bad, not incredible (imo). But it was a little random for me. At a festival.
Anyway, Air only ever released this single in 1972, but Twelve O'Clock Satanial geunine progressive psychrock:
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 23:11
So Coven is too obvious to post, but not a Black Metal (or blackened death metal) band whose most popular album is titled The Satanist?
Nah, it's totally a super obvious song, cuz actually, at some point into this thread I gave up on providing only the deep cuts. ;P
saw them live on that album tour actually. Not bad, not incredible (imo). But it was a little random for me. At a festival.
Behemoth is a blackened death metal band for the kind of people who generally don't listen to metal. Hardcore metalheads refer to them as "pop metal". Really! xD
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 30 2024 at 23:50
^Haha. Those true hardcore metalheads and their tiresome, predictable opinions are posers in their own way. Yes I know they're nothing like TNBM and has no street (or forest) credibility. It's all image, smoke and mirrors, but I don't mind. I found them mildly entertaining live for fifteen, maybe twenty minutes. In my modest Pop Metal collection The Satanist is placed somewhere in between Hysteria and Slippery When Wet - WHERE IT BELONGS!:)
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 12:57
mathman0806 wrote:
Just to provide equity and inclusion as a counterpoint to Paul's thread.
Sure, why not, Satan uses to be the other side of God.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 14:25
Easy Money wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
"The Great Deceiver" by King Crimson.
That is Robert Fripp's song about Pete Sinfield, the song about satan is "In the Court of the Crimson King"
I can't verify that online! This is what Palmer-James said about the song
TR: As far as I know Robert Fripp is the co-author of "The Great Deceiver" lyrics...
RPJ: Yes, it's true. John called on me in Munich then and said: "Listen, Robert has written this verse and would like it to be in the lyrics of one of the pieces". And I replied: "OK, no problem". I mean the words which later became the chorus of "The Great Deceiver". As far as I know these are the only lyrics Robert has written for King Crimson. My duty was to create a setting for them, to add a scenery. And a satiric song was written, such an ironical comment on all commercial activities.
TR: Who is The Great Deceiver?
RPJ: It's the devil. After all the traces of the devil's presence may be detected in many King Crimson pieces.
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 14:39
Posted By: Criswell
Date Posted: July 01 2024 at 15:18
Goodness...we're all over the Satan stuff...
My contribution...
Jacula - Tardo Pede In Magiam Versus...music by a bunch of supposedly real occultists...
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 03:50
A wonderful live rendition of The Devil Made Me Do It by Golden Earring:
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 10:45
Still, I'm not much for the Satan business, as the question for me is, what does it mean in relation to other people.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 10:50
David_D wrote:
Still, I'm not much for the Satan business, as the question for me is, what does it mean in relation to other people.
Exactly the same as with the God business: domination.
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The razamataz is a pain in the bum
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 10:59
David_D wrote:
Still, I'm not much for the Satan business, as the question for me is, what does it mean in relation to other people.
The word Satan ultimately came from Hebrew meaning "adversary" therefore the whole Satan thing has historically referred to nothing more than a rebellion against the status quo. The term has taken on a good vs evil connotation through the manipulation of religious organizations over the centuries.
These days it's more a gimmick than anything however Satanic cults do exist although they don't worship a devil. They are more about attaining personal power through occult manipulation of unseen forces that can be harnessed through ritualistic practices. While evil clearly exists in the world, most cultures do not attribute it to a figurehead fallen angel but rather a force of nature.
Satan in music is usually more about pure fantasy just like swords and sorcery and science fiction. It's all good theatrical fun really with no harm done. Of course there were early black metal bands that killed and burned down churches and all that. Definitely some neo-Nazi groups that are considered Satanic but the term is rather nebulous when you dig into its origins.
Most people i've known who claim to be Satanic are merely anti-religion and that's their way of expressing it.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 14:52
Silly Puppy wrote:
The term has taken on a good vs evil connotation through the manipulation of religious organizations over the centuries. [...] Satan in music is usually more about pure fantasy just like swords and sorcery and science fiction. It's all good theatrical fun really with no harm done.
Citizen Cain did a very similar thing, except they took the Satan character out of the equation. Cyrus would "deconstruct" Christian symbols one by one in his lyrics, sometimes even giving them an additional mythical dimension to make them less obvious. Quite clever imho.
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 17:04
https://youtu.be/ZDMMoH2e7OM?si=0-DhpqYH5p6vIjeA
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 19:10
This song by http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2590" rel="nofollow - Skaldowie is more/less about the absence of Satan. :P The title translates to "There is no Satan".
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 19:37
Criswell wrote:
Goodness...we're all over the Satan stuff...
My contribution...
Jacula - Tardo Pede In Magiam Versus...music by a bunch of supposedly real occultists...
This is quite disturbing. I remember having their albums.
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 20:13
siLLy puPPy wrote:
David_D wrote:
Still, I'm not much for the Satan business, as the question for me is, what does it mean in relation to other people.
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The word Satan ultimately came from Hebrew meaning "adversary" therefore the whole Satan thing has historically referred to nothing more than a rebellion against the status quo. The term has taken on a good vs evil connotation through the manipulation of religious organizations over the centuries.
These days it's more a gimmick than anything however Satanic cults do exist although they don't worship a devil. They are more about attaining personal power through occult manipulation of unseen forces that can be harnessed through ritualistic practices. While evil clearly exists in the world, most cultures do not attribute it to a figurehead fallen angel but rather a force of nature.
Satan in music is usually more about pure fantasy just like swords and sorcery and science fiction. It's all good theatrical fun really with no harm done. Of course there were early black metal bands that killed and burned down churches and all that. Definitely some neo-Nazi groups that are considered Satanic but the term is rather nebulous when you dig into its origins.
Most people i've known who claim to be Satanic are merely anti-religion and that's their way of expressing it.
I recall a much different kind of Satan worship in the early 70s. For example, a local gathering that practiced Black Magic and wore robes and masks...dancing around a fire sing-song chanting. They claimed to belong to a cult of old. One that traveled to the U.S. in eighteen hundreds..nevertheless they performed a certain ritual every hundred years. It was known as the One Hundred Year Ritual.
They were interrogated by police shortly after a ritualistic killing at Menantico. The witch who called herself Lilith Sinclair was a priestess of the Church Of Satan. She claimed that members of her group were harassed after the Black Magic sacrifice of Mike Newell at Menantico.
She revolted against the Church Of Satan before forming the Temple Of Set. Interestingly though....her group were posers in the Assembly Of God Church. The 3rd generation Watchtower Society in Vineland N.J. were also practicing a kind of Duo Worship. Praying to God...believing in Christ...the son of God and king of kings...then in the evening wearing robes and masks ...Pounding on drums ..chanting ...which derived from a Luciferian concept.
Putting a child with power into a pit of dead snakes to channel a demon through them. Bringing children to the underground tunnels and making them write with a feathered pen as they chanted. As a force of Automatic Writing. They were more interested in Demonology or Judeo-Christian concepts. Sacrificing a human as a cause to gain power. Much of it in the Bog Burials in northern Europe or James G. Frazier The Golden Bough. When attending the church service or a picnic we'd be holding hands with these people and running through the fields. They were wealthy and kind of mysterious. At times scary. Possibly programmed.
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 20:42
^ yes indeed! The scary thing about organizations like the Temple of Set is that it has direct connections to the U.S. government and military. The organization was established by Michael Aquino, a military officer. After investigating all this stuff for many years ago, it's really hard to distinguish between allegorical legends and symbolism and authentic tales of human sacrifice however enough Satanic ritual abuse survivors have come out to tell their tales and they all share a common thread. It's definitely real. The tactics of MK Ultra mind control that were invented by the CIA and other intelligence units definitely are a part of the overall equation. It seems that even much of the music we love was infused with subliminal programming techniques however i think if a person has a firm grip on morality through whatever means s/he found it, then even silly Satanic music is harmless.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 02 2024 at 22:27
Let us not forget the musicologist's "Devil's Chord"
What is the "tritone" and how does it relate to the music of King Crimson?
The tritone, as it relates to music theory, is the interval of three whole tones. It can also be thought of as an augmented 4th or a diminished 5th.
An excerpt from McGill University Web site:
"The tritone was used in Gregorian chant, but from at least the tenth century it was considered dissonant and labeled as the "diabolus in musica". In the sixteenth century, composers started to use the tritone as part of the dominant seventh chord to strengthen the authentic cadence, and also to achieve tonal ambiguity. In early nineteenth century opera, the tritone was often used to portray the ominous or evil - this use continues in theatre music today."
Now, perhaps, one can see how this dissonant sound is related to the music of King Crimson. Early KC often played 'Mars'(the Holst composition), which itself is a well-known classical use of the tritone. 'The Devil's Triangle' (from the 'Wake of Poseidon' album) is a further evolution of this idea. The tritone continues to be heard today in the music of King Crimson as well as the ProjeKcts.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 11:16
My knowledge of Satanists is very limited, I just don't think of the whole notion of Satan as a splendid example of good ethics.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 11:19
David_D wrote:
My knowledge of Satanists is very limited, I just don't think of the whole notion of Satan as a splendid example of good ethics.
As an atheist, neither is God. Neither is real.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 11:37
^As an atheist, songs about Satan is just entertainment really. Not much different from watching a horror movie. Both can be done in clever and stupid ways of course. Hades, Thor, God, Satan etc... they can all inspire people to make great art. That's what I care about, and not examples of good ethics.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 11:56
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
The witch who called herself Lilith Sinclair was a priestess of the Church Of Satan. She claimed that members of her group were harassed after the Black Magic sacrifice of Mike Newell at Menantico.
She revolted against the Church Of Satan before forming the Temple Of Set.
Sinclair left LaVey's CoS? That's funny. She probably got tired of him trying to bum money off her. Word is the dude was living off handouts at the time of his death.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 12:14
I am also atheist and in a local group with like-minded folks. Through that, i have a few friends and acquaintances who are members of The Satanic Temple, which is basically an atheist organization. They are pretty much an activist organization promoting equity, reproductive rights, and freedom from religion.
If a local church is given permission to display in government venues, they will seek equal treatment to display their 'satanic' materials. If a public school has an after school activity sponsored by church, they will work to organize an After-school Satan Club. They promote religious "rituals" to make abortion medication available for all women.
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 12:30
mathman0806 wrote:
If a public school has an after school activity sponsored by church, they will work to organize an After-school Satan Club.
* Come on down, kids! Let's draw a pentagram using colored chalk!
* Today, we'll show you how to sacrifice a virgin with a Bratz doll (what, you thought we'd kill one of you for real!?).
Yes that is true. Lilith Sinclair did not start the Temple Of Set. However she was interrogated by Charles Pangburn and detectives in June 1971 after the Black Magic sacrifice of Mike Newell. Somewhere Pangburn had information or an idea that a large group of people that was a group of her own were behind the killing.
Pangburn had confiscated evidence that he refused to divulge. Every newspaper reported that . Dating back to 1970 many people heard the cult or witnessed them at Menantico Ponds. Dressed in robes and wearing masks. Chanting and pounding on drums. Due to the improbable acoustics of the Menantico area...it was impossible to tell which direction the sound came from. A lot of people fled...running through the Pine Barrens to get home. Some people who witnessed the cult claimed they were adults and that only a few teenagers were involved.
This was not a secret. All you had to do was basically go camping there. The mistake a lot of people made. In high school I remember kids being scared out of their minds. There weren't telling stories that didn't match. They all had the same story to tell. There was no sensationalism just fear and no one ever desired to return to Menantico. After the sacrifice many of us had unanswered questions about that particular group of people. People had been chased by this group...yet they managed to keep it out of the newspapers.
A Christian community moved to Vineland shortly after and converted between 70 to 80 devil worshippers to Christianity. They gave their testimony in Landis Park. Apparently they did not know Mike Newell or the Satan Worshippers Sect that he supposedly belonged to. They had all been part of what people called back then...a Satan Cult...which in those times ( 1970) differed from the Church Of Satan. Supposedly the Church Of Satan was not about your spirit or Judeo-Christian concepts..but this group was. As I had stated before...their ritual was directly connected to Christian/Satanism in the belief that their sacrifice would engender the protection/aid of Christian demons. The references were to Lucifer or Satan. Their reference was a Judeo-Christian concept to be found in the writings of medieval theologians where demons had hierarchies and legions...
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 18:23
Grumpyprogfan wrote:
David_D wrote:
My knowledge of Satanists is very limited, I just don't think of the whole notion of Satan as a splendid example of good ethics.
As an atheist, neither is God. Neither is real.
As an atheist, I see some very good ethics in the Christian notion of God and his son, Jesus.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 19:47
I am classically trained as a musician since age 7 and as a child I was subjected to a occultism environment as such that there were strange people in my life claiming to be witches who tried to control me.
Through these strange experiences I have recorded instrumentals that were obviously inspired by that environment. At age 10 I experimented with Automatic Writing. Several people that I knewvin my youth belonged to a cult. They displayed multiple personalities. When they revealed characteristics of a sadistic bravado it was easy to see that their entire personality changed.
By joining a cult they felt accepted and depending on the kind of cult it was they could act out their fantasies. Certain individuals that I crossed paths with were not a far cry from being criminally insane. I wasn't personally thrilled about being around people like that and I insisted on disappearing into the corporate side to the music business where I was protected by bodyguards, road crew, managers and goons. So I pissed off a bunch of occultists in the end. Who do they think they are?
A strange place in my life was The Sandcastle. Ironically I ran across the place while traveling in the music business...where I was working under contract half the time and stepping up to play more important venues. Frank Woolworth supposedly had the mansion built. Rumor has it that Barbara Hutton was an occultist and used to visit the Sandcastle periodically so that she could spend time in the Spirit Room attempting to raise the dead. Supposedly she was interested in the spirit world.
When I visited the Sand Castle there was a list of dark characters working there . They hired bands every week and I used to think that the staff dressed in black cloaks was merely a gimmick. As it turns out it wasn't. They were dark people with wealth and they got involved in hiring bands not unlike a Hollywood movie. People would often brush it off by saying they were harmless eccentrics with money running a business. More like ideal candidates for psychiatric treatment 😃
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 19:49
The real occult is the cult of the Rickenbacker bass. ;)
------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 20:29
Hrychu wrote:
The real occult is the cult of the Rickenbacker bass. ;)
😃 😀 😄
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 20:36
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
The real occult is the cult of the Rickenbacker bass. ;)
😃 😀 😄
I resemble that remark!
------------- I am not a Robot, I'm a FREE MAN!!
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 20:52
cstack3 wrote:
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
The real occult is the cult of the Rickenbacker bass. ;)
😃 😀 😄
I resemble that remark!
Interesting Pic! Incredible bass!
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 03 2024 at 20:58
Think about it. The company is delivering an inferior product every new production run and continues to charge ridiculous money for it. Plus they're crazy about sending cease & desist letters to anyone who even partially replicates their "magic formula".
The Rickenbacker cultists are deranged delusional quasi-religious people, who over the years have written entire Bible-like mythologies about how undeniably perfect the Rickenbacker bass is, and about its falsely attributed supernatural qualities. The special wood, the special scale length, the rеtаrded looking horseshoe pickup cover and how all this fairy dust snake oil somehow make those overpriced and overglorified Rickenbackers better than affordable Chinese/Indonesian/Korean bass guitars. Those that actually deliver what you pay for without charging extra for an "iconic look".
Because that bass guitar has been advertised (paid or unpaid) by prog gurus, it has become associated with a particular sorta sound. Rickenbacker cultists don't really see that a lot of the sound heard on "Rickenbacker albums" comes from the playing style, amp settings, EQ, compression and so on. They're blinded by all the blurb, marketing, brand prestige plus they want their purchases to be validated (while the greedy dоuсhebаgs at Rickenbacker inc. are laughing all the way to the bank).
In the end what really "makes" the Rickenbacker bass sound the way it does is simply the right pickup distance and the stereo wiring. Not the wood, not the rеtаrded "special" scale length, not the "correct" trademarked shape.
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 05:01
Saperlipopette! wrote:
^As an atheist, songs about Satan is just entertainment really. Not much different from watching a horror movie. Both can be done in clever and stupid ways of course. Hades, Thor, God, Satan etc... they can all inspire people to make great art. That's what I care about, and not examples of good ethics.
I don't reject listening to the music of Satanists, which by the way can be intended as much more than just entertainment or art. I just think, it's good with a critical (examining) approach to it.
And then, we may have different view of what great art is.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 05:59
David_D wrote:
And then, we may have different view of what great art is.
if you don't believe that most anything can inspire people to make great art - inluding fictional or mythological characters of both "good" and "evil" - yes, we most certainly have differnt views
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 07:13
As it should be very obvious, I was all the time only talking about Satanists.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 07:43
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 08:21
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 04 2024 at 09:10
David_D wrote:
As it should be very obvious, I was all the time only talking about Satanists.
I look at Songs for Satan and satanists as two separate categories. Satan is present all over popular culture and the arts. As a symbol and a metaphor. Satan is in the creative toolbox. Just like angels are.
Posted By: Antoni
Date Posted: July 05 2024 at 02:44
Freshwater "Satan"
Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 05 2024 at 15:29
In a sense I cannot put my belief in Satanism. Regarding the supernatural I believe that it's possible that certain documented accounts can be ruled out as not being true...although their are few oddball cases of supernatural events reported by people who became mentally challenged as a result of it. Thats usually when a documented case reveals facts that cannot be summed up. For example...a case where there is strong evidence based on a unexplainable circumstance.
I basically grew up around this environment where I was tied into communicating with occultists elders at age 12 and already knew that I had to come up with a plan to escape their presence.
I had thought about this particular ritual....this one hundred year ritual...where a person must be in a certain place...preferably by the water..at a specific time of day and a specific time of year...with their 2 closest friends to assist in the ritual by bounding your hands and feet ..walking you into the water and surfboarding you in the face down position ..so you could die violently and return as a captain to rule over 40 leagues of demons.
In a sense I believe that is programming. Programming the ritual into the minds and mentalities of the youth. I thought their dark place was mysterious and interesting to an extent, but believed more in Science and considered anyone believing if they died violently they could return and be put in charge of 40 leagues of demons to have escaped from a funny farm.
I haven't given up totally on believing that certain supernatural events actually took place...but I would never trust my life to some ritual in a book. Anyone can make up whatever they want. We all know that we must read between the lines and immediately understand what needs to be questioned about the article. We must use our own independent thinking. We must be aware that religion can be deceiving. Thinking for yourself is in your best interest and not obviously getting lured into believing that there is a deity to grant you whatever you wish . In a sense the detailed aspects of that approach to life can be misleading and also causing you to take on traits of the delusional. If you don't have physical evidence then you should find the notion to pursue the underworld questionable.
On a personal level ...my first wife comes to mind and I think it should be revealed...so that people can have a clearer understanding for how the study of mental illness escalates in a occultism environment. My first wife was born into witchery by her mother's family...then years after the Menantico cult killing became involved with remaining cult members in the area ...eventually ending up in and out of mental hospitals and eventually killing herself in 2001 ...the day she had been discharged.
It's important to not be glib about the evidence of any supernatural phenomenon being a hundred percent. You shouldn't wager it 50/50 ...you shouldn't make up your mind so quickly. Mike Newell dressed up in a black cloak and would walk around supposedly talking to spirits. He used to say that he wanted to die so that he could be with the demons so that they could be fulfilled. I mean...does that even make any sense? 😃
No disrespect to him because he was an intelligent person lured in by something or found escapism through it because he was being physically abused...but I've had to tell these people to get out of my face . A lot of their attitude derives from a redneck mentality in the social environment. Cowboy hats, pick up trucks, beating up your family when they interrupt the Super Bowl. Being prejudice against other races just because their skin is in fact a different color from yours. No culture..no nothing...and now you're asking me to believe in Satan? Really? Some evil kind of God you made up in your fairy tale land back in the woods mind? Why did you join a cult in the first place? To rape people? Of course.
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 05 2024 at 17:56
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:
Hrychu wrote:
The real occult is the cult of the Rickenbacker bass. ;)
😃 😀 😄
I resemble that remark!
Interesting Pic! Incredible bass!
1973 Rickenbacker 4001 Fire-glo finish. Near mint, I bought it used from a Chicago music store for about $300 in the 1980s. New Ricks cost a few thousand US $.
As you might guess, I am a HUGE fan of Christopher Squire, RIP!! I play this bass with RotoSound strings & plectrum, Squire style. When I warm up, I play Squire's bass parts for CTTE & Relayer. Much fun.
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: July 05 2024 at 18:27
Wow! That's another level of fanboyism 🤣 Rotosound strings aren't even as good anymore. Nowadays, Elixirs and Ernie Ball's are way better. ;P
But I do appreciate the fact it's a vintage bass. Because the modern day Rickenbackers are utter shіt compared to the old ones really. Cheaply made decoys with the Rickenbacker name slapped on them, so that the greedy company can charge premium money for them. The company is merely a shadow of its former glory.
The moment they stopped manufacturing their instruments with lacquered rosewood fretboards, that was when the guitar brand giant really fell from grace! 👎
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 14:43
Looking back, I should have titled this thread, "Prog Songs About Satan." I am personally not "for" Satan.
Church of the Cosmic Skull are not on PA and but they have some progishness in their music. I think they may have been suggested here.
They ask in this song, "Is Satan Real?"
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 15:42
mathman0806 wrote:
Looking back, I should have titled this thread, "Prog Songs About Satan."
Agree, that would be a better, more neutral way to do it.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 16:41
I prefer the title as is, it's more provocative and it amuses me.
I'm not for Satan either, nor am I for many conceptions of God (including Abrahamic ones). I'm not a theist, but some depictions of God I find downright abhorrent whereas others conceptually are not objectionable to me.
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Posted By: Jacob Schoolcraft
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 18:09
Wrote a few pieces that made references to Satan or perhaps people I knew who worshipped Satan. I don't have the recordings and it dates back to the 70s when I played in The Witches..( how creative right?) Another tag for marketing?
The music business began using Sci Fi themes for TV shows and movies. Sometimes you'd hear the Theremin. The Day The Earth Stood Still was my favorite. Dating back to the 50s and 60s writing music for a Sci Fi film or Horror demanded a creative level and being capable of piecing a entire score around the script. It was sort of like writing a concept album and in a way it paired up with individuals who wrote Prog Rock concept albums.
It's truly the same process. If you write a Progressive Rock suite it might have recurring themes or a reprise not unlike a film score does. It's not necessarily always about writing for a character as it is about surrounding the character with soundscapes that are interchangeable parts...the assignation with a mysterious girl who turns out to be a crucified serpent.
Love exists but sex contains the germ of death. Because as it gives life it must also take it. The touch of another body just to reassure themselves that they are not phantoms. Love is a disease which infects each carrier.. Biology is nasty. Long before I existed I ate lunch..like a malignant tumor
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 19:20
I mostly laugh about "Satan" these days.....a ridiculous concept, meant to frighten children into behaving. (I was raised Roman Catholic, so I can certainly speak to this).
My stepson affectionately refers to me as "Satan." I enjoy wearing the label.
As a prog composer, I've dipped into the Satan well. One instrumental I wrote, "The Dark," has a section called "The Gates of Hell." Very dark. Someday I'll have the tapes digitized.
And, let's not forget, you cannot spell "Santa Claus" without "Satan!"
Here, this is very nice. I often play this on guitar to warm up.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 19:52
Apologies if this has been mentioned already. Os Mutantes is included under Psych at PA and is a band from Brazil that I like. Even if this song is not Prog, I think it's lovely and I wish to mention it.
Os Mutantes - Ave Lúcifer
While we have a rule about not posting full lyrics (due to some "industry" pressure). i think an English translation of this sons released 54 years ago should be fine.
The apples involve the naked bodies In this river that flows in gentle veins inside of me Angels and Archangels don't land in this hellish Eden And the arrow of the salvage killed a thousand birds in the air
Quietly, the serpent wrap up in your feet It's Lucifer from the forest trying to embrace me
Come, my love, cause a heaven in a friendly hug Will smile to us, with no one to see us
I promise to open my tender love, like a flower full of honey To intoxicate you, with no one to see us
Bring in black grapes Bring in parties and flowers Bring in bodies and pains Bring in incenses and odours
But bring in Lucifer for me In a tray for me Ave Lúcifer
( I can think of more instrumentals than ones with singing, but I don't count those as songs)
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 06 2024 at 20:00
Warning, not Prog, but since Charles has mentioned warming up on guitar to certain music, here's a Devilish one for a piano warm-up.
György Ligeti: Étude No. 13: L'escalier du diable / The Devil’s Staircase
(My favourite performance of it that I have seen. Might be fun to work it into an ELP composition)
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 01:51
Logan wrote:
Apologies if this has been mentioned already. Os Mutantes is included under Psych at PA and is a band from Brazil that I like. Even if this song is not Prog, I think it's lovely and I wish to mention it.
Os Mutantes - Ave Lúcifer
I posted it. Probably my favorite song about Satan yet I've never actually looked up its lyrics or meaning. Very poetic. Reminds me of Pessoas thoughts or understandig of the devil.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 06:35
Something else, I haven't checked all the posts here, but when talking about stricktly defined Progressive Rock, I've never actually seen any lyrics sympathetic towards Satan, so I guess that this phenomenon can't be particularly widespread.
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Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 06:37
Satan is mostly treated for what (I think) he is, a literary character.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 06:51
Airline pilot Bruce Dickinson's maiden flight with Iron Maiden.
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 07:30
^GrumpyProgFan posted Number of the Beast in the second post of this thread.
It's a good one.
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 08:18
David_D wrote:
Something else, I haven't checked all the posts here, but when talking about stricktly defined Progressive Rock, I've never actually seen any lyrics sympathetic towards Satan, so I guess that this phenomenon can't be particularly widespread.
These guys were.
Logan wrote:
"Come, come, come to the sabbat. Come to the sabbat, Satan's there!"
A favourite song of mine from a band linked to "heavy prog" is Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat.
And then there's Coven.
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: July 07 2024 at 08:45
^ Witch reminds me.....
COVEN A veritable witches brew of spooky psychedelia, led by the spellbinding siren wail of daughter of darkness, Jinx Dawson, who is not only strikingly beautiful, but sounds like un unholy cross between Janis Joplin and Grace Slick. Be prepared for Coven's final album "Jinx" when all hell is let loose in an ungodly bloodlust orgy of heavy metal mayhem that would even have Lemmy of Motorhead reaching for the headache tablets.
1974: Coven - Blood on the Snow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoc_AdWrb2w" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoc_AdWrb2w
2007: Coven - Metal Goth Queen: Out of the Vault - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_9ANeMKyJ0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_9ANeMKyJ0