What albums would you advice a classic rock fan?
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Topic: What albums would you advice a classic rock fan?
Posted By: Gnik Nosmirc
Subject: What albums would you advice a classic rock fan?
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 06:48
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What if you had a classic rock fan who doesn't know prog? What prog albums would you advice him in order to slowly and gently get into it? My pick would be - Deep Purple / Deep Purple in Rock - The Who / Quadrophenia- Pink Floyd / The Wall - Supertramp / Crime Of The Century - Radiohead / Ok Computer - Dire Straits / Love Over Gold - Rush / Rush - Styx / Pieces Of Eight - Queen / Queen II - The Alan Parsons Project / The Turn Of A Friendly Card These are not all "prog" but I think they constitute a good introduction to it. |
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 08:35
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Led Zeppelin : IV Deep Purple : Machine Head Golden Earring: Moontan APP : Tales Kansas : Leftoverture Styx : The Grand Illusion Uriah Heep : Magician's Birthday Kraftwerk : Autobahn Tangerine Dream : Stratosfear 10CC : The original soundtrack Dire Straits : Love over gold Manfred Mann's Earth Band : Nightingales and Bombers Pink Floyd : Wish you were here Barclay James Harvest : Octoberon ... ------------- "You must not talk to idiots, it instructs them" (Michel Audiard) " Je ne parle pas aux idiots , cela les instruit" |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 08:57
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If that person is already a classic rock fan, then I might very well expect that they already know many albums listed. Pretty basic classic rock standards there. Led Zep, The Who, Pink Floyd, Queen and Supertramp are huge names in classic rock -- classic rock 101 (an FM station here and also a first year university course reference). If it's specific fan, I believe in tailoring the recommendations to the individual. Find out what they know and like and then extrapolate from that. That said, I have turned more than one classic rock fan onto King Crimson with Red and others, but I had an idea of their tastes already. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 09:31
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Wippy Bonstack - 22 Steely Dan - Aja Dream Theater - Images and Words Kansas - Leftoverture Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All Pink Floyd - Animals Mike Keneally - Sluggo! Gentle Giant - The Missing Piece The Aristocrats - Culture Clash |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 09:45
Exactly. I would find it hard to believe that a "classic rock fan" would be unaware of Yes, Tull or Floyd -- all staples of classic rock stations. Perhaps they have lived under a rock, and are not aware of the term "prog rock" when they listen to Traffic's "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys", or Tull's "Aqualung" or basic Yes like "Roundabout". Perhaps they are unaware of early Genesis (Peter Gabriel was in Genesis? Next you're going to tell me Paul McCartney was in The Beatles). Foxtrot might be an interesting segue. Or just blow their mind completely with King Crimson's "21st Century Schizoid Man". ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Logan wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 10:48
They might well not associate it with Prog and a lot of that classic rock by so-called Prog bands is not what I would call quintessential Prog music. Prog is such a nebulous label and is so amorphous. But if they really are "fans" of classic rock, they are liable to know stuff by those bands. Maybe not full albums, a lot would still use radio or something like it to get to know stuff sand would be more song oriented When I first heard "Aqualung" and "Roundabout" (both of which are only of my first mix tapes) I had not associated them with Prog, but then I was not yet really familiar with the Prog term. And even when I got to know what Prog was better I did not think of Pink Floyd as Prog, nor would I have thought of Genesis as Prog because I knew it from the 80's hits. I would sooner create a collection of tracks, and try to base it what you specifically know they like, than recommend albums to a lot of listeners. Of course a lot of bands who made Prog albums also made non-Prog tracks or not so Prog tracks. Those less-Prog tracks can be good gateways... Don;t hit them with a one hour The Flower Kings noodle-rama-fest for instance. These are some albums that worked for me in PA before I was familiar with the Prog term, but different people will react differently. Focus - Hamburger Concerto Gryphon - Midnight Mushrumps Camel - The Snow Goose Jethro Tull - Aqualung Pink Floyd - Wish You Were here, Animals and more Alan Parsons Project - I Robot And Tubeway Army - Replicas (okay, not Prog, but I adored it when I was eight) I would have loved King Crimson as a teenager. Khan's Space Shanty is one I turned someone onto in real life. I even got one classic rock woman who barely knew of Prog into Magma via "Theusz Hamtaahk". For various ones who also like more modern music, I would recommend black midi. Generally I would steer clear of things like Neo-Prog. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 10:55
| ^Yes, a playlist may be helpful. But, I'm surprised by songs that resonate with others, songs that you imagine would click but they don't. So, it's impossible to choose for someone else. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 11:35
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^ That's true. Even when I felt like I had a really great handle on what people wanted and I thought I knew their tastes really well, I have been surprised that something did not resonate, and something that I thought might not appeal as much by the same artist or on the same album, as well as by altogether different artists, appealed much more. People are complex and each have their own associative pathways which is a significant when it comes to what resonates. And, just thinking out loud, even if if I know someone loves, say, Cream's "Tales of Brave Ulysses" and I know that Milk's "Stories of Courageous Odysseus" is very similar they might see/hear Milk's as merely an inferior sound-alike. That you will like B because it's similar to A does not necessarily follow. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: Dapper~Blueberries
Date Posted: April 30 2024 at 10:40
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I'd say: Dark Side - Pink Floyd In The Court - King Crimson Fragile - Yes Farewell To Kings - Rush The Grand Illusion - Styx Leftoverture - Kansas Duke - Genesis Aqualung - Jethro Tull The Electric Prunes - The Electric Prunes ------------- D~B |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 30 2024 at 23:33
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It's extremely unlikely that a classic rock fan would not know prog. I met someone at college (and eventually roomed with him) and he was a huge AC/DC fan but was well aware of bands like Rush and Genesis. They held little or no interest to him but he did like certain proggy things like for instance I had a copy of Yes - Tormato at the time and he loved playing the track Release, Release. It was quite ridiculous the amount of times I came back in the room and he was playing that thing and he was getting his rocks off! However there was little chance i could get him into early Yes. I never stayed in contact so god knows whether his tastes have changed but I always think of him when AC/DC are ever on the radio! |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 09:46
This is an odd choice. If I wanted to show someone Rush with a slice of prog, but not overwhelm them I would probably pick Permanent Waves or maybe even Fly By Night. ------------- We all dwell in an amber subdomain, amber subdomain, amber subdomain. My face IS a maserati |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 10:15
Rush's Hemispheres worked for me, and that was long before I was seriously into Progressive Rock. I became obsessed with that album as a teen, as well as Yes' Fragile which I discovered at about the same time. Mileage will vary depending on the individual. Here in Canada, classic rock fans who listen to classic rock radio would be familiar with lots of Rush anyway as they have quite a few songs that are in steady rotation (including the song "Fly By Night"). While recognising that it depends on the classic rock fan, I would like to hit various of them with some Magma; maybe Üdü Ẁüdü. It may help as a Magma conversation starter if you bring your friend to a wet tee-shirt contest where you had convinced or bribed one of the contestants to wear a Magma tee. Some moisture really enhances the Magma logo, imo. ------------- "Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967). |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 10:55
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Genesis - A Trick of the Tail " - Duke Kansas - Point of Know Return Yes - 90125 " - Fragile Asia - Same Styx - The Grand Illusion Rush - Moving Pictures Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Porcupine Tree- In Absentia Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Alan Parsons Project - Irobot King Crimson - Discipline The Moody Blues - Long Distance Voyager Jethro Tull - Aqualung
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Posted By: Moyan
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 11:52
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The Beatles "Abbey Road" Elton John "Empty Sky" The Kinks "Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire)" Audience "The House on the Hill" The Who "Quadrophenia" David Bowie "Alladin Sane" Cockney Rebel "The Human Menagerie" 10cc "The Original Soundtrack" Be Bop Deluxe "Modern Music" Anthony Moore "Out"
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 12:15
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CAN~Tago Mago........Push them into the deep end of the pool with no life vest. -------------   
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 14:02
No no no, give then Island's Pictures ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 01 2024 at 14:22
 And Gong's Angel's Egg.
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Posted By: Moyan
Date Posted: May 02 2024 at 01:11
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Posted By: Frets N Worries
Date Posted: May 02 2024 at 11:11
I must be crazy, but I fell in love with Hammill/VDGG from the first listen. ------------- The Wheel of Time Turns, and Ages come and pass. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the shadow. Let the Dragon ride again on the winds of time... |
Posted By: Moyan
Date Posted: May 02 2024 at 20:35
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 02 2024 at 22:37
Yes, if you want them to never listen again. Hey, I like VDGG/PH but let's face it. They aren't exactly newbie friendly. You may as well suggest Magma and Gentle Giant.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: May 02 2024 at 23:39
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Porcupine Tree worked on this huge Rush fan that used to frequent my store. I gave him a cd of some of my favourite PT songs and this was around 2007 when Lifeson guested on Fear Of A Blank Planet which gave them some cred with this guy. After a couple of spins he loved the music. A Floyd connection too with some of those earlier PT tracks, another connection to Classic rock. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |